Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

Luis Andres said:
Tired of seeing all the socialist soccer heads here cry and bicker. They always have an excuse and complaint for everything. They blame others for their own kids downfalls. When the reality is that if their kid was good enough, all the doors would be opened. Start thinking like entrepreneurs and find the ways to make things happen. Get it done. Where there’s a will there’s a way. Maybe the reason why your son or daughter never got far in soccer or picked by the top teams etc is because of your attitudes and outlook on life itself and you pass this on to your children. Look at yourself first before judging others. Quit fucking complaining. Tired of this forum. You guys sound like a bunch of nagging bitches. Came back to write this cause you guys are ridiculous.
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WTH, where have you been hiding? Drops a bomb!!! Listen Luis, I stayed here and fought the good fight for true goathood. We need to save the top goats from this or the USA Woman's team will be like men and not advance in the future. Girls are so sick of this. Rumor has it many older girls are done with travel soccer ball where everyone and I mean everyone think their kiddo is World class, Premier, Elite, #1 in the world and so on. No folks, their are only about 1% top players and then that gets weeded out to .1%. Someone, please save the goats :)
 
MacDre said:
You make compelling arguments. But, I have a feeling that your analysis is superficial. I also think the mindset that you are advocating is part of the reason many get manipulated by slick talking coaches in track suits.

I think the “late bloomer” and “development” mindset is all part of the hussle. Unfortunately, parents have let dude in the track suit frame the issues and I’m not sure that we’ve thought critically on the issue.

On Netflix, look at the I am Bolt documentary. Beginning at aprox. minute 57.35 and ending at aprox. minute 56.10 Bolt gives his opinion on hard work and late bloomers. I agree with Bolt and challenge anyone to name a world class late bloomer!

So, if we can agree the late bloomer theory is bogus, what’s wrong with the Blues approach? If my kid played club and wasn’t being approached by a club like the Blues I’d be having a talk with my kid letting them know that they don’t have what it takes to play at a higher level. So is the problem the shady coach in the track suit or the gullible parent that thinks they have a late bloomer that just needs development in the right environment with the right coach?
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The fact that you think if your daughter isn’t “approached” by a “big club” and now you become the authority and telling her she doesn’t have what it takes to play in college? Some “Dad”? You’re a loser man. Repent.
 
SouthBayFutbol said:
I get the feeling you are moving the goalposts a little here.

You go from what comes across as somewhat of a vindictive reason not to add clubs:
"Because the clubs that did all the work and put all the money in have no incentive to let those that didn’t enjoy the benefit of hard work and financial risk taking. Because the clubs that didn’t do the hard work and take the financial risks have no entitlement to anything. Because clubs like Surf, Blues and Slammers have already proven they develop talent and provide value, and they don’t care how much people who aren’t willing to pay for it whine."

To ECNL is under no legal obligation to add teams.

Of course ECNL is under no legal obligation to add teams and does anybody really need to research their bylaws to agree with that? You are stating a fact that no one has disputed. This is, however, about an opportunity to finally get the top teams in Southern California, under 1 platform, to play each other and elevate the league.

I'm sure parents that have been through this process can attest to the importance of your Club's coaches in the recruiting process. They are the link between colleges and players. Those that have a solid reputation and track record of producing top talent will give their players the nod over the coaches that do not.

So unless and until these coaches at top GDA Clubs leave, there will not be this mass exodus of players that many are predicting. A few will certainly leave but those with aspirations will still go to the top clubs in ECNL that have those college connections (LAFC, Surf & Blues). Meaning the ECNL SW stays top heavy with results for 80% of their games being 8-0 instead of 4-0.

Again this is not about entitlement, legal or even moral obligation of anyone. But wouldn't it be nice if the ECNL SW division had: LAFC, Surf, Beach, Legends, Blues, RSC, LAG, Heat FC, Phoenix Rising, Slammers playing against each other every weekend? Tell me how that does not "Raise the Game..."
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Yes, but don;t leave out my dd team bro, Strikers!!! I want Beach & Legends in bad. I already wrote Mr Lavers. I'm pissed. I will let you know what he has to say. My suggestion long ago was make Surf Cup in August the fight for 16 spots in the SW ECNL. Two Divisions. I told Lavers this is fair and will help with getting all the division out of socal and get us back to pure competition where teams advance because they win, not politics.
 
