G2010 - How’s the 2022 season going?

[HE>I]

Thanks for clarifying the story. I did not know the full version of the story.

No worries, sorry if I came off as an ass but Alex made up all kinds of stuff to try and save himself and bashed others in the process, but the truth always comes out eventually and those close to the situation know exactly what happened. Shame that team broke up, but he did everything in his power to destroy it once we stood up to him. If everyone just kept it 100 parents, coaches, docs, managers etc the game would be so much better. Sometimes the truth hurts but if you’re honest with everyone you don’t have to worry about it coming back to haunt you.

 

[Chalklines]

Blues never had GM when I was there, but that was Tads team. He never played that game and I think he might be the only one. You need support from parents but when you start sending "dad" out to find you better players, that can cause big problems. Bruh, the head Director at the Training Center in SD offered my dd 5 freaking candy bars if she was able to secure a future YNT invitee mothers phone number at her one and only invite. I kid you not. Dude even asked me later if I would be willing to give the player a ride. It never happen because I was pissed off and called the Doc out and of course my little girl was never invited back to the grooming center. She failed the test. Oh well, you live and learn, right?

The minute you call the coach out and especially after you call the DOC out for letting something happen its over for your kid unless your coming with cash in hand.

Solutions to END the drama :

-Coaches caught in the bars and or restaurants with parents during a tournament will be terminated

-Coaches talking to parents at games and practices with out a documented Grievance will be terminated

-Coaches are required to recruit or the club should open a new paid position for scouting. NO PARENT GENERAL MANAGERS*

-No private training sessions unless they are free and open to everyone on the team

-Private training is fine if you are not coaching the player or any family member on your designated team(s)

-Club will over see team chats and the coaches individual email account. No personal cell phone numbers are to be given out. NO TEXTING WITH PARENTS.

-Coaches are not to have intimate relationships with any parent on their team (Say parent since were all woke now)

-No Guest Players from other clubs for ALL ECNL levels. You committed to your roster coach. Stick with it. Develop your team and Club. These parents paid to see their kids play. Play them!

-No Guesting or playing for multiple CLUB teams at ALL ECNL levels. (AKA: The WALTER Rule)

-If you want to play organized Futsal, great. Do so at the RL level since you lack first team commitment.

-Empty season roster spots will be given to ECRL players. This will prevent club hoppers at the highest level.

-In season transfers must play for the RL team for 90 days before being moved up.

-Team Captains are chosen by the team not the coach.

-Coaches will be transparent with how many scholarship players are on their roster and who is paying for player X.

-So parents can calm the fuck down, ECNL and ECRL should have unlimited subs. I understand youth soccer's a cash grab. You cant ask a club to cap an 11v11 roster with less numbers. They want and need club dues to stay in business. Just change the substitution rule. The immediate impact that one rule will make fixes 80 to 90% of all these teams problems. Of course parents will be heated when their kid whos a starter gets subbed for lesser talent. NL & RL subs are the kiss of death since the player is done for the half.

-*The non parent GM should be a no brainer. No Johnny you're not helping the team get better. You are telling everyone and the coach player X sucks and you are causing divide among the parents.

 

[crush]

The minute you call the coach out and especially after you call the DOC out for letting something happen its over for your kid unless your coming with cash in hand.

Solutions to END the drama :

-Coaches caught in the bars and or restaurants with parents during a tournament will be terminated

-Coaches talking to parents at games and practices with out a documented Grievance will be terminated

-Coaches are required to recruit or the club should open a new paid position for scouting. NO PARENT GENERAL MANAGERS*

-No private training sessions unless they are free and open to everyone on the team

-Private training is fine if you are not coaching the player or any family member on your designated team(s)

-Club will over see team chats and the coaches individual email account. No personal cell phone numbers are to be given out. NO TEXTING WITH PARENTS.

-Coaches are not to have intimate relationships with any parent on their team (Say parent since were all woke now)

-No Guest Players from other clubs for ALL ECNL levels. You committed to your roster coach. Stick with it. Develop your team and Club. These parents paid to see their kids play. Play them!

