Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

soccer4us said:
I've said it before and will say it again. One of the main factors in accepting new clubs right now that no one is talking about. IF THEY ADD TOO MANY, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AT THEIR SHOWCASES TO PUT ALL TEAMS AT 1 COMPLEX. This is much more important then anyone gives credit for. Some politics of course is there like anything,ut this is one of the biggest factors. Otherwise the product you give clubs won't be nearly as good and that's a big negative.
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All of the comments may become irrelevant for EVERYONE! There probably won't be a soccer season this fall (club, high school, college or professional). If the virus continues there might not be a lot of clubs even in existence by this time next year. Anyone who thinks there will be showcases in November or December need to read the literature on this virus. Soccer is a contact sport. Even if there aren't people watching the game, players who have no symptoms can spread the virus to other players, parents, siblings and friends. Time will tell. Hope for the best and plan for the worst, even if the government didn't .
 
dad4 said:
Why does the 596th best team in the country need to be at a national complex? And why is it important enough to leave out the second best team in the country?

Looking at Sharks and Legends for U14. If I were a scout, I think I’d rather watch Legends.
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But then again, you are not a scout. :)
 
soccer4us said:
I've said it before and will say it again. One of the main factors in accepting new clubs right now that no one is talking about. IF THEY ADD TOO MANY, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AT THEIR SHOWCASES TO PUT ALL TEAMS AT 1 COMPLEX. This is much more important then anyone gives credit for. Some politics of course is there like anything, but this is one of the biggest factors. Otherwise the product you give clubs won't be nearly as good and that's a big negative.
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Easy fix. One solution would be to not let new club who jump in now participate in showcases next year. They can go to big open tournaments instead. Not the end of the world and an easy tradeoff for a club looking to be accepted into ECNL. The following year, limit showcases to the top X clubs per conference and then the others that don't qualify go instead to the big open tourneys instead of showcases.

Zero reason to refuse new club additions that will improve leagues and shorten average travel time just because of showcase field space. That's a very solvable problem.
 
Word is that there will be no soccer at least until 2021. All the sanctioning bodies would not be able to get insurance at a normal cost until 2021 at the earliest. Like others have said there may be some clubs that will likely no longer exist when all this is done.
 
timmyh said:
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Easy fix. One solution would be to not let new club who jump in now participate in showcases next year. They can go to big open tournaments instead. Not the end of the world and an easy tradeoff for a club looking to be accepted into ECNL. The following year, limit showcases to the top X clubs per conference and then the others that don't qualify go instead to the big open tourneys instead of showcases.

Zero reason to refuse new club additions that will improve leagues and shorten average travel time just because of showcase field space. That's a very solvable problem.
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Dilution dilution dilution......not going to happen.....talent was spread too thin before....for the last time, if you don't want to drive for ECNL.....then play local.....
 
The Outlaw said:
Can you be on a soccer field without getting shot at in Oakland, Richmond or Vallejo? Maybe if California stopped treating criminals like victims and kept scum locked up where they belong, we could have clubs there, Dre.

P.S. - Those 3 cities are all within a 1 hour drive from Rage, Mustang, Davis and Marin FC.
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Of course you can. Baseball, football, and basketball have for several years. I remember De La Salle and Serra (Tom Brady) coming to the hood for games back in the days.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Word is that there will be no soccer at least until 2021. All the sanctioning bodies would not be able to get insurance at a normal cost until 2021 at the earliest. Like others have said there may be some clubs that will likely no longer exist when all this is done.
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Do clubs have insurance for the normal flu influenza? Do normal businesses have this type of insurance? This cant be true....
 
futboldad1 said:
Dilution dilution dilution......not going to happen.....talent was spread too thin before....for the last time, if you don't want to drive for ECNL.....then play local.....
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Doubt it is the last time, for any of us..

Playing local is fine for two of my kids. For the third, I don’t want to be the jerk who puts a high level kid into a medium level game.
 
timmyh said:
Zero reason to refuse new club additions that will improve leagues and shorten average travel time just because of showcase field space. That's a very solvable problem.
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ECNL doesn't need to accept DA clubs to make the league stronger. DA players will be scrambling to find ECNL clubs to join so all the best talent will be in ECNL anyway. Why bring in a bunch of new clubs and maintain the current level of dilution when they have an opportunity to truly make a league with ALL of the strongest teams. I see no reason that they would need to admit Legends (for obvious reasons) or Beach. Been a big fan of Beach for many years and I thought they should have been a shoe in before the DA. The DA came in and changed the landscape and created rivals between clubs that were more than fighting for the same talent. Now ECNL comes out on top and the losers expect to just get an invitation with open arms? Why? When those players will find their way over anyway..
 
