D1 college soccer under threat

No worries, did not take it that way at all. I agree with you regarding the way it is. Lots of missed opportunities in many areas. One thing is for sure, there is no shortage of engaged parents on here supporting their kids and doing what is right by them. That’s an amazing thing and never gets old.

On a side note, I gotta admit it’s been nice not having to chauffeur the kids around town to practice, events, rehearsals, and everything else. Its good to get a break now and again.
Yeah, kinda the silver lining of the whole thing. Both my girls home, we’re all having a lot of fun that we otherwise might not. Never played so much cards in my life!
 
I hate to admit but I agree. This is why I think all MLS teams should have a female side that plays before the men’s team. I think that would help tremendously.
Good idea, but I think they should switch off who plays first. Soccer is a relatively short game compared to football. If all games were double headers, there would be more time to sell concessions and beer.
 
Hey coach, do you think we should have a 2% goat league for youths over 15 and 100% funded with a clear pathway for YNT and Pros with a right or left turn option for college?


Nope. They tried it and it did not work on the girls side. It was called GDA. It was not effective on the boys side either or at a minimum did not achieve its goals

I think MLS and USL have the perfect opportunity to build a true academy system on the boys side. I wish the funding was there for an NWSL Academy on womens side but where does the money come from when the leagues are going to struggle to stay afloat.
 
Nope. They tried it and it did not work on the girls side. It was called GDA. It was not effective on the boys side either or at a minimum did not achieve its goals

I think MLS and USL have the perfect opportunity to build a true academy system on the boys side. I wish the funding was there for an NWSL Academy on womens side but where does the money come from when the leagues are going to struggle to stay afloat.
NWSL is a scam designed to save MLS money. So people can sing the where’s the money gonna come from song. All MLS teams need a women’s side.
 
Coach, are you saying that league called the GDA, was a league of ONLY the top 2%-5%?

No I am saying that is what they sold it as. We are a diverse and large country. The top 2-5% is spread out so thin it is impossible to consolidate the squads. You would need residence and school and infrastructure. An 04 Keeper in Vegas, 04 Winger in San Diego, 04 Striker in OC, 04 Defender in PHX all in one place? How? Now the players mentioned are just random and not mentioning any one individual except for the 04 Keeper from Vegas (she is badass). Even in the southwest which is one of the best regions for soccer talent it is so disperse. Who funds it?

@MacDre the MLS is going to struggle to survive for a bit how do you propose they fund the NWSL ( I agree women playing for men is a great idear). Not every MLS club has NWSL. The TV contracts of the MLS can not support the league much like the NBA TV contract helps fund the WNBA. I wish it were true but financially difficult unless you lower salaries for all across the board and the MLS CBA has not broken the MLS philosophy of closed market. I know a player who played in Spain professionally. She makes more a first year firefighter in Vegas.
 
No I am saying that is what they sold it as. We are a diverse and large country. The top 2-5% is spread out so thin it is impossible to consolidate the squads. You would need residence and school and infrastructure. An 04 Keeper in Vegas, 04 Winger in San Diego, 04 Striker in OC, 04 Defender in PHX all in one place? How? Now the players mentioned are just random and not mentioning any one individual except for the 04 Keeper from Vegas (she is badass). Even in the southwest which is one of the best regions for soccer talent it is so disperse. Who funds it?

@MacDre the MLS is going to struggle to survive for a bit how do you propose they fund the NWSL ( I agree women playing for men is a great idear). Not every MLS club has NWSL. The TV contracts of the MLS can not support the league much like the NBA TV contract helps fund the WNBA. I wish it were true but financially difficult unless you lower salaries for all across the board and the MLS CBA has not broken the MLS philosophy of closed market. I know a player who played in Spain professionally. She makes more a first year firefighter in Vegas.
First of all, the Keeper in Vegas is 100% badass and is the top GK according to my little one. Dam, she stopped two opportunities from my goat when we played that Heat team. I was trying to calm my little one down on the way home because she didn;t finish both shots and we tied again. I think Vegas, Utah and AZ should have two teams combined. It's more like maybe top 10% who think they can be top 2%. Socal can have four teams. Norcal 2. 8 team league fully funded. The rest play ECNL and GAL? I know it will never happen but I think it would be cool to dream about. The more girls playing soccer the better and I support the ECNL and the GAL. Maybe just get the goats together more often and no more, "my league is better than your league." Good talk coach
 
