I’ll put the hyperbole aside and give all of you a reminder about why I am doing this.
There are a few people here who absolutely, positively refuse to treat trans children with even the slightest amount of dignity and respect. I’m not talking about merely disagreeing with ECNL down to AYSO allowing trans girls to play soccer. I’m talking about people who mock gender pronouns, refer to certain lesbian women and men, who call children “trannies” and worse, and accuse them of engaging in lewd behavior in bathrooms. These are people who have zero empathy for trans children who are actual people and the sons and daughters of actual parents. If they can’t treat children with dignity and respect, I won’t treat theirs with dignity and respect either. Slobodan in particular can have a turn feeling how trans children and their parents feel when they hear the garbage that people like him spew.
I also think it’s important for people like him to understand in no uncertain terms that people who support the LGBT community no longer fear the bullying anti-trans schtick that he grew up dumping on everyone around him. Not only do we no longer fear it, but we also don’t stay quiet or go away quietly in response to your elementary school playground bullying. You wanted bullying, you got it.
I know Grace disagrees with me and would prefer the old way of trying to politely convince people to think differently. I admire her doggedness in putting up with the constant bullying of her that drove off others in disgust, but
Compromise has been tried on this thread.
It doesn’t work. If anyone proposes a system which actually preserves the top tier of women’s sports for women, they get called transphobe. It doesn’t matter what kind of athletic system for trans kids is suggested. If you don’t support an XY athlete receiving top honors in the women’s division, then you must be a bigot.
The pattern kills any desire to find a middle ground. Eventually, anyone who cares about both sets of kids leaves.
So mocking gender pronouns and calling lesbians men constitutes “middle ground”? That is what makes you a bigot, not the mere fact that you oppose trans participation in sports. So too does your absolute refusal to consider the reasons why transgender children believe it is important to allow them to play consistent with their gender identity to be legitimate positions to weigh into the decision, and despite the fact that virtually every private youth league from ECNL down to AYSO agrees with them, as does CIF.
You have made it very clear that trans girls and women should not be allowed to play competitive sports with their gender identity at any age group, in any sport, and under any circumstances. That is absolutist, no matter how much you try to retroactively label yourself as someone willing to compromise. And no, your theory that trans people can do whatever they want so long as it isn’t anything you don’t want them to do is not compromise.
Get used to the compromise that already exists, and had existed for decades. It is virtually impossible for trans women to participate at the pro level. It is very difficult at the NCAA level, and when something shows the requirements are out of whack, they are thoughtfully reconsidered. And at the youth level, you can vote for or against trans hate in your state if winning a kiddie trophy is that important to you. But even if you vote for hate, you still can’t stop a private company from deciding to allow trans kids from participating, no matter how much you hate the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
