Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.

Chelsea dad g09 said:
You're correct it was designed to be a lightweight, higher capacity weapon to the m1 garand, difference is the semi auto. Most hunting weapons are semi auto, see the ruger mini 14. Same weapon as an ar, just looks like a "hunting rifle" so nobody says a word, but they would want to ban the hi point 380 carbine, makes zero sense.
The main problem I see is that handguns are far and away the leading cause of gun violence in this country and everyone is focused on the "assault rifle". I said earlier if anyone wants to start with a ban, they shouldn't be taken seriously because A. They're worried about the 1% instead of the 99% B. It does nothing to address the root cause of these shootings and C. Like our friend sur has shown us, it doesnt stop there but will soon include all guns.
The DOJ has already said they dont know if the assault weapon worked or didnt so anyone spouting that it did is gravely mistaken.
I personally believe everyone has a right to defend themselves and their family and at this point there are so many "assault weapons" it has to be considered that citizens should be able to defend themselves against them, odd as that sounds. I have and have owned several ar's and it's not my go to for self defense in fact it just sits in the safe, but who am I to tell anyone what they can and cannot do for their family.
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In my mind, the odds of my house being stormed by AR15 carrying thugs are about the same as me dying from Covid. Maybe if I lived in Detroit, Chicago or Baltimore I might think differently. I'm not aware that an AR-15 in the hands of a civilian has ever stopped a mass shooting with an AR-15.

I don't know why some gun owners are so quick to defend the AR-15. Loss of the AR wouldn't impact anyone's ability to protect themselves, hunt or participate in sport shooting. To me it's an unnecessary weapon.

I think both sides put way too much value in the AR-15, many on the right put it on the pedestal of 2nd amendment rights and the left as THE reason for mass shootings and a ban as a cure-all.

Not trying to change your mind, just splaining my perspective,
 
crush said:
Where is Waldo? Dad4? Husker Du? Troll my ass......
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Nothing more to say. The topic is settled. Most people think XY athletes should compete against other XY athletes. This is why SF keeps changing the topic to AR15s. He knows he lost.

Eventually, the sports bodies will fix the rules. It's already happening in individual events.

Until then, some people will politely pretend that Geraldine and Josephine are girls. Others won't.
 
watfly said:
In my mind, the odds of my house being stormed by AR15 carrying thugs are about the same as me dying from Covid. Maybe if I lived in Detroit, Chicago or Baltimore I might think differently. I'm not aware that an AR-15 in the hands of a civilian has ever stopped a mass shooting with an AR-15.

I don't know why some gun owners are so quick to defend the AR-15. Loss of the AR wouldn't impact anyone's ability to protect themselves, hunt or participate in sport shooting. To me it's an unnecessary weapon.

I think both sides put way too much value in the AR-15, many on the right put it on the pedestal of 2nd amendment rights and the left as THE reason for mass shootings and a ban as a cure-all.

Not trying to change your mind, just splaining my perspective,
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I get you and I agree, the odds of getting broken into while you're home are ridiculously low. I dont even shoot my ar, it just collects dust.

I'm not sure if people are defending the ar specifically or the can of worms it opens if it does get banned. Do you stop at the ar platform or all semi auto long guns? Does that include pistol calibers? How do you account for ones in current circulation?

I personally think education, more range time, actual enforcement of current laws, a cultural shift in thinking from the tactical we have now (im actually all for training but ive seen people go overboard) to get people learning that guns are tools not to be fooled with. Hell I even think mag round limits would help more than an outright ban. The long term change in thinking helped australia more than anything as now they have more guns in the hands of more responsible gun owners.

The ar has definitely polarized things. That I dont have any idea how to fix except shake my head at the people we elect on both sides.
 
Chelsea dad g09 said:
I get you and I agree, the odds of getting broken into while you're home are ridiculously low. I dont even shoot my ar, it just collects dust.

I'm not sure if people are defending the ar specifically or the can of worms it opens if it does get banned. Do you stop at the ar platform or all semi auto long guns? Does that include pistol calibers? How do you account for ones in current circulation?

I personally think education, more range time, actual enforcement of current laws, a cultural shift in thinking from the tactical we have now (im actually all for training but ive seen people go overboard) to get people learning that guns are tools not to be fooled with. Hell I even think mag round limits would help more than an outright ban. The long term change in thinking helped australia more than anything as now they have more guns in the hands of more responsible gun owners.