Ellejustus said:
Most excellent take MacDre. The hussle in the track suit....lol! The jealousy of Blues is crazy.
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I don’t think anyone is jealous of blues. Honestly. They have crappy old coaches that get laughed at behind their backs. No one cares for their work.

having said that they’ve done a tremendous job marketing to girls soccer and standing on the shoulders of giants. This has allowed them to walk up to little girls in parking lots and stupid parents think it’s the biggest thing in the world. It sick.

but there ya go...
 
MacDre said:
I doubt very seriously if those programs are in schools with a high percentage of African-Americans of British decent. There may me a few Brazilians, Colombians, Panamanian’s etc but they’re “culturally” latino and don’t need exposure to soccer.
I’m actually in the process of starting a nonprofit to address the need. So again, I seriously doubt the veracity of your statement and I challenge you to give clear examples.
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In those schools, there are probably very little African Americans of British decent but there is a number of African Americans in those schools. Why do they have to be of British decent it makes no sense.

I know the schools he is working with because we discuss it. In those areas the income are lower the schools are racially diverse and he is exposing them to soccer. You said They have not been exposed to the sport. They I assume you mean lower income families. I told you that blanket statement is not true and gave you the reason I know this. You can take it or leave it. I don't have numbers exposed or percentages that come to trainings outside elementary pe because we do not discuss it but you make a blanket statement with out any numbers so maybe you statement lacks teeth too.
MacDre said:
My kid has never played club and was developed in TJ. I have never paid more than $10.00 per month in fees.
TJ also has an Olympic development center to train kids at low to no cost in all sports. My kid has also gone to tournaments throughout Mexico and the flights are often sponsored by Volaris.
I hate the fact that youth sports have been monitized!
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Cost of living in TJ as opposed to San Diego or Vegas. How much does the municipality charge this non club club to pay for lights on the field or for the field and do they require insurance? Does Volaris sponsor a bball team to travel around the country or a baseball team. Comparing soccer from country to country is Fuji Apples and Granny Smith Apples. Both apples but taste smell and look different.

Exposure is one thing. Getting mom and dad to buy into it is another. The percentages of moms and dad no matter what race will lean toward other sports in America.
 
What causes envy and jealousy?
Jealousy also stems from feelings of inadequacy, though they are usually more conscious than with envy. However, whereas envy is the desire to possess what someone else has, jealousy is the fear of losing what we have. ...((Like our top goats? No one owns a goat BTW. I'm sick and tired of hearing how clubs think they developed the goat. No, the suits did not. They trained the Goat only. Goat must do the work and most importantly, have the physical tools to play at the highest goat level))

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methood said:
I don’t think anyone is jealous of blues. Honestly. They have crappy old coaches that get laughed at behind their backs. No one cares for their work.

having said that they’ve done a tremendous job marketing to girls soccer and standing on the shoulders of giants. This has allowed them to walk up to little girls in parking lots and stupid parents think it’s the biggest thing in the world. It sick.

but there ya go...
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There is nothing wrong with having experience. Old is good. Also there is nothing wrong by recruiting the best most athletic players and having them compete with each other and play together. Isn’t that what all the best teams in sports do. Ask Barcelona why it pays to have the best play and train with the best. Nothing better for development than playing against the top competition and training with the best players and athletes. I played basketball when I was younger and I remember getting better by going to the park and playing with the best black ballers out there. As I became better they wanted me on their team.
 
Also late bloomers in their sports... Michael Jordan.. Shaquille O'Neil.. Tom Brady... none were stand youth players going into high school. What they had they some early bloomers do not is drive. My son might have been considered a late bloomer. Think of the typical kid every dad coach puts in goal because they look less athletic and may be a little slower when we all.start.are.kids out playing. That kid is now 6'3" and one of the fastest on his squad. He can dunk two handed no problem and is having great conversations with schools looking for a keeper.
 
methood said:
The fact that you think if your daughter isn’t “approached” by a “big club” and now you become the authority and telling her she doesn’t have what it takes to play in college? Some “Dad”? You’re a loser man. Repent.
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And you’re illiterate and have poor reading comprehension. It doesn’t take elite club soccer to play in college. AYSO or something cheaper will do dumb ass.
 
MacDre said:
My kid has never played club and was developed in TJ. I have never paid more than $10.00 per month in fees.
TJ also has an Olympic development center to train kids at low to no cost in all sports. My kid has also gone to tournaments throughout Mexico and the flights are often sponsored by Volaris.
I hate the fact that youth sports have been monitized!
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And how do you think that is financed? How was the center funded and who pays its operating costs? Because I bet the $10/month the players pay doesn't cover it. SO, who is paying?
 
