Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

Are you sure? by tomorrow I’d be surprised if any of those boys teams you named are DA. Who said Girls DA was supposed to be fully funded show your source? I’ve never seen that announced anywhere?
Are you sure? by tomorrow I’d be surprised if any of those boys teams you named are DA. Who said Girls DA was supposed to be fully funded show your source? I’ve never seen that announced anywhere?

Its going to get interesting. DA teams going to move over to encl. On paper they should clearly dominate.
 
Agreed--Blues for one comes to mind as we all know--you'll never be able to stop all from doing (fortunately the reputation sticks). But the league can still set policy to encourage clubs to do things the right way.

That is such an inaccurate trope. Right off the top of my head I can think of kids at or committed to the following schools who started at Blues when they were 10 or younger: Stanford, UCLA (3), Santa Clara (2), Colorado, Cal (2), and WSU (2). I can think of more who were at Blues since at least age 11: Stanford, UCLA, Santa Clara, USC (2). And that’s just off the top of my head.

Older kids go to Blues because Blues can help them. Preventing that out of pure jealousy is bad for consumers. If a club wants to keep its kids, be a better club and get more kids to Stanford and UCLA.
 
Well....ECNL coaches are already putting feelers out to those DA families.
Yup, several e-mails and calls in the last 24 hours. A couple on instances of direct contact with the players as well. My girls were cordial and redirected those individuals to reach out to their parents and we had some "friendly" chats.

Told the girls to be wary of anyone talking about "The LIST" and "Goat" and frequently says "Brah / Bro".

Much bigger fish to fry at the moment, but entertaining to read all the comments and interaction among the posters in this thread.
 
ECNL doesn't need to let anyone in, but it's not a question of need. This is their chance to build a real "monopoly" in SoCal girls soccer by being more inclusive and preventing the formation of a rival as Hawkeye stated. I would add every DA club of merit, and then let competition shake out ECNL (tier 1) vs ECRL (tier 2) over the course of what will likely be a shorten seasoned next year anyway. You could form ECNL North (8-9 teams) and ECNL South (9-10 teams). Adding 5 teams from NV and AZ (some already in) gives you 2 divisions of 12 teams.

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That's basically the SCDSL Flight 1 from three years ago. Which was the last time the 2005 teams all played one another. Maybe the 2006 birth year as well. I didn't follow how the following year played out but I believe there was a departure from SCDSL into DPL and pre ECNL.
 
Yup, several e-mails and calls in the last 24 hours. A couple on instances of direct contact with the players as well. My girls were cordial and redirected those individuals to reach out to their parents and we had some "friendly" chats.

Told the girls to be wary of anyone talking about "The LIST" and "Goat" and frequently says "Brah / Bro".

Much bigger fish to fry at the moment, but entertaining to read all the comments and interaction among the posters in this thread.
I've heard of a few goats checking out ECNL way before Corona and it is true many are looking around. No List to offer either. Non from Beach or Legends. My dd had a few friends from other clubs reach out to her about hs soccer and how excited they are to play with her next year :) A few friends who played GDA are already talking smack. Capo player. No girl is talking about club. In fact, their not too excited about club and neither am I. We will be pretty good little team. I'm not too excited about club soccer right about now and I'm 50/50 on weather I should tell my dd I'm not paying one penny and let's just play HS Soccer and Track. I'm serious. If Beach & Legends gets in then I will 100% pay. I'm not happy with all the division.
 
No I am saying there are kids out there that could become elite players but will never get the chance to be in an environment where that will happen. That is what happens when 1/2 the population cannot afford to participate. For that matter, there are also probably great coaches out there that will never move up the ladder because they have the wrong accent.
And...there are potential great musicians who couldn't afford the instrument or lessons, there are potential great tennis players who never had access to tennis courts, their are potential great alpine skiers who could never afford to ski, there are potential ice skaters who never lived where there were outside ponds that froze in the winter to play on for free or where they never had the money to pay for lessons. Have you ever watched young children play, particularly girls? So many potential gymnast out there doing there cartwheels and flips and playing on the bars, but alas they never had the resources to pay for lessons. How many future Arnold Palmers or Tiger Woods never got to pick up a golf club? Please stop.
 
And...there are potential great musicians who couldn't afford the instrument or lessons, there are potential great tennis players who never had access to tennis courts, their are potential great alpine skiers who could never afford to ski, there are potential ice skaters who never lived where there were outside ponds that froze in the winter to play on for free or where they never had the money to pay for lessons. Have you ever watched young children play, particularly girls? So many potential gymnast out there doing there cartwheels and flips and playing on the bars, but alas they never had the resources to pay for lessons. How many future Arnold Palmers or Tiger Woods never got to pick up a golf club? Please stop.

I thought he was already limiting the argument to soccer.
 
And...there are potential great musicians who couldn't afford the instrument or lessons, there are potential great tennis players who never had access to tennis courts, their are potential great alpine skiers who could never afford to ski, there are potential ice skaters who never lived where there were outside ponds that froze in the winter to play on for free or where they never had the money to pay for lessons. Have you ever watched young children play, particularly girls? So many potential gymnast out there doing there cartwheels and flips and playing on the bars, but alas they never had the resources to pay for lessons. How many future Arnold Palmers or Tiger Woods never got to pick up a golf club? Please stop.
The problem with your examples is that you don’t see those options available to the disenfranchised around the world whereas soccer is. All you need is a ball, a little space, and someone with a lil’ “know how.”
 
