Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

[lionsalpha]

This is clearly an emotional topic for you. I apologize for hurting your feelings. My experience directly and indirectly with beach have been terrible. But nothing I post is dishonest. I feel sorry for the children and families effected by the end of the DA. 99% of the DA kids will be fine and land on their feet. These posts are nothing but entertainment for me in a bleak world right now. You are happy with Beach and that is good for you. Even my friends with kids on the Beach DA teams do not like Beach or the way it treats its kids. I'm glad you had a different experience. All the best.

Seems as though you have something against the club Poker. Parents like @Kicker4Life and I just loved our DD’s enjoying the sport and getting better at it.
If you and those “parents” do not like Beach no reason to stay. It’s pointless

 

[EOTL]

Ji

Just wondering. Where is your dd going to college?

As I have said before, I never discuss my kid(s) here. My self-esteem does not depend upon on how good they are at soccer. If anyone can’t figure out whether I know what I’m talking about, that is not my concern.

 

[MakeAPlay]

Believe the SEC has as well, at least that is what those documents say for women’s soccer signees.

i would think that all of the Power 5 conferences would move in that direction.

 

[wc_baller]

i would think that all of the Power 5 conferences would move in that direction.

The Power-5 implemented this rule back in 2015. All athletic scholarships in the P5 are guaranteed.

The Facts About “Guaranteed” Multi-year NCAA DI Scholarships

NCAA Compliance Expert Rick Allen provides important facts about the new NCAA Division I rule which has the effect of “protecting” Division I student-athletes from having their athletic scholarship cancelled or not renewed for any athletic performance reason.

informedathlete.com

 

[GeekKid]

Working off the Soccer Wire top 100 list, here are the remaining top 40 girls clubs who are not in the ECNL:


1. Top Hat (GA)
5. FC Dallas (TX)
8. Legends (CA)
9. Beach (CA)
10. Earthquakes (CA)
16. FC Virginia (VA)
25. NEFC (MA)
26. Sporting Blue Valley (KS)
28. Cincinnati Development Academy (OH)
29. Lone Star (TX)
32.South Shore Select (MA)
35. LA Galaxy
37. Nationals (MI)
39. Charlotte Soccer Academy (NC)

Will be very surprised if Top Hat & FC Dallas are not admitted.

Just saw part of an email to FC Dallas families that stated the following...

"The US Soccer Federation has just informed FC Dallas that they will cease operating the Development Academy for both boys and girls.

While we are disappointed at the news, FC Dallas has taken the proactive steps to return to the ECNL. Based on our club history and track record we are looking forward to return."

 

[espola]

The Power-5 implemented this rule back in 2015. All athletic scholarships in the P5 are guaranteed.

The Facts About “Guaranteed” Multi-year NCAA DI Scholarships

NCAA Compliance Expert Rick Allen provides important facts about the new NCAA Division I rule which has the effect of “protecting” Division I student-athletes from having their athletic scholarship cancelled or not renewed for any athletic performance reason.

informedathlete.com

Even if they drop the sport?

 

[SouthBayFutbol]

... Because the clubs that did all the work and put all the money in have no incentive to let those that didn’t enjoy the benefit of hard work and financial risk taking. Because the clubs that didn’t do the hard work and take the financial risks have no entitlement to anything. Because clubs like Surf, Blues and Slammers have already proven they develop talent and provide value, and they don’t care how much people who aren’t willing to pay for it whine.

Sorry if I am misunderstanding this but under what parameters has Beach and Legends not done "all the work" and are not "willing to pay" as it pertains to youth soccer in Southern California? Both of these clubs have built tremendous nationally recognized brands without the benefit of an ENCL monopoly that existed before DA. I would compare their Coaching line-up and college (and YNT) placements with any in the country so check development off the list too that the teams you listed have over them. And they had the audacity to promote the league they were joining!? Oh the horror, no other club has ever done that...

If the rumors are true that politics are keeping top DA teams from joining, it certainly takes the "E" out of ECNL. You would think they would want to play the best teams around. Isn't that what drives our girls, the competition? What are they afraid of? Seems like chicken sh!t to me...

 

[wc_baller]

Even if they drop the sport?

The rules state that a scholarship can only be cancelled if the athlete does the following:

• Is ruled to be ineligible for competition;
• Provides fraudulent information on an application, letter of intent, or financial aid agreement;
• Engages in serious misconduct that rises to the level of being disciplined by the university’s regular student disciplinary board;
• Voluntarily quits their team; or
• Violates a university policy or rule which is not related to athletic conditions or ability (such as a university policy on class attendance, or an athletic department policy regarding proper conduct on a team trip).

 

[outside!]

You did not say that she was playing in the U17 or U20 Women's World Cup so why was something focused on an international/professional track necessary? My kid is a pro now and she played high school soccer as did all of her teammates (Rose Lavelle and Andi Sullivan are two of them) and it didn't seem to hurt their experience and actually seems to have enhanced it.

I think your daughter's success has a lot more to do with her than any team, league or who she played with and against. All of that other stuff helped, but she was born as a top athlete with a drive to succeed and not much could have held her back short of mistreatment by adults.

 

[Surf Zombie]

Just saw part of an email to FC Dallas families that stated the following...

"The US Soccer Federation has just informed FC Dallas that they will cease operating the Development Academy for both boys and girls.

While we are disappointed at the news, FC Dallas has taken the proactive steps to return to the ECNL. Based on our club history and track record we are looking forward to return."

You expecting anyone else from TX-OK area back in?

 

[Simisoccerfan]

The Power-5 implemented this rule back in 2015. All athletic scholarships in the P5 are guaranteed.

