Some people hope for a train wreck. It’s not helpful. Eventually, we will drop this nonsense and go back to saying nice things about the kids.
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@CharlieMurfee you seem to know a lot about this team. A lot more than I do and I thought I was the one having the juice. Like I mention before I have a few sources from the top teams in So Cal but they been quiet lately not sharing any information. But you seem to have it all. My source is thinking you must be one of the parents on the team. The one with the kid on the bench that gets no play time.
Murf is on the know for sure. This is the time of year when most of the top parents ((top parents=parents with a GOAT)) have had to sign NDAs. STFU or you will lose your special deal. I was told by 3 Docs during this time of my dd youth career ways back to be quiet, STFU or no deal. I kept my mouth shut until the other side lied and broke their NDA....lol, that was 5 years ago
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This is correct… and the disfunction of this team is because of parents who want to be the GM… if parents can get out the way and let the kids play, this wouldn’t be a topic…
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Murf is on the know for sure. This is the time of year when most of the top parents ((top parents=parents with a GOAT)) have had to sign NDAs. STFU or you will lose your special deal. I was told by 3 Docs during this time of my dd youth career ways back to be quiet, STFU or no deal. I kept my mouth shut until the other side lied and broke their NDA....lol, that was 5 years ago
You make a very good point. I did not think about that. That’s why you are the wisest @crush You’ve been through it all and have seen it all.
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I just think it’s sad that your DD isn’t getting the help or support she deserves and am wondering WTH is going on..
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So let me get this straight. You are saying that a parent or two have hi jacked this team? They are the ones that control who plays and who does not play? That’s not what my source is saying. I was told that all players on that team need to earn their play time and perform. I was told that AR may have his opinion on who he considers are the soccer players on this team and who are the role players that are not even fulfilling their roles. He may be under a lot of pressure to win and that I may agree with you that whoever these so call GM parents are may have an influence over who stays on the field and who comes out based on the pressure to win. It seems that your kid is on the wrong team. Take her to a team where she can develop at her own pace and that is not really concerned about winning. From what I was told is that this team is trying to be the top team in the country . So if your kid is not working or producing like the rest, they are not a good fit. Blues are not a development program. They are always recruiting the best players to win games under their own creative freedom. Their is no structure like you see in Surf. They take more of a Brazilian approach to just letting them play and develop. Iron sharpens iron. So if your kid is not iron then she will not fit in. This coming from the mouth of my source. So don’t expect development at your kid’s pace. Show up and perform or find another team next season.
It's unfortunate to read some of the Blues parents responses.
Have played against + practiced with (a couple of times) the team through the years. My kid thought all the Blues girls were very nice and that they were very good as a team. Also, we both thought Abner was/is a very nice guy. Personally I thought it was interesting how soft spoken + laid back he is. Goes to show that you dont need to yell and scream at players to win.
But who knows, maybe being too soft spoken is why players are looking elsewhere. Maybe being nice is what certain parents are taking advantage of.
Just wanted to turn the thread around with some positivity + outside perspective. ;-)
Have played against + practiced with (a couple of times) the team through the years. My kid thought all the Blues girls were very nice and that they were very good as a team. Also, we both thought Abner was/is a very nice guy. Personally I thought it was interesting how soft spoken + laid back he is. Goes to show that you dont need to yell and scream at players to win.
But who knows, maybe being too soft spoken is why players are looking elsewhere. Maybe being nice is what certain parents are taking advantage of.
Just wanted to turn the thread around with some positivity + outside perspective. ;-)
Experience is the only way wisdom comes. The old days of recruiting (stealing) other teams top players can only work with a dad who can be GM and then would do all the work for you as coach. It's a gift. I was the GM in Temecula for 1 year back in the day and got a lot of hate because of splitting up the Legends South team and instead took our fire power up North. I was used as a pawn and never did it again. Car pooling was the key to pulling this off but it sure pissed off the locals and I wish I wasn't used like that. It was wrong and one of the few mistakes I made in youth soccer....lol. When she got to blues and Tad, I learned how insane and competitive the parents were and I decided to go solo and just focus on my baby goat and make sure she makes no excuse and works hard. Tad had no GM. He and Rob worked the fields and did recruiting the right way, moo. My dd worked hard and the team won all the time. The problem with this old GM model for coach is if coach pisses off his GM. GM Father can now take all the top goats, say bad things about the former coach (club) and preach and sell how amazing the new coach, club are and how "green" the greener pasture is. It's crazy.....
