D1 college soccer under threat

vegasguy said:
Never said college is the only way to go. I respect the trades. They do things I can not and they earn their income too. Especially in Vegas. I do not want to be working asphalt in the summer in Vegas. Remember @MacDre thinks I am rich. I know wealthy guys who started a small trade company and now could buy and sell me 10x over.
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I know you didn't, but it was taught to all of us to go to college or you fail. Everyone in girls soccer tell the girls they have to go to college to continue at the highest level in the USA. That is dangerous and we will lose with that ego. The girls are catching up around the world because the men finally allowed them to play soccer and not be forced to be a wife and bare children for the King.
 
MacDre said:
I wish I was as rich as you and could afford the basics in the USA. Unfortunately my kid is stuck doing the best that she can going to a school that operates from parent donations-how elitist of you to call my kids school private.
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Don't get your feels all boiled over. I took your advice. Walked right up to my son and said your soccer carrier is over today. You are not good enough to be a pro and well college soccer is just not good so I can not stand to watch you play anymore. Focus on something your good at like NBA2K. He logged off his online class and picked up the remote. I found a coach for private lesson on NBA2K.
Then I quit coaching. I am never going to produce a Hope Solo or Mia Hamm so why should I coach. Yeah i may get a couple kids college opportunities but that isn't very good so i concede.
 
vegasguy said:
Don't get your feels all boiled over. I took your advice. Walked right up to my son and said your soccer carrier is over today. You are not good enough to be a pro and well college soccer is just not good so I can not stand to watch you play anymore. Focus on something your good at like NBA2K. He logged off his online class and picked up the remote. I found a coach for private lesson on NBA2K.
Then I quit coaching. I am never going to produce a Hope Solo or Mia Hamm so why should I coach. Yeah i may get a couple kids college opportunities but that isn't very good so i concede.
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It's great what you do coach. Helping all kids get into college. I think we need a pro pathway asap and then the others can go for college like the Morris kid up North. Men's soccer is bad and I mean bad. We talk about the girls hear all the time and the only time we talk about men's soccer is how come we din;t advance to world cup. The DA destroyed the men's game too. What a waste of money and resources. This was one big business move and it failed. Time for someone else to come up with a better plan. College can be in the plan but it can;t be, The Plan for 100%. That has not produced a winner for the men so that plan sucks!!! New plan? The world is watching, the girls will lose if we don't fix things quickly imo. I hope I'm wrong....
 
espola said:
Do they still race 12 meter yachts? The Olympic classes top out at 470. Collegiate sail racing is limited to dinghys that are cheap and transportable, although there are still some traditional east coast head-to-head or small regatta races where the teams sail their big boats to the race. Who wouldn't want to see MIT versus Navy?
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Do they still race? Pah! The bloody virus has it all delayed, of course. Nevertheless, I have a strong feeling Lottie will win it all next year in Helsinki.

https://12mrworlds.com/
 
dad4 said:
Do they still race? Pah! The bloody virus has it all delayed, of course. Nevertheless, I have a strong feeling Lottie will win it all next year in Helsinki.

https://12mrworlds.com/
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I have seen 12-meter yachts up close on display and on the water in San Diego. I think you need at least 6 people just to get away from the dock, not including a towboat (unless they have installed a disqualifying auxiliary motor). I have crewed on a 470 and came home with bruises all over my body. The first time the boat kicked up on a crosswind plane the owner/skipper looked at me with a big smile and shouted "Don't move - Hold that position!"
 
Kicknit22 said:
Cal coach is wrong. A pro contract is a pro contract. Doesn’t matter what amount. Same as NCAA eligibility guidlines. Player cannot have EVER received compensation for playing at any time.
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#14 on NC State roster played in UEFA Champions League for AC Sparta Prague. Even mentions it in her bio.
 
espola said:
I have seen 12-meter yachts up close on display and on the water in San Diego. I think you need at least 6 people just to get away from the dock, not including a towboat (unless they have installed a disqualifying auxiliary motor). I have crewed on a 470 and came home with bruises all over my body. The first time the boat kicked up on a crosswind plane the owner/skipper looked at me with a big smile and shouted "Don't move - Hold that position!"
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MacDre said:
Valid point. However, I think Smith should’ve had the opportunity to go pro at 15. She would’ve still had Stanford as an option if things weren’t working out around 20.
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Then she is paying for Stanford which I don't think is all that inexpensive! I personally would love for my kid to play D1 and she wants to. It is extremely rigorous to play a D1 sport and maintain the academic side of things, however now a days schools do a pretty good job of trying to get the academic side handled especially for the women. The Varsity sport v Club sport aren't even close to one another. If she doesn't get a Varsity shot I would want her to play Club if she would want that. All I really want though is for her to be challenged enough that she wants to continue playing until she is old and grey! If you are the top of the top for a team sport athlete you better also look the part. Alex Morgan 250K salary and 5 Million in endorsements, that is great gig if you can get it! Not sure where forbes pulled that salary from and I couldn't find good numbers for international.