-No Guesting or playing for multiple CLUB teams at ALL ECNL levels. (AKA: The WALTER Rule)

-If you want to play organized Futsal, great. Do so at the RL level since you lack first team commitment.

-Empty season roster spots will be given to ECRL players. This will prevent club hoppers at the highest level.

-In season transfers must play for the RL team for 90 days before being moved up.

-Team Captains are chosen by the team not the coach.

-Coaches will be transparent with how many scholarship players are on their roster and who is paying for player X.

-So parents can calm the fuck down, ECNL and ECRL should have unlimited subs. I understand youth soccer's a cash grab. You cant ask a club to cap an 11v11 roster with less numbers. They want and need club dues to stay in business. Just change the substitution rule. The immediate impact that one rule will make fixes 80 to 90% of all these teams problems. Of course parents will be heated when their kid whos a starter gets subbed for lesser talent. NL & RL subs are the kiss of death since the player is done for the half.

-*The non parent GM should be a no brainer. No Johnny you're not helping the team get better. You are telling everyone and the coach player X sucks and you are causing divide among the parents.

Wow, that's a lot to chew on ChaIk. I always said we need parents at the table to help fix all this and not the rich one's holding "cash" in their hands in the back room. What money and sex can buy you is not fair for those who are ugly and have no cash on hand to play, "pay for play."

 

[Carlsbad7]

The minute you call the coach out and especially after you call the DOC out for letting something happen its over for your kid unless your coming with cash in hand.

Solutions to END the drama :

-Coaches caught in the bars and or restaurants with parents during a tournament will be terminated

-Coaches talking to parents at games and practices with out a documented Grievance will be terminated

-Coaches are required to recruit or the club should open a new paid position for scouting. NO PARENT GENERAL MANAGERS*

-No private training sessions unless they are free and open to everyone on the team

-Private training is fine if you are not coaching the player or any family member on your designated team(s)

-Club will over see team chats and the coaches individual email account. No personal cell phone numbers are to be given out. NO TEXTING WITH PARENTS.

-Coaches are not to have intimate relationships with any parent on their team (Say parent since were all woke now)

-No Guest Players from other clubs for ALL ECNL levels. You committed to your roster coach. Stick with it. Develop your team and Club. These parents paid to see their kids play. Play them!

-No Guesting or playing for multiple CLUB teams at ALL ECNL levels. (AKA: The WALTER Rule)

-If you want to play organized Futsal, great. Do so at the RL level since you lack first team commitment.

-Empty season roster spots will be given to ECRL players. This will prevent club hoppers at the highest level.

-In season transfers must play for the RL team for 90 days before being moved up.

-Team Captains are chosen by the team not the coach.

-Coaches will be transparent with how many scholarship players are on their roster and who is paying for player X.

-So parents can calm the fuck down, ECNL and ECRL should have unlimited subs. I understand youth soccer's a cash grab. You cant ask a club to cap an 11v11 roster with less numbers. They want and need club dues to stay in business. Just change the substitution rule. The immediate impact that one rule will make fixes 80 to 90% of all these teams problems. Of course parents will be heated when their kid whos a starter gets subbed for lesser talent. NL & RL subs are the kiss of death since the player is done for the half.

-*The non parent GM should be a no brainer. No Johnny you're not helping the team get better. You are telling everyone and the coach player X sucks and you are causing divide among the parents.

Agree with all these. It gets frustrating watching all the cheapskates have their kid play for free when there’s paying players that are being overlooked on the 2nd teams.

One fyi that you might know is that Surf actually does have people that they pay to scout youth soccer teams for talent. Talked to the guy once + he seemed very nice. Not a bad way to spend your afternoons if you’re retired + like watching games.

 

[Chalklines]

Agree with all these. It gets frustrating watching all the cheapskates have their kid play for free when there’s paying players that are being overlooked on the 2nd teams.

One fyi that you might know is that Surf actually does have people that they pay to scout youth soccer teams for talent. Talked to the guy once + he seemed very nice. Not a bad way to spend your afternoons if you’re retired + like watching games.

Its a good system if the coach is not connected to any ODP or NT training center. It avoids the whole "sign with surf and you'll get @crush DD's roster invite"

 

[crush]

Agree with all these. It gets frustrating watching all the cheapskates have their kid play for free when there’s paying players that are being overlooked on the 2nd teams.