The Facts About “Guaranteed” Multi-year NCAA DI Scholarships

NCAA Compliance Expert Rick Allen provides important facts about the new NCAA Division I rule which has the effect of “protecting” Division I student-athletes from having their athletic scholarship cancelled or not renewed for any athletic performance reason.

informedathlete.com

Unsure if my dd's school provides the guarantee but I heard there is an appeal's process that almost always results in the scholarship continuing at the same level. Also even with guarantees there is no guarantee of play time nor does it stop a coach from encouraging players to hit the transfer portal if they want more minutes.

 

[oh canada]

Just saw part of an email to FC Dallas families that stated the following...

"The US Soccer Federation has just informed FC Dallas that they will cease operating the Development Academy for both boys and girls.

While we are disappointed at the news, FC Dallas has taken the proactive steps to return to the ECNL. Based on our club history and track record we are looking forward to return."

if true, at least there is no complete BS to their families like, "we have been evaluating this for 6 months..."

 

[Ellejustus]

Legends and Beach are find. Get your Cali league and we will all play against each other somehow. I will make sure that happens. Plus, you can always apply for next year. Be nice to those in your sand box. You guys still have awesome teams and you can still sell development and college access. The only thing you can;t sell now is access to The List. No big deal and all will be find. For the record and I say this from my heart, I believe Legends and Beach should have had a chance to join for 2020-20121 season. I wanted to see that. Life is not fare!!!

 

[sdklutz]

competing with ECNL clubs for revenue.

If that was true, Surf would be left out...but that didn't happen.

 

[dad4]

“No time for loooosers...”. But thanks for replying to all my posts because it ensures that the GDA mafiosos who blocked me still receive the benefit of my wisdom.

In other words,

“No time for loooosers...”. But thanks for replying to all my posts because it ensures that the GDA mafiosos who blocked me still receive the benefit of my wisdom.

In other words, you know several girls who tore their ACL, but never cared enough to look into how many kids at your club get permanent joint problems so you can make a buck.

But you DO care about the winner in the DA/ECNL pissing contest.

Congrats, ECNL. Now, about those injuries....

From what I have seen, it averages about one or two per team per year. More if you include concussions. Your child is more likely to have a permanent injury than get a full ride scholarship.

And ECNL/your club cares about injuries about as much as EOTL.

 

[pokergod]

Seems as though you have something against the club Poker. Parents like @Kicker4Life and I just loved our DD’s enjoying the sport and getting better at it.
If you and those “parents” do not like Beach no reason to stay. It’s pointless

I agree with you. But I think this forum is for people to post issues they have with clubs. False statements have no place and I have avoided that. I have attacked the system in general too.

 

[dad4]

If that was true, Surf would be left out...but that didn't happen.

They dont want to leave out someone who can be the core of a competing league.

Overall goal is to limit competition. Same as DA.

 

[Kicker4Life]

This is clearly an emotional topic for you. I apologize for hurting your feelings. My experience directly and indirectly with beach have been terrible. But nothing I post is dishonest. I feel sorry for the children and families effected by the end of the DA. 99% of the DA kids will be fine and land on their feet. These posts are nothing but entertainment for me in a bleak world right now. You are happy with Beach and that is good for you. Even my friends with kids on the Beach DA teams do not like Beach or the way it treats its kids. I'm glad you had a different experience. All the best.

Why did your friends stick with Beach if they don’t like the Club?

Can’t deny that the communication come of from the Club has been nonexistent to extremely poor. I will agree with you there.

 

[Dof3]

I hope that Legends and Beach will be added to ECNL SW. If not this year then certainly next year. They put good teams on the field. And I would surely prefer to go to San Diego than Phoenix for regular games. Same for FC Dallas and TopHat. You have to beat the best to claim you are the best. That goes for all of these clubs. But I can't help but wonder if the DA contingent here would be complaining that DA wasn't opening its doors for all the ECNL clubs if ECNL self-immolated today. It is really pathetic for an organization that is supposed to be the steward of this sport to have behaved so incompetently for kids at a time when those kids are trapped at home in an actual crisis. Who among us would still have a job if we executed the way US Soccer has this week? But, again, where was the DA contingent's outrage when not so long ago the message to ECNL kids was come to the DA or it will adversely affect your shot at the YNT? Who trades on a kid's dreams for personal gain and spitefulness? Should any of us be surprised that an organization that would do that to kids would be so low as they have been to end their league in this fashion?

 

[Copa9]

It couldn't be more ironic that Boys ECNL came about because of the Girls DA and the GDA threatened the very existence of the ECNL. And now, DA has ended and ECNL not only is back on top but now adds a whole viable boys division all set up. Karma's a bitch.
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I'd like to hear how this worked out in 4-7 years. As some one looking in the rearview mirror (hindsight being 20/20) my daughter played ECNL when it was the top of the pyramid and it still allowed her to be a teenager with a life. She also graduate from high school with a 4.7 gpa and just graduated magna cum laude from a top 25 academic university a year early. I said from the beginning of the GDA (go check the threads if you have time) that it was going to fail miserably. It has. GDA was never necessary. As you said your daughter is going to a dotp D1 school. You did not say that she was playing in the U17 or U20 Women's World Cup so why was something focused on an international/professional track necessary? My kid is a pro now and she played high school soccer as did all of her teammates (Rose Lavelle and Andi Sullivan are two of them) and it didn't seem to hurt their experience and actually seems to have enhanced it. You will find out very soon that college soccer, even at the top levels, is more like high school soccer than club soccer. Kids that aren't used to playing with players that are older, craftier and/or more physical than them are in for a big surprise.

Please bookmark this post as you will be either calling me Nostradamus or disappearing completely from the forums (as have all but a few forum members like me from the old days that remember all of this and have been around long enough to have a birdseye view of what is going on).

Good luck to you and your player.
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