Really its up to the Girl/family and in that order (hopefully they work well together). Here is hoping noone gets hurt from all the training done.
 
CaliKlines said:
#14 on NC State roster played in UEFA Champions League for AC Sparta Prague. Even mentions it in her bio.
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Is it possible she didn't get paid? I thought the NCAA wouldn't allow a person to play a sport in college if they had been paid professionally no matter the sport. Paid for skiing couldn't play football.
 
youthsportsugh said:
Is it possible she didn't get paid? I thought the NCAA wouldn't allow a person to play a sport in college if they had been paid professionally no matter the sport. Paid for skiing couldn't play football.
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They are allowed to pay reasonable expenses and what constitutes reasonable expenses is debatable. However, I was under the impression that California kinda punked the NCAA into changing the rules regarding college athletes not getting paid.
 
MacDre said:
They are allowed to pay reasonable expenses and what constitutes reasonable expenses is debatable. However, I was under the impression that California kinda punked the NCAA into changing the rules regarding college athletes not getting paid.
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If Cal was able to punk the NCAA that would be impressive
 
espola said:
I have seen 12-meter yachts up close on display and on the water in San Diego. I think you need at least 6 people just to get away from the dock, not including a towboat (unless they have installed a disqualifying auxiliary motor). I have crewed on a 470 and came home with bruises all over my body. The first time the boat kicked up on a crosswind plane the owner/skipper looked at me with a big smile and shouted "Don't move - Hold that position!"
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If you can't afford a crew so your dear daughter can race, maybe you need to pay more attention to your portfolio. ;)


Yes, the whole thing is absurd. Yacht racing is not an individual sport. On the other hand, neither is soccer, but plenty of people treat it as such.
 
MacDre said:
As real as it gets homeboy. College soccer is the pinnacle of rich kid entitlement. The USWNT is the pinnacle to success loser. If your kid doesn’t make it, it’s time to move on to something that you’re are talented in.
Receiving the second place trophy of college soccer while pretending that they are soccer players instead of focusing on education and career is the pinnacle of stupidity my friend.

I asked a Power 5 coach what he hated most about his job. His response was all the spoiled entitled young adults that they have to bench for the first time because their parents financed the lie that they were legit soccer players.

If you’re concerned about relationships, I think you’ll have more opportunities for relationships by playing club and joining a sorority/fraternity.
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Whoa there, cowboy. "parents financed the lie that they were legit soccer players"? Listen, Coach Cromwell, if there's a shithead on your bench there's no need to look any further than the closest mirror. Girls break their fucking balls to get a look at a college soccer team and now it's "pinnacle of rich kid entitlement"? A very small population are on the SingerFitFinder.com program. The rest of them start making incredible sacrifices at a very early age and it doesn't stop. Money or no bullshit... that's bullshit to drop "entitlement" like that.
 
espola said:
I have seen 12-meter yachts up close on display and on the water in San Diego. I think you need at least 6 people just to get away from the dock, not including a towboat (unless they have installed a disqualifying auxiliary motor). I have crewed on a 470 and came home with bruises all over my body. The first time the boat kicked up on a crosswind plane the owner/skipper looked at me with a big smile and shouted "Don't move - Hold that position!"
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It is so fun to watch. I used to watch the America's Cup in the 90's.
 
Ellejustus said:
It's great what you do coach. Helping all kids get into college. I think we need a pro pathway asap and then the others can go for college like the Morris kid up North. Men's soccer is bad and I mean bad. We talk about the girls hear all the time and the only time we talk about men's soccer is how come we din;t advance to world cup. The DA destroyed the men's game too. What a waste of money and resources. This was one big business move and it failed. Time for someone else to come up with a better plan. College can be in the plan but it can;t be, The Plan for 100%. That has not produced a winner for the men so that plan sucks!!! New plan? The world is watching, the girls will lose if we don't fix things quickly imo. I hope I'm wrong....
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nope I jumped on the college soccer is a waste bandwagon. My son is done because it is bad and I mean bad.. and the girls game... it should be pro or go home... why even have youth leagues because at 12 my kid was definitely not cutting it. I should have switched then.
 
MacDre said:
What kind of problems do you foresee?
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SEC is the only one that can truly pay talent at a high level and they are not in CA for one. It tips the talent to one or two conferences for two (@MacDre is so on board with this).... allows booster access which leads to Armon Gilliam in a hot tub with known game fixer and Larry Johnson from dirty poor Texas driving a Corvette to Shark's after a loss... goes against everything Title IX stands for as there will not be a paycheck for women field hockey players... those are just the starting thoughts... but it is ok because we need to get rid of it all anyway.
 
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