The ar has definitely polarized things. That I dont have any idea how to fix except shake my head at the people we elect on both sides.
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I agree with all your points with the exception "of the can of worms". The previous AR ban didn't result in further loss of SA, or other guns. I think the claim by some (not saying you) that an AR ban is just the beginning of the govt coming for your guns is fear mongering. I also don't put much weight in the claim that gun laws only impact responsible gun owners, that's true for any law. Those most impacted by laws are the law biding.

My problem with new gun laws, like you mention, is we're doing a horrible job of enforcing the ones we already have. It gets even worse when certain jurisdictions employ equity considerations in the application of the law. Let's work on the laws we have, instead of layering on additional laws that won't be enforced.
 
watfly said:
I agree with all your points with the exception "of the can of worms". The previous AR ban didn't result in further loss of SA, or other guns. I think the claim by some (not saying you) that an AR ban is just the beginning of the govt coming for your guns is fear mongering. I also don't put much weight in the claim that gun laws only impact responsible gun owners, that's true for any law. Those most impacted by laws are the law biding.

My problem with new gun laws, like you mention, is we're doing a horrible job of enforcing the ones we already have. It gets even worse when certain jurisdictions employ equity considerations in the application of the law. Let's work on the laws we have, instead of layering on additional laws that won't be enforced.
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I think it definitely has a fear mongering aspect to it, but it may be justified. Cali is trying to do it with sb452, and were already chipping away with their roster before it got hit by the courts. I think its more probing to see where it gets them, but it's there. Doubt it will ever hold up legally though. But I'll be in Utah after my daughter graduates so I only have a few more years here anyways.

Couldn't agree more with everything else you wrote.
 
watfly said:
Probably more ironic is the fact that the FIS wouldn't let her compete against men despite her requests to do so.
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So we can't have biological females beating out biological males..because that would make the guys look bad..but it's cool if biological males beat out biological females.
Makes sense.
 
SurFutbol said:
Are you feeling good about your contribution to the decision by the two trans girls not to participate at the CIF track finals due to all of the online harassment and death threats they received?
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You mean the two boys that decided not to compete in the girls division? Yup. I'm happy as a pig in $#!T.
Now the playing field for all the girls is level.

I had nothing to do with their decisions. Hopefully they're both starting to see the light that people are tired of this BS.
 
Since @SurFutbol has taken us on a detour with his Anti-2A rant..here's my .02

1. The AR-15 is **NOT** an assault rifle. Assault rifles are capable of firing full-auto. the AR-15 is not.
2. They have proven useful in hunting feral hogs. ( Just an example )
3. Yes they are fun to shoot. They are like Legos..there's a thousand ways to build one. Again..it's a semi-auto sporting rifle. Despite what anyone might think or wish, you can't change that. (We are talking about guns..not trans people..stay on topic people. :rolleyes: )
4. I don't agree with magazine bans. There have been cases where the GG was able to fend off multiple BGs partly due to the fact that the GG had "standard capacity" mags. **Bad guys don't comply with ANY gun laws.** So why should I be limited to 10rds in my HD gun..a G22 when there are 15rd mags available? Why shouldn't I be afforded the extra ammunition against the BG trying to enter my house? Because the idiot leaders in CA think it makes a difference in limiting magazines to 10rds? Do you think Gov Newsom's security detail is limited to handguns with 10rd mags?!
5. Gun Roster. The roster here in CA is beyond ridiculous. To say it's not an attempt to further restrict the rights of law-abiding citizens is an understatement. Explain to me why I can own a Gen3 G19 but I can't buy a Gen4 or Gen5 unless I'm law enforcement. The difference between them is not something that's going to prevent ANY crime of any sort. It's about control and disarmament.
6. Background check for ammo...and I have to pay a fee every time I go to buy some ammo? Bad guys are lucky that they don't have to deal with any of that. Oh that's right..that's because they are bad guys..they don't follow the laws.

It was funny during the pandemic to see all these idiot Democrats trying to buy guns and ammo. "I have to wait 10 days for my gun?!" or "I have to do a background check just to buy ammo?!" Yes you idiot..because these are the laws you voted for by electing the people that you picked to run our state.
Do you feel safer now?!

And I will admit there needs to be some sort of universal background checks. Certain people should not be allowed to own firearms for various reasons.
I don't care what some Pro-2A people say. First-time buyers/owners should be required to go thru at least a 4hr gun safety class for either long gun or handgun. 8hrs if you're planning on buying both at some point.