SouthBayFutbol said:
I get the feeling you are moving the goalposts a little here.

You go from what comes across as somewhat of a vindictive reason not to add clubs:
"Because the clubs that did all the work and put all the money in have no incentive to let those that didn’t enjoy the benefit of hard work and financial risk taking. Because the clubs that didn’t do the hard work and take the financial risks have no entitlement to anything. Because clubs like Surf, Blues and Slammers have already proven they develop talent and provide value, and they don’t care how much people who aren’t willing to pay for it whine."

To ECNL is under no legal obligation to add teams.

Of course ECNL is under no legal obligation to add teams and does anybody really need to research their bylaws to agree with that? You are stating a fact that no one has disputed. This is, however, about an opportunity to finally get the top teams in Southern California, under 1 platform, to play each other and elevate the league.

I'm sure parents that have been through this process can attest to the importance of your Club's coaches in the recruiting process. They are the link between colleges and players. Those that have a solid reputation and track record of producing top talent will give their players the nod over the coaches that do not.

So unless and until these coaches at top GDA Clubs leave, there will not be this mass exodus of players that many are predicting. A few will certainly leave but those with aspirations will still go to the top clubs in ECNL that have those college connections (LAFC, Surf & Blues). Meaning the ECNL SW stays top heavy with results for 80% of their games being 8-0 instead of 4-0.

Again this is not about entitlement, legal or even moral obligation of anyone. But wouldn't it be nice if the ECNL SW division had: LAFC, Surf, Beach, Legends, Blues, RSC, LAG, Heat FC, Phoenix Rising, Slammers playing against each other every weekend? Tell me how that does not "Raise the Game..."
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Believe me the mass exodus will happen. It did years ago when ECNL was created, it happend when GDA was created. Good players are going to get displaced by better players. It isn't a bad thing. As I have said for the last 10 years there are only about 25-40 elite players per birth year in SoCal and less in many other markets. All of these self styled "elite" clubs and teams have for the most part got good but not elite players. Dilution was the biggest problem since the leagues splintered years ago. There really should only be about 2-3 teams per age group at the top of the pyramid in SoCal but due to geographic restraints you might have to double that number. Lots of those players that aren't in the top 25-40 are mostly role players anyway.

The Purge is coming and it will be a good thing for everyone. If everyone is elite then nobody is. Reality checks are in the mail and a lot of people are going to like what they get.....
 
vegasguy said:
Also late bloomers in their sports... Michael Jordan.. Shaquille O'Neil.. Tom Brady... none were stand youth players going into high school. What they had they some early bloomers do not is drive. My son might have been considered a late bloomer. Think of the typical kid every dad coach puts in goal because they look less athletic and may be a little slower when we all.start.are.kids out playing. That kid is now 6'3" and one of the fastest on his squad. He can dunk two handed no problem and is having great conversations with schools looking for a keeper.
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you forgot to mention how Shaquille was a genetic specimen himself and Jordan was a
freak athlete. But I do agree, the mind will dictate how far you go. You can be a late bloomer but you better have the mental part
 
Butt-Head said:
There is nothing wrong with having experience. Old is good. Also there is nothing wrong by recruiting the best most athletic players and having them compete with each other and play together. Isn’t that what all the best teams in sports do. Ask Barcelona why it pays to have the best play and train with the best. Nothing better for development than playing against the top competition and training with the best players and athletes. I played basketball when I was younger and I remember getting better by going to the park and playing with the best black ballers out there. As I became better they wanted me on their team.
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....heyheyeyeyyeyeyey. What happen to you? Did you get China virus?
 
Butt-Head said:
you forgot to mention how Shaquille was a genetic specimen himself and Jordan was a
freak athlete. But I do agree, the mind will dictate how far you go. You can be a late bloomer but you better have the mental part
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I watched this guy play at RSM. He was not that good. WSU took a chance his Sr year in HS because they saw something and his dad was a good baller. This is a late bloomer...


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Dof3 said:
And how do you think that is financed? How was the center funded and who pays its operating costs? Because I bet the $10/month the players pay doesn't cover it. SO, who is paying?
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He’s comparing apples to oranges. $10 a month may mean something in Mexico. Here in California one can wipe their ass with that, it’s what a pack of toilet paper costs. It’s not realistic for Cali
 
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