Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

RedCard said:
How many Beach players actually live in Long Beach??? Probably just a handful. Some may already live on the Westside so it’ll be an easier commute for them. If little Suzy wants to play for an ECNL team, mom and dad will make it happen. I did it a couple of times with my kids. Most of my dd’s team moved from SoCal Academy/LA Surf to Breakers with most of us; including myself; living in the SGV. My son played for Legends DA last season with practice in Chino and home games at UC Riverside. It was tough but we did it. Hard choices will have to be made by families, just how bad do they want it...
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More than you think, but your point rings true as does mine. We can both be right.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I have to disagree. Being a good athlete does not mean that you are a good soccer player, football player, basketball player etc. The best schools find the best soccer players and if a player is good enough they will make it work. Are you telling me that there are players somewhere who played soccer growing up who are elite level and who want to play in college that can't find a team that will give them a scholarship plus grants that allow them to afford college? If so I call BS.
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No I am saying there are kids out there that could become elite players but will never get the chance to be in an environment where that will happen. That is what happens when 1/2 the population cannot afford to participate. For that matter, there are also probably great coaches out there that will never move up the ladder because they have the wrong accent.
 
MacDre said:
I see you have never had the privilege to indulge in the fabulous outdoor organic products of Humbolt county.
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Obviously has no clue. My buddy smokes this stuff today because of major back surgery he had years ago. This guy never smoked weed either until last year. 55 years old and was hooked on Morphine and Vicodin, Satan's little pills before the weed. Now off the poison and doing better. Anyway, I go over to his house and tells me he's got this premium "Cherry Pie." I grab it and I kid you not this stuff breaks up in my hands like dead man's bones. I said, "this is premium?" I then tell him about true skunk, Thai Stick, hash from the "brotherhood of eternal love" movement in laguna canyon that had much better quality products back in the 70s and 80s. I researched why the weed feels old and I'm told the boys have to freeze the dope now so it doesn;t go to mold.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
6. Professional Soccer players don't make much in this country. Have your kids focus on careers that actually pay more than $50k a year.
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I've never understood the parents that are so motivated to make their kid into a professional soccer player. It's really the worst career choice, especially in this country, unless your kid really is a prodigy of sorts. I would be more willing to encourage my kid to try to make it in Hollywood as an actor than I would a professional soccer player. Small chance of making it, injury can ruin career and terrible salary potential.
 
foreveryoung said:
I've never understood the parents that are so motivated to make their kid into a professional soccer player. It's really the worst career choice, especially in this country, unless your kid really is a prodigy of sorts. I would be more willing to encourage my kid to try to make it in Hollywood as an actor than I would a professional soccer player. Small chance of making it, injury can ruin career and terrible salary potential.
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What makes you think it's the parents? I asked my dd what she wanted to do at 11 and she said wanted to be on the national team and be pro soccer player. So what, I wanted to be a MLB player and also play for the Lakers when I was 11. I did not go to my dd and say, "heya, you want to go pro like OM?" No, they came to some of us. I checked it out and saw no money. I even came on here and it's 100% no money. So I told my goat no pro $$ unless your the best and she's not. Go pro and work part time job, no thanks!!
 
Ellejustus said:
What makes you think it's the parents? I asked my dd what she wanted to do at 11 and she said wanted to be on the national team and be pro soccer player. So what, I wanted to be a MLB player and also play for the Lakers when I was 11. I did not go to my dd and say, "heya, you want to go pro like OM?" No, they came to some of us. I checked it out and saw no money. I even came on here and it's 100% no money. So I told my goat no pro $$ unless your the best and she's not. Go pro and work part time job, no thanks!!
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Personal experience. In my experience it's clear the parents are driving the situation. Obviously that might not always be the case but I was referring to my experience.
 
Sunil Illuminati said:
Are you sure? by tomorrow I’d be surprised if any of those boys teams you named are DA. Who said Girls DA was supposed to be fully funded show your source? I’ve never seen that announced anywhere?
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Sunil Illuminati said:
Are you sure? by tomorrow I’d be surprised if any of those boys teams you named are DA. Who said Girls DA was supposed to be fully funded show your source? I’ve never seen that announced anywhere?
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Its going to get interesting. DA teams going to move over to encl. On paper they should clearly dominate.
 
oh canada said:
Agreed--Blues for one comes to mind as we all know--you'll never be able to stop all from doing (fortunately the reputation sticks). But the league can still set policy to encourage clubs to do things the right way.
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That is such an inaccurate trope. Right off the top of my head I can think of kids at or committed to the following schools who started at Blues when they were 10 or younger: Stanford, UCLA (3), Santa Clara (2), Colorado, Cal (2), and WSU (2). I can think of more who were at Blues since at least age 11: Stanford, UCLA, Santa Clara, USC (2). And that’s just off the top of my head.

Older kids go to Blues because Blues can help them. Preventing that out of pure jealousy is bad for consumers. If a club wants to keep its kids, be a better club and get more kids to Stanford and UCLA.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Well....ECNL coaches are already putting feelers out to those DA families.
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Yup, several e-mails and calls in the last 24 hours. A couple on instances of direct contact with the players as well. My girls were cordial and redirected those individuals to reach out to their parents and we had some "friendly" chats.

Told the girls to be wary of anyone talking about "The LIST" and "Goat" and frequently says "Brah / Bro".