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Iron sharpens Iron is excellent analogy. If daddy is the one greasing the Iron, no bueno.
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Excellent point. I’m beginning to understand what is really going on here. I know a few of the parents on this team as well and we have met them up from down south to a few camps in OC to train with the Blues girls. It seems to be a problem of some parents expectations not aligning with other parents and AR’s inability to manage that because of him being too soft spoken and too quiet. I think this parent issue is an issue that many parents will face when trying to be on a top team. Unfortunately my DD does not play for any of these top teams so we don’t face that. We have our other issues. lol. I’ve heard similar stories from Surf parents and Eagles parents. But they don’t get publicized like they do here. This is the classic tale of a disgruntled parent not getting the play time he or she thinks his DD deserves vs parents who expect these kids to be at the same level of their kids and require performance. This leads to kids sitting on the bench. That’s why my advice to him is to find a less competitive environment where his DD does not have this kind of pressure. At the top. It’s a shark eat shark world. Capitalism at its finest. Survival of the fittest…
Kind of...
Abner being nice to the players is likely the only time of the day when their overly aggressive parents arent hounding them for performance/results.
I do agree that Blues are playing a very high level of soccer for 12yr old girls. If your kid isnt playing it might be time to move on. Theres lots of options in OC for players that want field time but arent getting it at Blues.
You might want to pull back on the Steel v Steel type comments. Playing at a high level often brings injuries. Say your kid breaks their leg + cant play for 6 months. In a true "Steel v Steel" environment this would mean your kid is now replaced + if the replacement is better your kid is off the team. These are children + not professionals. Going all in on competitiveness will cause more problems then it solves.
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This is very true about the GM father and this definitely has happened before. I think @TeamDadJokes can explain how a GM Father can take most players and move them to another team. He mentioned a similar scenario in the past. I think this also happened as well with that team that is now west coast 2010 team. GM father took them all to West Coast from coach Filipovic. I remember reading a story in the past. If AR did not recruit most of these players and the GM father did then it can definitely make or break a team if the situation is not resolved and worked out.
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I couldn’t agree with you more. But the reality is that it does not always happen that way. If someone is out for 6 or more months and can’t get back to the level after they return from injury. There is a good chance she or he won’t be part of the roster next season if they are not able to catch up and keep up.
Great point. My little one was way too small for some of the "Steel" and got hurt a few times from tougher steel. It did teach her to be brave, tough and fight for ball no matter how small you are and how weak your steel is......
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Parents only GM when the coach allows it. It's not stories you hear @SoccerSpoiler , but facts when it comes from so many mouths. All 4 of these 2010 teams are known across the board for being parent run.
Surf
Blues
Eagles
Slammers
All guilty. Thanks coaches.
I'll take it even one step further with these clubs coaches. Their predecessors all showed them the ways. After all, who could pass up a free vacation from Chuck, right?
I heard about attempted coup at a "house" meeting with the GM and parents who got the invite. GM dad tried to get the coach fired or take his crew elsewhere if his demands were not met. This was right before playoffs as well. Anyway, coach found another gm dad (really good dad and I mean that) and was able to save the day. Coup at a house is taking this way too far and he was able to keep all the players, minus the old GMs dd and her bff.
Blues never had GM when I was there, but that was Tads team. He never played that game and I think he might be the only one. You need support from parents but when you start sending "dad" out to find you better players, that can cause big problems. Bruh, the head Director at the Training Center in SD offered my dd 5 freaking candy bars if she was able to secure a future YNT invitee mothers phone number at her one and only invite. I kid you not. Dude even asked me later if I would be willing to give the player a ride. It never happen because I was pissed off and called the Doc out and of course my little girl was never invited back to the grooming center. She failed the test. Oh well, you live and learn, right?
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You should get your facts straight before you put things out there like that. Alex alone took the team to WC, we were all happy at Blues and loved that team but he convinced us all that the team was to good to be the second team and got everyone on board to join him as the new director at WC and lost that job in the process by being his shady self. He then wanted everyone to pull out after we were had decided to leave blues and go to WC. Most went to WC, but some didn’t as well. Feel free to hit me up and we can meet up but don’t put bullshit out there unless you know your facts.
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Thanks for clarifying the story. I did not know the full version of the story.