No I am saying that is what they sold it as. We are a diverse and large country. The top 2-5% is spread out so thin it is impossible to consolidate the squads. You would need residence and school and infrastructure. An 04 Keeper in Vegas, 04 Winger in San Diego, 04 Striker in OC, 04 Defender in PHX all in one place? How? Now the players mentioned are just random and not mentioning any one individual except for the 04 Keeper from Vegas (she is badass). Even in the southwest which is one of the best regions for soccer talent it is so disperse. Who funds it?

@MacDre the MLS is going to struggle to survive for a bit how do you propose they fund the NWSL ( I agree women playing for men is a great idear). Not every MLS club has NWSL. The TV contracts of the MLS can not support the league much like the NBA TV contract helps fund the WNBA. I wish it were true but financially difficult unless you lower salaries for all across the board and the MLS CBA has not broken the MLS philosophy of closed market. I know a player who played in Spain professionally. She makes more a first year firefighter in Vegas.
My logic is simple. I would say most don’t get rich by being dumb. So if you have smart rich investors paying over $300 million for a franchise fee for an MLS team, there’s money somewhere and lots of it.
 
First of all, the Keeper in Vegas is 100% badass and is the top GK according to my little one. Dam, she stopped two opportunities from my goat when we played that Heat team. I was trying to calm my little one down on the way home because she didn;t finish both shots and we tied again. I think Vegas, Utah and AZ should have two teams combined. It's more like maybe top 10% who think they can be top 2%. Socal can have four teams. Norcal 2. 8 team league fully funded. The rest play ECNL and GAL? I know it will never happen but I think it would be cool to dream about. The more girls playing soccer the better and I support the ECNL and the GAL. Maybe just get the goats together more often and no more, "my league is better than your league." Good talk coach
Coach raises a valid issue regarding geography. That’s why MLS needs to step up so those widely dispersed top %10 would be developed by the pro team in their region. U15 to first train together. Simple. Not rocket science folks.
 
My logic is simple. I would say most don’t get rich by being dumb. So if you have smart rich investors paying over $300 million for a franchise fee for an MLS team, there’s money somewhere and lots of it.
If the investment was sound there would be more of it. Women get a bump in interest right after WWC and then it fades and then bumps and fades. It is sad. Look the Glaziers are struggling to maintain WMNU and their club is worth billions. I am not saying groups should not do it. I wish they would.
 
Coach raises a valid issue regarding geography. That’s why MLS needs to step up so those widely dispersed top %10 would be developed by the pro team in their region. U15 to first train together. Simple. Not rocket science folks.
I agree with both of you btw
 
Vegas is the old USA of the 80's and 90's. We seem to build badass keepers JB is one of many. They seem to come from the same keeper coach lately.
I'm more impressed with her being a great kid, roll model, student, great parents and one badass GK. That right there will take you far.
 
I'm more impressed with her being a great kid, roll model, student, great parents and one badass GK. That right there will take you far.

All so true and a great family on top of it. USC is lucky to get her. Her and my son train together, root for each other and support each other.

@MacDre and she is the reason college needs soccer. Her parents are both D1 College athletes I believe also.
 
All so true and a great family on top of it. USC is lucky to get her. Her and my son train together, root for each other and support each other.

@MacDre and she is the reason college needs soccer. Her parents are both D1 College athletes I believe also.
I think in the old system, JB is everything 99% of the parents and coaches wanted from club, which was a D1 deal. That is awesome and I love!!!. I'm not trying to put down college. Please, understand, I love college and college sports. However, for a select few like a JB or an 04' winger in LA, let them have a pathway outside of college if they so choose. JB is a lot like my dd probably and loves school and all the social stuff with being on a team. If my dd had the choice ((a big if too)), she would pick college. I'm just not sure we will win as a country and that has always been what I'm about. I want country to win first and then my dd.
 