I'm also not cool with the fact that in some states you can do a gun purchase in the parking lot of Walmart or any other business for that matter. I think there needs to be some accountability for every firearm in circulation. A face-to-face sale between two strangers with zero oversight is not my idea of good gun control. Same with gun shows in certain states. You can walk right out of there with multiple firearms. I'd be fine with a 3-day wait period / background check. (Flame suit on for some of my 2A brothers/sisters out there. I stand behind my statement.)

We could go all day on the topic of guns but I'm going to leave it at that.
 
Slobodan said:
Yes.
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I have to disagree with you here. Just like you are free to love whomever you want..it shouldn't be any different for gay people. Your significant other could be ugly as hell to me..but you obviously see them differently. Who am I to judge?

Yes I have relatives that are gay..male and female. 2 are very conservative and 1 is very liberal. I don't talk with the liberal one very much because I tire very easily from his whining. The conservative ones will tell you they simple love someone of the same sex. They will also tell you that you are born gay. (Some will disagree..I'm just repeating what they've said.) They will also tell you that there are only TWO genders..and that trans people suffer from mental illness...and that there are many in the gay community that feel the same way about trans people...and all the other alphabet mafia stuff.
 
SurFutbol said:
I love how the republican platform has essentially been reduced to:

1. banning maybe 100 trans children in the US from playing kiddie sports;
2. killing as many children as it takes cuz that’s the price of freedom; and
3. trying to get Prince Harry kicked out of the US for doing dar less cocaine than Matt Gaetz.

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US court to hear challenge over Prince Harry's visa following drug revelations | CNN

Prince Harry’s US immigration records should be unsealed in the light of revelations about drug-taking in his recent book, a conservative think tank will argue in a federal court next week.
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1. Making boys plays against other boys instead of wearing pink cleats and beating girls so they finally feel special.
2. 750,000 annual abortions to be free of responsibility. That's right... adolescent genocide isn't just for AR-15s anymore!
3. Prince Harry did some coke while hunting, EOTL. Do you think he used an assault rifle?
 
SurFutbol said:
Why is that no one minds or cares if the Dodgers hold a Faith/Religious Bigot Day, or a Thin Blue Racist Line Day, but people lose their minds when they have a Pride Day?
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Thin blue racist line? Oh god... please don't tell me you think cops are out hunting minorities. For a learned ambulance chaser, surely you've educated yourself on the actual statistics.

Oh wait...
 
We had a little Husker Du, Dad, Espola and a Surf Futbol participation yesterday. It was great to see you all make some noise yesterday :) Surf Futbol took center stage. He is full of Pride.

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Slobodan said:
Thin blue racist line? Oh god... please don't tell me you think cops are out hunting minorities. For a learned ambulance chaser, surely you've educated yourself on the actual statistics.

Oh wait...
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Don’t tell me you think gay and trans people are hunting children. For an uneducated piece of shit, I’m not surprised that you fail to understand your kids are far more likely to be molested by their religious leader than by a trans woman.
 
crush said:
We had a little Husker Du, Dad, Espola and a Surf Futbol participation yesterday. It was great to see you all make some noise yesterday :) Surf Futbol took center stage. He is full of Pride.

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Neither MLB nor any of the companies that only had their pride logo posted on Twitter yesterday have ever posted their pride logo the entire month. You’re just conditioned by the fact that US Soccer does.

By the way, when was the last time MLB changed their logo for thin blue racist piggie line month? Or christian priest/rector/pastor child molester month?
 
Slobodan said:
1. Making boys plays against other boys instead of wearing pink cleats and beating girls so they finally feel special.
2. 750,000 annual abortions to be free of responsibility. That's right... adolescent genocide isn't just for AR-15s anymore!
3. Prince Harry did some coke while hunting, EOTL. Do you think he used an assault rifle?
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If you don’t want an abortion, don’t have one. For those who do but live in a fascist state, contact the Brigid Foundation. We will get you where you need to go.

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SurFutbol said:
Neither MLB nor any of the companies that only had their pride logo posted on Twitter yesterday have ever posted their pride logo the entire month. You’re just conditioned by the fact that US Soccer does.

By the way, when was the last time MLB changed their logo for thin blue racist piggie line month? Or christian priest/rector/pastor child molester month?
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Little Baby Demon Buddy, you need to seek help. Mental illness is real. I hope you stay for the month of June. I'm here to point out the truth. You are so full of Pride.
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