Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

Go back and look. I have not expressed an opinion. All I did was point out that’s the choice you want to make but don’t want to acknowledge. If I support re-opening the economy, I will admit that it comes with the price of a lot more dead old people and some who aren’t.

We cannot do what S Korea did, it is far too late and demographically impossible. Saying “let’s do what S Korea did” is just another excuse for those who want to reopen the economy to avoid responsibility for the results of that decision. It’s just more blaming others and washing our hands if the guilt when it doesn’t work because “we didn’t do what s korea did and could have prevented all those dead people”. People will die because of what you want to happen. Just admit you’re ok with that.
Funny, because south korea's foreign minister said that even when they were leading the world with 900 cases per day, they never considered locking down because based on their experience it doesn't work. Its counter productive. Keeping people indoors and lowering their immune system because they lack vitamin D from sunlight and aren't getting the natural germs that keep their immune system up may be what is making people susceptible to the virus. more people are being hospitalized that are adhering to the lockdown and not going out in pubic.


You yourself said you see the benefit of letting old people die now so that more people can live. I don't believe more people will die when we open up the country compared to the prolonged virus due to the lockdown, but even if I did, why would you not want to save more lives in the long run? Why do you want more people to die?
 
Funny, because south korea's foreign minister said that even when they were leading the world with 900 cases per day, they never considered locking down because based on their experience it doesn't work. Its counter productive. Keeping people indoors and lowering their immune system because they lack vitamin D from sunlight and aren't getting the natural germs that keep their immune system up may be what is making people susceptible to the virus. more people are being hospitalized that are adhering to the lockdown and not going out in pubic.


You yourself said you see the benefit of letting old people die now so that more people can live. I don't believe more people will die when we open up the country compared to the prolonged virus due to the lockdown, but even if I did, why would you not want to save more lives in the long run? Why do you want more people to die?
If you want to take the South Korea model, take all of it.

Massive testing, paid for by the national government. Government mandated production of test kits. Legally enforced quarantine, complete with multi-thousand dollar fines. Everyone on the street wears a mask, even when exercising. Tracking every person in the country using cell phone data. Closing schools, bars, and nightclubs.

It works. But they didn’t open everything, either.
 
Massive testing - Check, Paid for by the government - check, production of test kits - check, legally enforced quarantine - check. U.S. is doing all those things. Not everyone wears a mask here but not everyone wears it in korea as well. tracking people (By GPS) which is already done unless you manually turn of your GPS when you get your phone. some people do it willingly by checking in to different locations they go. Not all schools were closed in korea, bars and nightclubs were still open in korea. You can check some yelp reviews, some clubs didn't let foreigners in so you might see some bad reviews. The thing korea didn't do was a countrywide lock down like us which ruins an economy. Forcing people to stay indoors will lower their immune system, lack of exercise is also bad for the immune system.
 
Hold on. A lot of old people dying is the price of freedom. And freedom requires that I be allowed to shop, eat and work whenever and however I want. I don’t want to only go to the mall, and the grocery store, and the hardware store, and my kid’s soccer practice, and work, and the park one day a week. I don’t care if I kill some old people because I didn’t buy enough Doritos and beer to last the week. Like I said, price of freedom! Unless someone wants an abortion. They can’t have that.
How would you be killing these old people?

Wouldn't they be the ones not going out. The ones practicing social distancing?

I am pretty sure we can chew gum and even walk at the same time.
 
Funny, because south korea's foreign minister said that even when they were leading the world with 900 cases per day, they never considered locking down because based on their experience it doesn't work. Its counter productive. Keeping people indoors and lowering their immune system because they lack vitamin D from sunlight and aren't getting the natural germs that keep their immune system up may be what is making people susceptible to the virus. more people are being hospitalized that are adhering to the lockdown and not going out in pubic.


You yourself said you see the benefit of letting old people die now so that more people can live. I don't believe more people will die when we open up the country compared to the prolonged virus due to the lockdown, but even if I did, why would you not want to save more lives in the long run? Why do you want more people to die?

Denial. So now you’re arguing that killing old people saves lives? That is really the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. You will literally believe anything that allows you to deny that saving your wallet will kill people. Just admit that you’re doing all these old people a favor and sending them to their lord and savior that much sooner. It’s for their own good that they’re dying, not just yours.
 

Added former GDA club Cleveland Force to the Regional League.

Thanks for trying to get this thread back on track!
 
Nobody is telling old people to come out of their hole. They can continue to lock themselves in. The sick with preexisting conditions can lock themselves in as well. Someone needs to generate the taxes that pay for the stimulus the scared need to survive. We can even deliver them food and drop off a few wipes so they can sanitize their care package. it doesn't take bravery to do this.
You are disgusting. So many self indulgent children out there who do not and have not learned to save for emergencies. And the wipes you want delivered, are those the same wipes the old people used to wipe your butt when you shit yourself as a baby?
 
WTF? you don't make any sense. You need to be a little more clear on why old people cant stay quarantined. explain. Is it because they have to work to live? Well there are lot of people that need to work to live that can't right now. Is it because they need assistance? Well who will be giving that assistance? people that need to go out and work obviously, whether that's through healthcare of financial assistance. why cant you see that we can do both. South korea did both. They quarantined those that were at risk and kept the country open. Why is that so hard to see? your explanation has no logic. We literally have a blueprint to beat this without ruining the economy in south korea.
The difference is that we have an idiot for President who thinks drinking disinfectant will cure people. South Korea and the US had their first identified death from the virus on the same day in January. Example of two ways of handling the virus.
 
