Multiple friends there. Different reasons. Mostly georgraphic and if your kid is on a great team with friends then you bite the bullet. Like any large organization there are good and bad people there. No different than any other club. But if you have ever dealt with Grace and Mauricio, then you will know that the top of the organization is rotten to the core. People are aware of that but try to just do what is best for their child regardless of the operators of the club.
Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA
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From the Spot
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Maybe one placed in ECRL?
Not true: "Athletic scholarships will be guaranteed for four years for student-athletes in all sports "
Pac-12 universities adopt sweeping reforms for student-athletes, guaranteeing scholarships, improving health care, and more
Sweeping reforms for student-athletes, including guaranteed four-year athletic scholarships, continuing education, improved health care, liberalized transfer rules, and more, were adopted today by the Pac-12 Conference in a vote of the presidents and chancellors of the Conference’s 12 member...
wheresourfield
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BOYS = ECNL
GIRLS = ECRL
The two schools that have cancelled soccer so far, cinci and valpo, said they would honor scholarships
RedCard
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ECNL takes it’s time in announcing new members. It’s like every other day a member or two get announced.
soccerfan123
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No. Boys keep it, but girls side were not accepted.
Lionel Hutz
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Reading the Pats announcement -- it looks like their girls teams will compete in the ECRL with. That email and the quote from Lavers says that ECRL will be a "competition-based measurement for club membership into ECNL".
It will be interesting to see how this works. Does the club get promoted to ECNL? Is there relegation? What other teams are in ECRL?
It will be interesting to see how this works. Does the club get promoted to ECNL? Is there relegation? What other teams are in ECRL?
Well mine is from personnel experience. Just telling you to get it up front all four years in writing. Nothing more will be said unless you are you know who and I am PM'd.Not true: "Athletic scholarships will be guaranteed for four years for student-athletes in all sports "
Pac-12 universities adopt sweeping reforms for student-athletes, guaranteeing scholarships, improving health care, and more
Sweeping reforms for student-athletes, including guaranteed four-year athletic scholarships, continuing education, improved health care, liberalized transfer rules, and more, were adopted today by the Pac-12 Conference in a vote of the presidents and chancellors of the Conference’s 12 member...pac-12.com
futboldad1
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Just because something has happened that way before does not mean it is like that always.....in the south-west I'll happily take your money if you want to bet on other clubs being announced for next season...........
RedCard
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Major League Soccer launches youth competition platform
Major League Soccer is launch a new elite youth competition platform.
www.soccerwire.com
There are a bunch of you tube videos on ACL prevention for soccer players. I ended up with a pretty simple exercise program for my DD. Our rule is that if you want to play, then its 3-4 times a week for the ACL program. That's what DD would be doing post- ACL surgery (and alot more), so if she wants to play 3-4 times a week is a requirement. I see myself as responsible to her 25-year old self, too.
Simisoccerfan
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ECRL for girls.
Surf Zombie
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The two MA DA clubs, NEFC & South Shore Select are not getting in. 16th team coming to the North East conference from the southern end, either PA or MD.
Messi>CR7
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On the boys ECNL side, it was specifically stated in Arsenal's letter to parents that there will be promotion/relegation between the tiers going forward. We will have to see if this will indeed apply to the girls.
Currently (19-20 season) ECRL consists of the B teams of each of the ECNL SW clubs. However, the AZ teams did not participate, and Heat is only in U15. They indeed kept it "Regional", so that was a good thing.
I think this is a good decision by Pats to go with ECRL vs trying to join others (rumor only) to form another closed league.
That’s fine. Make your decisions based on how you want youth soccer to be, instead of how it is. If you want to file an antitrust claim against ECNL,
go for it. If you think Albion or some other second rate club your kid’s best path to Stanford, ok. In reality, ECNL’s “sophistry” has important legal and practical consequences. Specifically, it gets what it wants and you don’t. You can argue all you want, it doesn’t change what is.
