Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.

Slobodan said:
Dad probably has children he monitors. The only thing you should be monitoring are heat flashes.
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This is my favorite. Outright misogyny (so typically of men losing internet arguments), but in this case with the ironic twist that y'all are supposedly in this argument to defend women.

This leads me to suggest something which I have long suspected, particularly since I've repeatedly laid out the case for why the FTM problem might be bigger than than the MTF problem but y'all are obsessively focused on the MTFs and indeed, with some issues like bathrooms, seem to miss the fact that this is a reciprocal problem For some of you, it's not really about fairness (that canard has been kicked to death), or safety (again, been shown y'all don't care about safety in other contexts), or even really moral condemnation or fear of the unknown. Y'all, fundamentally, deep down, are horrified by the idea of your units being cut offs, and it stirs something deeply medieval and Freudian inside of you. Similar to how the gay lads led you to open hostility (before it was socially unacceptable) because it questioned your own masculinity. There is nothing so fragile as the male ego. Countdown to explosion....5....4.....3.....2.....1
 
Grace T. said:
This is my favorite. Outright misogyny (so typically of men losing internet arguments), but in this case with the ironic twist that y'all are supposedly in this argument to defend women.

This leads me to suggest something which I have long suspected, particularly since I've repeatedly laid out the case for why the FTM problem might be bigger than than the MTF problem but y'all are obsessively focused on the MTFs and indeed, with some issues like bathrooms, seem to miss the fact that this is a reciprocal problem For some of you, it's not really about fairness (that canard has been kicked to death), or safety (again, been shown y'all don't care about safety in other contexts), or even really moral condemnation or fear of the unknown. Y'all, fundamentally, deep down, are horrified by the idea of your units being cut offs, and it stirs something deeply medieval and Freudian inside of you. Similar to how the gay lads led you to open hostility (before it was socially unacceptable) because it questioned your own masculinity. There is nothing so fragile as the male ego. Countdown to explosion....5....4.....3.....2.....1
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How many daughters do you have?
 
Drew & Dylan. IT is all coming out for the Big Mic Show:eek: The Great Awakening will not be for everyone:cool: BTW, Dylan has way nicer legs than Drew, just saying. They really have tricked us all why we were all working like slaves to pay them bills.


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Kicker4Life said:
How many daughters do you have?
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I have a niece that plays (ecnl) and I played myself. I was her coach til she moved up north. I’m one of the people that would have been directly affected by this policy

and Btw I by no means mean to imply that your stump is the the primary motivation by everyone here. I appreciate and admire the concern some folks have for their dds. But when one uses misogyny in the name of defense of women, as Sotl has, it is clear there is something at work way beyond just defending your dd.
 
Grace T. said:
I have a niece that plays (ecnl) and I played myself. I was her coach til she moved up north. I’m one of the people that would have been directly affected by this policy

and Btw I by no means mean to imply that your stump is the the primary motivation by everyone here. I appreciate and admire the concern some folks have for their dds. But when one uses misogyny in the name of defense of women, as Sotl has, it is clear there is something at work way beyond just defending your dd.
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Grace, you're no Centrist and never have been. Your either lying to yourself or your getting exposed. Very good writer by the way, I give you lot's of credit for acting like a centrist. No middle with you sister. I like honesty. I don't care what anyone likes to do for kinks, just as long as there not playing with the kids or trying to manipulate them into cutting off their body parts because they don't like who they are. Keep it at home is my advice. Mary had a little lamb....

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Kicker4Life said:
How many daughters do you have?
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Ps if you are concerned about your dd, I’d be far more concerned about what’s happen to the ftm and nonbinaries right now. 1/20 chance it could be your dd if she’s college educated. And before you say it can never happen to us….we’ll talk to my relative.
 
Grace T. said:
This is my favorite. Outright misogyny (so typically of men losing internet arguments), but in this case with the ironic twist that y'all are supposedly in this argument to defend women.

This leads me to suggest something which I have long suspected, particularly since I've repeatedly laid out the case for why the FTM problem might be bigger than than the MTF problem but y'all are obsessively focused on the MTFs and indeed, with some issues like bathrooms, seem to miss the fact that this is a reciprocal problem For some of you, it's not really about fairness (that canard has been kicked to death), or safety (again, been shown y'all don't care about safety in other contexts), or even really moral condemnation or fear of the unknown. Y'all, fundamentally, deep down, are horrified by the idea of your units being cut offs, and it stirs something deeply medieval and Freudian inside of you. Similar to how the gay lads led you to open hostility (before it was socially unacceptable) because it questioned your own masculinity. There is nothing so fragile as the male ego. Countdown to explosion....5....4.....3.....2.....1
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Should we put urinals in the girl's bathrooms now? How about the stainless pee troughs at stadiums? I guess it's not enough to force the entire world to build more bathrooms for those afraid to use their appropriately gendered toilets that have worked for centuries.

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Slobodan said:
Should we put urinals in the girl's bathrooms now? How about the stainless pee troughs at stadiums? I guess it's not enough to force the entire world to build more bathrooms for those afraid to use their appropriately gendered toilets that have worked for centuries.