El Clasico said:
ECNL doesn't need to accept DA clubs to make the league stronger. DA players will be scrambling to find ECNL clubs to join so all the best talent will be in ECNL anyway. Why bring in a bunch of new clubs and maintain the current level of dilution when they have an opportunity to truly make a league with ALL of the strongest teams. I see no reason that they would need to admit Legends (for obvious reasons) or Beach. Been a big fan of Beach for many years and I thought they should have been a shoe in before the DA. The DA came in and changed the landscape and created rivals between clubs that were more than fighting for the same talent. Now ECNL comes out on top and the losers expect to just get an invitation with open arms? Why? When those players will find their way over anyway..
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There has to be somebody who has a daughter with either beach or legends DA in this forum, what are those clubs saying?
 
wc_baller said:
Nope.... I live on the peninsula, in one of the wealthiest zip codes in the country, and definitely not a princess. Just know an asshole when I see one. Hello, asshole.
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Most of the high crime area’s in the bay area have been gentrified. Many moons ago, when I was in high school East Palo Alto had the highest per capita murder rate in the USA. For a while it was a fairly common occurrence to see Stanford students on University Ave.(EPA side) buying crack/cocaine. Not now though!
 
futboldad1 said:
Dilution dilution dilution......not going to happen.....talent was spread too thin before....for the last time, if you don't want to drive for ECNL.....then play local.....
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Bringing those couple dozen clubs listed previously in this thread from the Soccer wire top 40 is the exact opposite of dilution. It's consolidation of the best talent, making your league better, and reducing league game travel time.

Excluding them because you don't have field space for a showcase is a problem that can be easily solved. Makes me think it is just an excuse for keeping them out for political or money motivations from existing clubs with influence.
 
soccer4us said:
Good points. It will be less up north. Looking at the map, it seems Marin is closest to those first 2 cities. I used to live in Nor Cal about 6 years ago so I can attest lots of the top clubs up there are in medium to very wealthy areas.

Right or wrong, these elite leagues in soccer will often be in well off areas on the girls side. At least it many cases it appears that way
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I never considered Marin. What’s their reputation? Style of play?
 
Copa9 said:
All of the comments may become irrelevant for EVERYONE! There probably won't be a soccer season this fall (club, high school, college or professional). If the virus continues there might not be a lot of clubs even in existence by this time next year. Anyone who thinks there will be showcases in November or December need to read the literature on this virus. Soccer is a contact sport. Even if there aren't people watching the game, players who have no symptoms can spread the virus to other players, parents, siblings and friends. Time will tell. Hope for the best and plan for the worst, even if the government didn't .
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Rumor is teams in TX and FL may possibly start training in May. Not saying it is true but there is talk.. but then each state governor could shut it down again.
 
El Clasico said:
ECNL doesn't need to accept DA clubs to make the league stronger. DA players will be scrambling to find ECNL clubs to join so all the best talent will be in ECNL anyway. Why bring in a bunch of new clubs and maintain the current level of dilution when they have an opportunity to truly make a league with ALL of the strongest teams. I see no reason that they would need to admit Legends (for obvious reasons) or Beach. Been a big fan of Beach for many years and I thought they should have been a shoe in before the DA. The DA came in and changed the landscape and created rivals between clubs that were more than fighting for the same talent. Now ECNL comes out on top and the losers expect to just get an invitation with open arms? Why? When those players will find their way over anyway..
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I think you underestimate the value of friendships and team chemistry.

Even if the top players individually move, you may have lost what made it a top team.
 
chiefs said:
Do clubs have insurance for the normal flu influenza? Do normal businesses have this type of insurance? This cant be true....
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Insurance in the general sense excluded communicable disease, pandemic and virus. You can thank SARS for that. Writng a policy to cover that would be very cost prohibitive for everyone. Insurance companies do not actuarial underwrite for events like this.
 
MacDre said:
I never considered Marin. What’s their reputation? Style of play?
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It's been awhile since I lived in Nor Cal so I don't know where their club is present day. 5 years ago I had an a 14 year old playing in Sacramento region, they were a top 10 club in NC I'd say. Not at level of Mustang, MVLA and San Juan, but in that next group of clubs. We played them a few times and from what I recall they played decent brand of soccer in terms of possession, attacking, etc. I believe they were in their first year of ECNL this current year.
 
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