One fyi that you might know is that Surf actually does have people that they pay to scout youth soccer teams for talent. Talked to the guy once + he seemed very nice. Not a bad way to spend your afternoons if you’re retired + like watching games.

Clubs will soon have to hire "bar" scouts to make sure no late night drinking with coach. Booze + parent + coach + hotel + 12am=?

 

[crush]

Its a good system if the coach is not connected to any ODP or NT training center. It avoids the whole "sign with surf and you'll get @crush DD's roster invite"

Darn that hurts my soul but the truth does hurt.

 

[dad4]

Agree with all these. It gets frustrating watching all the cheapskates have their kid play for free when there’s paying players that are being overlooked on the 2nd teams.

One fyi that you might know is that Surf actually does have people that they pay to scout youth soccer teams for talent. Talked to the guy once + he seemed very nice. Not a bad way to spend your afternoons if you’re retired + like watching games.

”cheapskates who have their kid play for free?”

That goes too far for me. Some families have thousands of dollars to spend on sports, but some don’t. If you want your kid to play against the best, some of those kids are from scholarship families.

 

[Carlsbad7]

”cheapskates who have their kid play for free?”

That goes too far for me. Some families have thousands of dollars to spend on sports, but some don’t. If you want your kid to play against the best, some of those kids are from scholarship families.

I've seen scholarship families that dont have enough money for club fees but somehow have enough to pay for privates with the coach.

Also my experience has been that the scholarship parents are often club shoppers/hoppers.

 

[Chalklines]

”cheapskates who have their kid play for free?”

That goes too far for me. Some families have thousands of dollars to spend on sports, but some don’t. If you want your kid to play against the best, some of those kids are from scholarship families.

Perfect but teams still need to be transparent. That way when the family claiming income below poverty level shows up in a new $80k car they can be held accountable and forced to pay.

 

[crush]

I've seen scholarship families that dont have enough money for club fees but somehow have enough to pay for privates with the coach.

Also my experience has been that the scholarship parents are often club shoppers/hoppers.

I thought you had to pay to play until u12. It wasn't until the GDA started that I was sold "fully funded" by four top clubs in Socal. We hopped around a few times and were labeled club hoppers and dad shopping child around to win medals and I get that. I never shopped. I got recruited with phone calls and emails from Docs and Training Center Directors for US Soccer to invite my dd to this and that. I've heard it all. If you can ball and club wants to give scholarship away for soccer ability only, awesome.

 

[crush]

”cheapskates who have their kid play for free?”

That goes too far for me. Some families have thousands of dollars to spend on sports, but some don’t. If you want your kid to play against the best, some of those kids are from scholarship families.

I never asked for a "free handout" to any Doc. Never, ever did I ask and beg, "pretty, pretty please, I'm so poor and can't afford youth soccer and and all the travel. Please, please Doc, please comp my dd free soccer & travel because I'm poor." It was always, "our program gives away free rides to the top players and we want to invest in your dd." Stuff like that. It was never a financial aid deal or let me see your w2 and see if you qualify for financial help.

 

[Bri’s-DAD]

I've seen scholarship families that dont have enough money for club fees but somehow have enough to pay for privates with the coach.

Also my experience has been that the scholarship parents are often club shoppers/hoppers.

I don’t see the problem. If a kid is on scholarship that means she/he is an elite prospect. That same prospect could draw scouts to your team and get other kids noticed. Kids that need the free ride or not shouldn’t have to pay if they’re so talented that being there is a direct cause of wins and exposure for your team. That same kid can be a draw for recruiting as well. I understand if the scholarship player is taking mins from kids further down the roster but you gotta take the good with the bad.

I say this as a club fee paying parent. I’ve been hit with the “you’re late on your monthly payment” many times lol the soccer struggles are real.

 

[Carlsbad7]

I don’t see the problem. If a kid is on scholarship that means she/he is an elite prospect. That same prospect could draw scouts to your team and get other kids noticed. Kids that need the free ride or not shouldn’t have to pay if they’re so talented that being there is a direct cause of wins and exposure for your team. That same kid can be a draw for recruiting as well. I understand if the scholarship player is taking mins from kids further down the roster but you gotta take the good with the bad.