Much bigger fish to fry at the moment, but entertaining to read all the comments and interaction among the posters in this thread.
 
sdb said:
ECNL doesn't need to let anyone in, but it's not a question of need. This is their chance to build a real "monopoly" in SoCal girls soccer by being more inclusive and preventing the formation of a rival as Hawkeye stated. I would add every DA club of merit, and then let competition shake out ECNL (tier 1) vs ECRL (tier 2) over the course of what will likely be a shorten seasoned next year anyway. You could form ECNL North (8-9 teams) and ECNL South (9-10 teams). Adding 5 teams from NV and AZ (some already in) gives you 2 divisions of 12 teams.

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That's basically the SCDSL Flight 1 from three years ago. Which was the last time the 2005 teams all played one another. Maybe the 2006 birth year as well. I didn't follow how the following year played out but I believe there was a departure from SCDSL into DPL and pre ECNL.
 
Technician72 said:
Yup, several e-mails and calls in the last 24 hours. A couple on instances of direct contact with the players as well. My girls were cordial and redirected those individuals to reach out to their parents and we had some "friendly" chats.

Told the girls to be wary of anyone talking about "The LIST" and "Goat" and frequently says "Brah / Bro".

Much bigger fish to fry at the moment, but entertaining to read all the comments and interaction among the posters in this thread.
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I've heard of a few goats checking out ECNL way before Corona and it is true many are looking around. No List to offer either. Non from Beach or Legends. My dd had a few friends from other clubs reach out to her about hs soccer and how excited they are to play with her next year :) A few friends who played GDA are already talking smack. Capo player. No girl is talking about club. In fact, their not too excited about club and neither am I. We will be pretty good little team. I'm not too excited about club soccer right about now and I'm 50/50 on weather I should tell my dd I'm not paying one penny and let's just play HS Soccer and Track. I'm serious. If Beach & Legends gets in then I will 100% pay. I'm not happy with all the division.
 
outside! said:
No I am saying there are kids out there that could become elite players but will never get the chance to be in an environment where that will happen. That is what happens when 1/2 the population cannot afford to participate. For that matter, there are also probably great coaches out there that will never move up the ladder because they have the wrong accent.
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And...there are potential great musicians who couldn't afford the instrument or lessons, there are potential great tennis players who never had access to tennis courts, their are potential great alpine skiers who could never afford to ski, there are potential ice skaters who never lived where there were outside ponds that froze in the winter to play on for free or where they never had the money to pay for lessons. Have you ever watched young children play, particularly girls? So many potential gymnast out there doing there cartwheels and flips and playing on the bars, but alas they never had the resources to pay for lessons. How many future Arnold Palmers or Tiger Woods never got to pick up a golf club? Please stop.
 
Copa9 said:
And...there are potential great musicians who couldn't afford the instrument or lessons, there are potential great tennis players who never had access to tennis courts, their are potential great alpine skiers who could never afford to ski, there are potential ice skaters who never lived where there were outside ponds that froze in the winter to play on for free or where they never had the money to pay for lessons. Have you ever watched young children play, particularly girls? So many potential gymnast out there doing there cartwheels and flips and playing on the bars, but alas they never had the resources to pay for lessons. How many future Arnold Palmers or Tiger Woods never got to pick up a golf club? Please stop.
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I thought he was already limiting the argument to soccer.
 
Copa9 said:
And...there are potential great musicians who couldn't afford the instrument or lessons, there are potential great tennis players who never had access to tennis courts, their are potential great alpine skiers who could never afford to ski, there are potential ice skaters who never lived where there were outside ponds that froze in the winter to play on for free or where they never had the money to pay for lessons. Have you ever watched young children play, particularly girls? So many potential gymnast out there doing there cartwheels and flips and playing on the bars, but alas they never had the resources to pay for lessons. How many future Arnold Palmers or Tiger Woods never got to pick up a golf club? Please stop.
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The problem with your examples is that you don’t see those options available to the disenfranchised around the world whereas soccer is. All you need is a ball, a little space, and someone with a lil’ “know how.”
 
MacDre said:
The problem with your examples is that you don’t see those options available to the disenfranchised around the world whereas soccer is. All you need is a ball, a little space, and someone with a lil’ “know how.”
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Ya and all you need for baseball is a stick and a ball. All you need for gymnastics is ground and some boards. All you need for golf is a stick and a ball and some holes. The disenfranchised don't see other options because it is not part of their culture.
 
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Copa9 said:
And...there are potential great musicians who couldn't afford the instrument or lessons, there are potential great tennis players who never had access to tennis courts, their are potential great alpine skiers who could never afford to ski, there are potential ice skaters who never lived where there were outside ponds that froze in the winter to play on for free or where they never had the money to pay for lessons. Have you ever watched young children play, particularly girls? So many potential gymnast out there doing there cartwheels and flips and playing on the bars, but alas they never had the resources to pay for lessons. How many future Arnold Palmers or Tiger Woods never got to pick up a golf club? Please stop.
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The question was whether we should artificially increase the cost of soccer. Soccer, by itself, is one of the cheapest sports out there. There is no real reason it should be in the same paragraph as gymnastics, golf, or skiing.

But somehow we have turned it into a rich kids sport. That's a problem.
 
dad4 said:
The question was whether we should artificially increase the cost of soccer. Soccer, by itself, is one of the cheapest sports out there. There is no real reason it should be in the same paragraph as gymnastics, golf, or skiing.

But somehow we have turned it into a rich kids sport. That's a problem.
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AYSO was not very expensive. What you talking about?
 
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