The problem with your examples is that you don’t see those options available to the disenfranchised around the world whereas soccer is. All you need is a ball, a little space, and someone with a lil’ “know how.”
Ya and all you need for baseball is a stick and a ball. All you need for gymnastics is ground and some boards. All you need for golf is a stick and a ball and some holes. The disenfranchised don't see other options because it is not part of their culture.
 
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And...there are potential great musicians who couldn't afford the instrument or lessons, there are potential great tennis players who never had access to tennis courts, their are potential great alpine skiers who could never afford to ski, there are potential ice skaters who never lived where there were outside ponds that froze in the winter to play on for free or where they never had the money to pay for lessons. Have you ever watched young children play, particularly girls? So many potential gymnast out there doing there cartwheels and flips and playing on the bars, but alas they never had the resources to pay for lessons. How many future Arnold Palmers or Tiger Woods never got to pick up a golf club? Please stop.
The question was whether we should artificially increase the cost of soccer. Soccer, by itself, is one of the cheapest sports out there. There is no real reason it should be in the same paragraph as gymnastics, golf, or skiing.

But somehow we have turned it into a rich kids sport. That's a problem.
 
The question was whether we should artificially increase the cost of soccer. Soccer, by itself, is one of the cheapest sports out there. There is no real reason it should be in the same paragraph as gymnastics, golf, or skiing.

But somehow we have turned it into a rich kids sport. That's a problem.

AYSO was not very expensive. What you talking about?
 
Ya and all you need for baseball is a stick and a ball. All you need for gymnastics is ground and some boards. All you need for golf is a stick and a ball and some holes. The disenfranchised don't see other options because it is not part of their culture.
Lot’s of poor kids play baseball around the world. A few years back, I was in Cartagena Colombia and the locals were playing baseball with broomsticks and bottle-caps!
 
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The question was whether we should artificially increase the cost of soccer. Soccer, by itself, is one of the cheapest sports out there. There is no real reason it should be in the same paragraph as gymnastics, golf, or skiing.

But somehow we have turned it into a rich kids sport. That's a problem.

The question you’re really asking is whether we should artificially lower the cost of soccer. The free market has decided exactly how much soccer development costs. It is the amount that clubs like Blues, Surf and Slammers charge plus travel costs. I know that because that’s what is actually happening. Youth soccer development is expensive. It is expensive to pay the coaches. It is expensive to rent fields. It is expensive to get enough good competition and training partners in the same place at the same time. Why are you arguing about the price of dope? It costs what it costs.

I see a lot of people like you claiming other people should provide elite training for free, but I don’t see any of you stepping up to the plate and doing it yourselves. It’s always about what other people can do for you for free, followed by frustration when no one ever does. If this is so important to you, go for it @dad4. Quit your job. Be the one who gives your time and money away and tosses your life away just so a girl can play soccer at SDSU instead of just being a student there.

The other thing, which some others have touched on, is that putting money and time into youth soccer as a means of lifting children out of poverty is no different than flushing money down the toilet. If you want to help society, put your money into early childhood education. Why do you want to make kids who have no interest in soccer play it? Why should they play soccer instead of basketball or softball? Play the violin? Join the school robotics team? It seems to me that, among these options, soccer is the absolute worst option of the bunch.
 
They do the same in the the Dominican Republic, the best baseball playing country in the world.


You are on to something. The poor inner city Puerto Rican boys playing baseball on the streets in Puerto Rico have one critical thing in common with the poor inner city girls in the US - neither give and s**t about soccer. For both, soccer is a lame sport and a waste of time.
 
You are on to something. The poor inner city Puerto Rican boys playing baseball on the streets in Puerto Rico have one critical thing in common with the poor inner city girls in the US - neither give and s**t about soccer. For both, soccer is a lame sport and a waste of time.
Because they have not been exposed to the sport.
 
Because they have not been exposed to the sport.

Actually it is because the sport is not that great and provides no future for either demographic. What makes you think soccer is a better sport than baseball or basketball? What makes you think it is a more productive use of a kid’s time than, well, anything?
 
Actually it is because the sport is not that great and provides no future for either demographic. What makes you think soccer is a better sport than baseball or basketball? What makes you think it is a more productive use of a kid’s time than, well, anything?
I see several Brazilians making lots of scratch in Europe. I think soccer should be an additional option. Footwork is very important in all ball sports therefore I think soccer should be used as a foundational sport for all youth to develop footwork and athleticism regardless of future plans. Why does it have to be either or? I prefer all of the above. Athleticism is important for injury prevention and playing at higher levels.
 
I see several Brazilians making lots of scratch in Europe. I think soccer should be an additional option. Footwork is very important in all ball sports therefore I think soccer should be used as a foundational sport for all youth to develop footwork and athleticism regardless of future plans. Why does it have to be either or? I prefer all of the above. Athleticism is important for injury prevention and playing at higher levels.
The old world and especially America was the law of two. Which only means, most live in an Either Or mindset. Right or Left. Republican or Democrat. Liberal or Conservative. Black or white. Rich or Poor. Heaven or Hell. My way or the highway :) I could go on and on. Too many of you see life that way. The universe is all about the law of three. Check out the atom and let me know when the universe stops. Soccer is so easy to set up for free. I played basketball for free. I played beach volleyball for free. I played wiffle ball for free. Tony Gwynn credited wiffle ball for the hitter he was.
 
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