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No that’s stupid. The bathroom rule is easy since you have people moving on both directions: you switch when you physically surgically switch (and some grace period therein). That rule makes sense if you are worried about your dd seeing a tallywacker because otherwise they’ll eventually see one on a ftm with a full beard in the ladies room. That said if you really care about your dds you’d be more concerned about the f toilet situations in stadiums because the lines are an abomination. And for families sake, there really should be more unisex family toilets available in public.
 
crush said:
Good morning little Cain. Of course Cain the snake would laugh, "ha ha." The Vermont school did not cheat Cain, that is a lie. They stood up to the cheating school that allowed a snake to play against the girls. The other school cheated (look how you try and twist the truth) because they used a male to beat up on the females, that is the Truth. You're going to get what you deserve very soon. Snakes like you used to hide in the grass but not today. IT has to reveal ITs self Full Monty for all to witness, just like you have done. You worship the "One Eye" snake monster and you and others like you are non-gender. It's in your bloodline and nothing you can do about it, except to be honest like you and your other avatars have done. There is place all prepared for you and the others to do this together, forever.
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They knew the rules and failed to comply with them. In so doing, they also deprived others the opportunity to compete in accordance with those rules, all so they could grandstand. Cheaters, pure and simple. And terrible basketball players also.
 
dad4 said:
The suspension was essentially punishment for speech. MVCS made Vermont look bad in the national press, so the school gets punished for it.

The timing of the suspension makes this clear. The original forfeit? No problem. We agree to disagree. Fox picks up the story? Suspension.
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No, it was punishment for refusing to comply with the rules and depriving others who aren’t cheaters of opportunities in they playoffs. They took a spot from another team for no purpose other than to grandstand.
 
Grace T. said:
I have a niece that plays (ecnl) and I played myself. I was her coach til she moved up north. I’m one of the people that would have been directly affected by this policy

and Btw I by no means mean to imply that your stump is the the primary motivation by everyone here. I appreciate and admire the concern some folks have for their dds. But when one uses misogyny in the name of defense of women, as Sotl has, it is clear there is something at work way beyond just defending your dd.
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mi·sog·y·nis·tic (/məˌsäjəˈnistik/)
adjective
  1. strongly prejudiced against women.
I'd say it's misogynistic to allow males to play against females in a female league. Even YOU can't say a male, transitioning to a female, is now a female. You'll call him "a female", because that's the WOKE thing to do, but you know he'll never be a female.
 
SurFutbol said:
They knew the rules and failed to comply with them. In so doing, they also deprived others the opportunity to compete in accordance with those rules, all so they could grandstand. Cheaters, pure and simple. And terrible basketball players also.
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No, they skipped the game. That's not cheating dumb dumb. Look how you lie. Go back and use your brain to come up with another pure and simple word. Wow, I thought you were smart but not now.
 
Grace T. said:
Ps if you are concerned about your dd, I’d be far more concerned about what’s happen to the ftm and nonbinaries right now. 1/20 chance it could be your dd if she’s college educated. And before you say it can never happen to us….we’ll talk to my relative.
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Nonbinaries want attention like the others. We used to call them "asexual". They won't get a special day, flag and t-shirt using archaic terminology, though. Not woke enough. It's no wonder about the 1/20 number. God forbid someone NOT question your gender and allow doctors to fill in that box on your birth certificate. Could be a penis, could be a vagina, could be a mirage.
 
Slobodan said:
mi·sog·y·nis·tic (/məˌsäjəˈnistik/)
adjective
  1. strongly prejudiced against women.
I'd say it's misogynistic to allow males to play against females in a female league. Even YOU can't say a male, transitioning to a female, is now a female. You'll call him "a female", because that's the WOKE thing to do, but you know he'll never be a female.
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Here's my test for y'all. If you really say you are in this for your DD, how would your DD judge how you defended her and the words you chose?
 
Grace T. said:
Here's my test for y'all. If you really say you are in this for your DD, how would your DD judge how you defended her and the words you chose?
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We don't judge in our family. To each his or her own and I honor that. Never forced the jab on my sweet girl or my wonderful son. She is free to choose her life, gender, boys, girls or both. It's her life. She is tough as nails masculine on the inside and feminine on the outside. She also has feminine on the inside and masculine on the outside. It's a mixed back of hormones that she and she alone will figure out. Were poler opposites and we both trip out on that fact. I never push my faith on her either. I just live it and she can be whatever she wants to be. My son as well. I can say this Grace. Your writing lately is not that of a lady, let me just say.
 
crush said:
We don't judge in our family. To each his or her own and I honor that. Never forced the jab on my sweet girl or my wonderful son. She is free to choose her life, gender, boys, girls or both. It's her life. She is tough as nails masculine on the inside and feminine on the outside. She also has feminine on the inside and masculine on the outside. It's a mixed back of hormones that she and she alone will figure out. Were poler opposites and we both trip out on that fact. I never push my faith on her either. I just live it and she can be whatever she wants to be. My son as well. I can say this Grace. Your writing lately is not that of a lady, let me just say.
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You don't find any irony on someone imposing their views of femininity on someone else?
You don't care if your daughter would be ashamed of you (not saying she would or wouldn't but I query whether you would care)?
You don't aspire to be looked up to by your children, if only as a matter of the principles you hold?
You don't aspire to look up to your children, and have them live honorably?
 
Grace T. said:
No that’s stupid. The bathroom rule is easy since you have people moving on both directions: you switch when you physically surgically switch (and some grace period therein). That rule makes sense if you are worried about your dd seeing a tallywacker because otherwise they’ll eventually see one on a ftm with a full beard in the ladies room. That said if you really care about your dds you’d be more concerned about the f toilet situations in stadiums because the lines are an abomination. And for families sake, there really should be more unisex family toilets available in public.
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But I solved your problem with lines in the women's restrooms. Troughs. I mean, if a real female is expected to tolerate a man's bearded pocket rocket, in the ladies room, certainly they'd entertain a bulk pissing solution rather than those pesky, one-at-a-time, private stalls. No?

You're all over the map. What kind of a "grace" period are you thinking? Enough for the balls to reduce swelling or do those go into the meat grinder, too? Does everything just shrivel up and die after some medication? I'm a bit of a novice to all this self mutilation stuff. You know, full disclosure.

... or is your solution just one giant locker room with open showers and toilets because, after all, gender is "fluid"?
 
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