Denial. So now you’re arguing that killing old people saves lives? That is really the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. You will literally believe anything that allows you to deny that saving your wallet will kill people. Just admit that you’re doing all these old people a favor and sending them to their lord and savior that much sooner. It’s for their own good that they’re dying, not just yours.
Lol you really don't read anything I write. If your going to straight up lie there's no point in talking to you. I already said we can protect the old and sick and let the young and healthy work. Nobody is forcing people to leave their self quarantine. If you read that as intentionally getting old people to die of covid then you are retarded. Lol. You were the one that said you could see the benefit of some people dying so that more could live. If you see it that way why do you want more people to die? Stop going in circles and answer the question
 
You are disgusting. So many self indulgent children out there who do not and have not learned to save for emergencies. And the wipes you want delivered, are those the same wipes the old people used to wipe your butt when you shit yourself as a baby?
Are you ok? Seriously there's something wrong with you. Yes, there are people that could do better at financial planning. But there's are some people that don't make much therefore can't save much. Then life can happen, death of a spouse or parent. I don't feel as bad for people with 100k salaries but there are many more people that barely get by not making that much. You are out of touch on top of being really odd. I hope someone is looking after you.
 
The difference is that we have an idiot for President who thinks drinking disinfectant will cure people. South Korea and the US had their first identified death from the virus on the same day in January. Example of two ways of handling the virus.
Please, tell me where trump said to "drink disinfectant" media always takes it another level, trump doesn't help by talking off the top but still. Its disingenuous. If you really believe he said to drink disinfectant, someone needs to take away all the chemical cleaners in your house, if you have one. You seem a little off.
 
OC reported zero Coronas and I mean zero for those under 24 years old. No deaths yesterday in the OC. Let the kids out and play soccer for goodness sake. Grandpa and Grandma need to wait this out longer as do all the peeps with health issues. Dad 4, stop the fear based BS dude!! You all know how lame this has become. BTW dad4, I spoke to my mom last night in a dream. My mom was the most unselfish person I have ever known. 12 kids and 68 grand and great grand kids. My dad was amazing too and selfless and fought in the Korean War and then fought Parkinson's for 10 years. His last place to live was the VA hospital in Long Beach. His last three months of his life was pure hell. I know because I visited him almost everyday. I'l' be honest with you and the others who think like you. I wish my dad got the Corona and died quickly instead of rotting his old Parkinson's bones slowly away at the VA. They both would want the younger kids out and they would stay home. My mom would finish her sewing and she would be happy to watch Days of our Lives on Netflex. Most older people I talk to want us out. BTW, my mom died at a nursing home. She went their for her last three months on this planet. Those three months she slept 22 hours day. If she did get Corona and only lived at the nursing home for two months instead of three, I don;t think she would have known the difference. That be the truth from my experience but we all experience a different life from our own lenses.
 
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Senators are currently interviewing four top US Administration experts about efforts to curb impact of Covid19 on our lives.

Might be a good idea to listen in and get a measured and professional assessment, rather than some of the hyped-opinion-slinging that goes on at both far ends of the political spectrum.
 
Massive testing - Check, Paid for by the government - check, production of test kits - check, legally enforced quarantine - check. U.S. is doing all those things. Not everyone wears a mask here but not everyone wears it in korea as well. tracking people (By GPS) which is already done unless you manually turn of your GPS when you get your phone. some people do it willingly by checking in to different locations they go. Not all schools were closed in korea, bars and nightclubs were still open in korea. You can check some yelp reviews, some clubs didn't let foreigners in so you might see some bad reviews. The thing korea didn't do was a countrywide lock down like us which ruins an economy. Forcing people to stay indoors will lower their immune system, lack of exercise is also bad for the immune system.
Wrong. The US response is NOTHING like S. Korea. Korea = country where every male is required to serve in the military for 2 years. US = country where lady has "NO FORCED VACCINE, NO TRACKING" sprawled across her car as I was driving yesterday. The US is too big to have the same efficiency in response as these other smaller countries.
 
OC reported zero Coronas and I mean zero for those under 24 years old. No deaths yesterday in the OC. Let the kids out and play soccer for goodness sake. Grandpa and Grandma need to wait this out longer as do all the peeps with health issues. Dad 4, stop the fear based BS dude!! You all know how lame this has become. BTW dad4, I spoke to my mom last night in a dream. My mom was the most unselfish person I have ever known. 12 kids and 68 grand and great grand kids. My dad was amazing too and selfless and fought in the Korean War and then fought Parkinson's for 10 years. His last place to live was the VA hospital in Long Beach. His last three months of his life was pure hell. I know because I visited him almost everyday. I'l' be honest with you and the others who think like you. I wish my dad got the Corona and died quickly instead of rotting his old Parkinson's bones slowly away at the VA. They both would want the younger kids out and they would stay home. My mom would finish her sewing and she would be happy to watch Days of our Lives on Netflex. Most older people I talk to want us out. BTW, my mom died at a nursing home. She went their for her last three months on this planet. Those three months she slept 22 hours day. If she did get Corona and only lived at the nursing home for two months instead of three, I don;t think she would have known the difference. That be the truth from my experience but we all experience a different life from our own lenses.
Long as you are doing your part to slow it down.

Wear a mask, even when exercising. Limit shopping trips to one day a week.

This doesn't have to go on forever. San Jose has been in decline for over a month now. They're getting close to meeting the infection standard. (one new infection per 10,000 pop per 2 weeks) Should be there by next week. After that, just need testing and we can start to open.
 
Please, tell me where trump said to "drink disinfectant" media always takes it another level, trump doesn't help by talking off the top but still. Its disingenuous. If you really believe he said to drink disinfectant, someone needs to take away all the chemical cleaners in your house, if you have one. You seem a little off.

You are correct. Trump didn't say "drink". He said "inject."

TRUMP: "And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning? "
 
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