I say this as a club fee paying parent. I’ve been hit with the “you’re late on your monthly payment” many times lol the soccer struggles are real.

The scholarship players I've seen arent any better or worse than other players whos parents actually are paying.

If a scholarship player was that much better than everyone else then maybe. I haven't seen that, what I have seen is players from other clubs being lured away with free soccer. Basically coaches looking to shortcut development by stealing from others that actually are developing players.

 

[JustaSpectator]

I guess we’ll just have to see. If this player was causing chemistry issues then things should be fixed but looking at their roster on the ecnl app and it seems to be #18 that is missing. I think she was the center attacking mid. That’s a very important player. I hope they have the right player to replace that piece since that is the playmaker and responsible for assisting the forwards. One of the most important players on a team. Could make or break a team if the wrong person plays that position.

Yes, #18, the center attacking mid is the player who left Blue to Slammers Koge.

 

[Chalklines]

I don’t see the problem. If a kid is on scholarship that means she/he is an elite prospect. That same prospect could draw scouts to your team and get other kids noticed. Kids that need the free ride or not shouldn’t have to pay if they’re so talented that being there is a direct cause of wins and exposure for your team. That same kid can be a draw for recruiting as well. I understand if the scholarship player is taking mins from kids further down the roster but you gotta take the good with the bad.

I say this as a club fee paying parent. I’ve been hit with the “you’re late on your monthly payment” many times lol the soccer struggles are real.

There's no such thing as an elite prospect for any sport at U13. Who are you trying to fool?

You show me 1 player whos getting a free ride at 13 and ill show you 5, just as good if not better.

 

[dad4]

There's no such thing as an elite prospect for any sport at U13. Who are you trying to fool?

You show me 1 player whos getting a free ride at 13 and ill show you 5, just as good if not better.

NCAA begs to differ with you.

There are elite U13 prospects, and NCAA had to change the rules to keep colleges from signing them while they are still in middle school.

 

[Surfer_dad]

Sit this one out? Weather is horrible for Spring break. The Blues will be find. When I was roaming the Ranch way back, let me tell you about the good players I saw every night. Olivia, Alyssa, Simone, Trinity, Sophie, Josie, Reilyn, Riley, Julie, Ella and so many more. Don't you guys have a open pool policy for all the best of the best around the West Coast? You guys at Surf offer full rides, right? Legends, Slammers and the rest of the best also offer free play and travel and these top clubs know how to recruit when it counts. Blues does not offer anything free unless your dirt poor and at around this age, the deals for free rides comes knocking on the Blues players and that is why mass exodus occurs. My dd was offered free from 4 of the 6 top clubs in Socal because we were promised free soccer in the GDA for the best of the best, just like the boys.

Some soccer scholarships at Surf, but most pay to play at Surf.

 

[Surfer_dad]

Some soccer scholarships at Surf, but most pay to play at Surf.

PS, who lets weather get in the way of having a good time?

 

[crush]

Some soccer scholarships at Surf, but most pay to play at Surf.

Is it based on poverty & financial mistakes dad made in life and need based for past screw ups in life or can a "cheapo" dad get a free handout if he ask for one? I remember a time when my dd got a "free handout" in exchange for her goals, tough attitude and never say die attitude and then some GM Papi starting spreading shit & some 50/50 half & half truths about how poor I was, truly super poor dude and was out to make crush look like a "cheapo" or "cheapskate" father who acts poor only get the free soccer and then parties up on the road with steaks and unlimited drinks that one of the rich dads picks up for me. Not my fault. I saw those looks at the bar when folks thought I was a big bum of a dad and just a poor loser looking for those free goodies in youth soccer. Talk about looking in the dumpster for free stuff. I was the biggest cover up ever in youth soccer bro. A heads up: As the dd gets older and those B and C players grow, get faster and go all in soccer, then it becomes tougher to find the field. Warm sun is coming Friday. I'm going to the beach cave brother. Secret spot with a nice left and a killer salt water pool.