What are you hoping to accomplish here? Catharsis that other dumb people share your self-pity?
Already for the insults?
As I said. I am trying to decide whether to bite the bullet and quit the sport for safety reasons. You guys run a meat grinder, and all you seem to care about is who gets to turn the crank.
From an athletic article an hour ago:
While MLS fans will be focused on the structure of the professional academies, the impact of the DA’s demise will be felt most acutely among the non-professional academies that made up the majority of the DA on both the girls’ and boys’ side.
In the 24 hours since U.S. Soccer’s decision to shutter the DA became more widely known, clubs have started to examine what their future will look like and where they can compete. ECNL president Christian Lavers said he has received hundreds of emails, texts and phone calls from clubs trying to determine next steps. The organization, which was widely seen as offering top competitive girls’ youth league in the country, has already added 14 former boys’ DA clubs to its membership of more than 100 clubs nationwide. The girls’ league already added several top clubs in recent months and announced the addition of two more clubs on Wednesday. Lavers said he anticipates substantially increasing the size of the league to accommodate more additions.
“This is an opportunity to unite some of the fractured past of soccer, with the ability to bring teams under one umbrella or one competitive framework that was not possible in the past,” Lavers said. “Certainly it’s not going to happen overnight, and probably not going to fully happen in one cycle, because we’re talking about a large number of clubs that are looking for now a different competitive platform. We are looking at how many clubs can we add and still continue to provide great service to members, still provide a coherent competitive schedule in terms of amount of games and travel, and work to add as many clubs as we can without destabilizing our program.”
Lavers said he has been in touch with leadership at U.S. Soccer about the potential structure of the league as well as about increasing the opportunity for coaching education and player development in conjunction with the federation. He called those talks “really positive.” Lavers said the ECNL’s goal is to create a more collaborative approach with directors of coaching and grassroots leaders at clubs across the country to create “an elite player pathway under one umbrella, all playing each other and not weaponizing league spots or tiering as a recruiting tool.”
Another focus for ECNL is on lowering the cost of playing. One way to directly impact those costs is to decrease travel, Lavers said, and he said he hopes the infusion of clubs into the ECNL will enhance local rivalries and decrease the amount of travel while maintaining high-level games for all teams. Lavers said the former DA clubs who are joining ECNL have agreed to play the existing ECNL clubs, a positive first step in breaking down “the barriers of who will play who.” He said he was not sure yet if the USSF had plans to continue its scholarship program that was used to help fund players across the Development Academy.
Lavers said there is a difference between the pro academies and the non-pro academies, but that he hopes to increase opportunity for players across the country and create a broader connection between the pro teams and the youth prospects at clubs around the country. He said the ECNL would not restrict its clubs from scheduling games against pro academies, as long as they give priority to ECNL scheduling.
“MLS teams are going to be scheduling games against clubs in our leagues,” Lavers said. “It may be different from one MLS club to another. We are very open to facilitating that to the degree that we can. I had some quick conversations with one MLS club already saying whether you want this to be a formal or informal arrangement, top teams (from the ECNL) or representative teams of top players from multiple teams (in the ECNL). We’d facilitate that. You want the best players to be seen by pro clubs, so if there is the potential for a pro pathway that player is not lost in the shuffle.”
Lavers said the Development Academy helped to fundamentally alter some key aspects of youth development in this country. But he added that those changes need to be buttressed by other improvements that enhance competition throughout the country, not just within certain leagues or certain tiers.
“When the DA was created in 2007, there were systemic issues of too many games and not enough meaningful games and not enough training sessions,” he said. “There was a philosophical change and it took time to grow, but that has been a positive impact of what that (DA) program did. But as it grew and as things changed, the clubs began to be distanced from each other and you started to have situations where clubs were not able to and would not play each other, even if they were in the same city or close by. That’s not a great thing for competition. It’s not a great thing to have kids drive past each other just because the structures don’t allow them to play. The challenge now is to create a collaborative program.”