She's a stud, ((yes, I've seen her play and @Luis Andres #2 has some work today if wants to go pro too)) like my kid and other kids like OM and AT, and AC, SS, MP and all the other greats. 2%ters are what their called and his goat is obviously one them. He's a smart dad. Question dads: Who would put their top player goat through this meat grinder in Socal? This is appalling and disturbing all in one and I'm embarrassed I spent so much time and money sometimes. Let's applaud the Lad and his dd for wanting to go pro. Go Pro all the way!!!!

since you called me out, I’m using my last post I had free this month for the covid19 free post forum fund. While he’s right in saying that most 12 year old studs don’t equate to being studs later. There is a lot more that has to do with the mental aspect of the player after that age that determines how far they may get aside from all the talent. For me, identifying talent in young ages comes down to their natural ability to move and also control the ball. Can they move well at young ages is key & with soccer speed. Do they have impressive accelerations and decelerations ? etc. My DD has become very technical for her age, she’s developed from a possession background but she has always moved well and she’s always had soccer speed. Trust me if she did not have the physical abilities that she has accompanied with the enthusiasm to train, I wouldn’t be wasting my time. Now the puberty part. Well if she ends up like her mom then it will not be a problem later... She should keep her athleticism. They have the same body type... no big hips, no big breasts to get in the way... super athletic.

To answer your question. My mom is not as athletic as my wife but she does not have big breasts or wide hips either. My daughter has my wife’s body and athleticism. Perks of a platinum member even when I’ve ran out of posts for the month.


Mom:
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since you called me out, I’m using my last post I had free this month. While he’s right in saying that most 12 year old studs don’t equate to being studs later. There is a lot more that has to do with the mental aspect of the player after that age that determines how far they may get aside from all the talent. For me, identifying talent in young ages comes down to their natural ability to move. Can they move well at young ages is key. Do they have soccer speed? etc. My DD has become very technical for her age, she’s developed from a possession background but she has always moved well and she’s always had soccer speed. Trust me if she did not have the physical abilities that she has, I wouldn’t be wasting my time. Now the puberty part. Well if she ends up like her mom then it will not be a problem later...They have the same body type... no big hips, no big breasts to get in the way... super athletic

What about your mom bro? That matters in some DNA girls I was told. May begins in a two days so do i have to wait for a reply bro? BTW, nice foot work. Way a head of my goat when she was younger. My buddy told me_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________-and that's all they look at!!!
 
I think I’d be okay if college soccer disappeared forever because I do not see the benefit. The games are not entertaining. The style of play is not good for development. Most people on this forum openly admit that it’s about the university and not soccer so, those folks can play club soccer in college and focus on academics.
Also, MLS/NWSL would be forced to figure out a better development pathway for kids who’s priority is soccer if college soccer goes away. Could someone please tell why loosing college soccer is a bad thing? Are people just scared of change?
 
I think I’d be okay if college soccer disappeared forever because I do not see the benefit. The games are not entertaining. The style of play is not good for development. Most people on this forum openly admit that it’s about the university and not soccer so, those folks can play club soccer in college and focus on academics.
Also, MLS/NWSL would be forced to figure out a better development pathway for kids who’s priority is soccer if college soccer goes away. Could someone please tell why loosing college soccer is a bad thing? Are people just scared of change?

Is this a real person or a troll? For almost all girls , college soccer is the pinnacle , not too mention the education , leadership, and lifelong relationships. Sorry to burst your bubble but If you aren’t on the national team you aren’t making money in women’s soccer. Most players will go play a couple of years after to say they did it.. clubs will provide them a place to stay and minimal stuff to live on.. hardly a “pro”. In all honesty ... how many American men are going pro and having careers? An MLS avg career is 3 years and those guys aren’t getting rich... we don’t have enough success stories in Europe yet to say we have a legit pathway to pro over there. Not trying to be mean but this is an incredibly uninformed post
 
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