While MLS fans will be focused on the structure of the professional academies, the impact of the DA’s demise will be felt most acutely among the non-professional academies that made up the majority of the DA on both the girls’ and boys’ side.
In the 24 hours since U.S. Soccer’s decision to shutter the DA became more widely known, clubs have started to examine what their future will look like and where they can compete. ECNL president Christian Lavers said he has received hundreds of emails, texts and phone calls from clubs trying to determine next steps. The organization, which was widely seen as offering top competitive girls’ youth league in the country, has already added 14 former boys’ DA clubs to its membership of more than 100 clubs nationwide. The girls’ league already added several top clubs in recent months and announced the addition of two more clubs on Wednesday. Lavers said he anticipates substantially increasing the size of the league to accommodate more additions.
“This is an opportunity to unite some of the fractured past of soccer, with the ability to bring teams under one umbrella or one competitive framework that was not possible in the past,” Lavers said. “Certainly it’s not going to happen overnight, and probably not going to fully happen in one cycle, because we’re talking about a large number of clubs that are looking for now a different competitive platform. We are looking at how many clubs can we add and still continue to provide great service to members, still provide a coherent competitive schedule in terms of amount of games and travel, and work to add as many clubs as we can without destabilizing our program.”
Lavers said he has been in touch with leadership at U.S. Soccer about the potential structure of the league as well as about increasing the opportunity for coaching education and player development in conjunction with the federation. He called those talks “really positive.” Lavers said the ECNL’s goal is to create a more collaborative approach with directors of coaching and grassroots leaders at clubs across the country to create “an elite player pathway under one umbrella, all playing each other and not weaponizing league spots or tiering as a recruiting tool.”
Another focus for ECNL is on lowering the cost of playing. One way to directly impact those costs is to decrease travel, Lavers said, and he said he hopes the infusion of clubs into the ECNL will enhance local rivalries and decrease the amount of travel while maintaining high-level games for all teams. Lavers said the former DA clubs who are joining ECNL have agreed to play the existing ECNL clubs, a positive first step in breaking down “the barriers of who will play who.” He said he was not sure yet if the USSF had plans to continue its scholarship program that was used to help fund players across the Development Academy.
Lavers said there is a difference between the pro academies and the non-pro academies, but that he hopes to increase opportunity for players across the country and create a broader connection between the pro teams and the youth prospects at clubs around the country. He said the ECNL would not restrict its clubs from scheduling games against pro academies, as long as they give priority to ECNL scheduling.
“MLS teams are going to be scheduling games against clubs in our leagues,” Lavers said. “It may be different from one MLS club to another. We are very open to facilitating that to the degree that we can. I had some quick conversations with one MLS club already saying whether you want this to be a formal or informal arrangement, top teams (from the ECNL) or representative teams of top players from multiple teams (in the ECNL). We’d facilitate that. You want the best players to be seen by pro clubs, so if there is the potential for a pro pathway that player is not lost in the shuffle.”
Lavers said the Development Academy helped to fundamentally alter some key aspects of youth development in this country. But he added that those changes need to be buttressed by other improvements that enhance competition throughout the country, not just within certain leagues or certain tiers.
“When the DA was created in 2007, there were systemic issues of too many games and not enough meaningful games and not enough training sessions,” he said. “There was a philosophical change and it took time to grow, but that has been a positive impact of what that (DA) program did. But as it grew and as things changed, the clubs began to be distanced from each other and you started to have situations where clubs were not able to and would not play each other, even if they were in the same city or close by. That’s not a great thing for competition. It’s not a great thing to have kids drive past each other just because the structures don’t allow them to play. The challenge now is to create a collaborative program.”
Hired Gun
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Slammers was in the first year...
The article has links that then go into greater detail on the boys pathway versus the girls pathway.
Pats Boys = ECNL
Pats Girls = ECRL