D1 college soccer under threat

Firmino9 said:
Is this a real person or a troll? For almost all girls , college soccer is the pinnacle , not too mention the education , leadership, and lifelong relationships. Sorry to burst your bubble but If you aren’t on the national team you aren’t making money in women’s soccer. Most players will go play a couple of years after to say they did it.. clubs will provide them a place to stay and minimal stuff to live on.. hardly a “pro”. In all honesty ... how many American men are going pro and having careers? An MLS avg career is 3 years and those guys aren’t getting rich... we don’t have enough success stories in Europe yet to say we have a legit pathway to pro over there. Not trying to be mean but this is an incredibly uninformed post
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an alter ego and not mine but what else do we have to do. :)
 
Firmino9 said:
Is this a real person or a troll? For almost all girls , college soccer is the pinnacle , not too mention the education , leadership, and lifelong relationships. Sorry to burst your bubble but If you aren’t on the national team you aren’t making money in women’s soccer. Most players will go play a couple of years after to say they did it.. clubs will provide them a place to stay and minimal stuff to live on.. hardly a “pro”. In all honesty ... how many American men are going pro and having careers? An MLS avg career is 3 years and those guys aren’t getting rich... we don’t have enough success stories in Europe yet to say we have a legit pathway to pro over there. Not trying to be mean but this is an incredibly uninformed post
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I agree 100%.
 
Firmino9 said:
Is this a real person or a troll? For almost all girls , college soccer is the pinnacle , not too mention the education , leadership, and lifelong relationships. Sorry to burst your bubble but If you aren’t on the national team you aren’t making money in women’s soccer. Most players will go play a couple of years after to say they did it.. clubs will provide them a place to stay and minimal stuff to live on.. hardly a “pro”. In all honesty ... how many American men are going pro and having careers? An MLS avg career is 3 years and those guys aren’t getting rich... we don’t have enough success stories in Europe yet to say we have a legit pathway to pro over there. Not trying to be mean but this is an incredibly uninformed post
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Boys, too. Youth players can see members of their club or high school older teams who become college and pro players and try to follow their development pathways. Almost any serious youth player can make a HS team, after which the stepping-stone become college recruiting contacts, college play (perhaps with scholarship money), pro tryouts, and making a pro team. How far up the ladder can you get?
 
Firmino9 said:
Is this a real person or a troll? For almost all girls , college soccer is the pinnacle , not too mention the education , leadership, and lifelong relationships. Sorry to burst your bubble but If you aren’t on the national team you aren’t making money in women’s soccer. Most players will go play a couple of years after to say they did it.. clubs will provide them a place to stay and minimal stuff to live on.. hardly a “pro”. In all honesty ... how many American men are going pro and having careers? An MLS avg career is 3 years and those guys aren’t getting rich... we don’t have enough success stories in Europe yet to say we have a legit pathway to pro over there. Not trying to be mean but this is an incredibly uninformed post
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As real as it gets homeboy. College soccer is the pinnacle of rich kid entitlement. The USWNT is the pinnacle to success loser. If your kid doesn’t make it, it’s time to move on to something that you’re are talented in.
Receiving the second place trophy of college soccer while pretending that they are soccer players instead of focusing on education and career is the pinnacle of stupidity my friend.

I asked a Power 5 coach what he hated most about his job. His response was all the spoiled entitled young adults that they have to bench for the first time because their parents financed the lie that they were legit soccer players.

If you’re concerned about relationships, I think you’ll have more opportunities for relationships by playing club and joining a sorority/fraternity.
 
Ellejustus said:
I agree 100% too. The troll and I are trolling for a pro pathway for girls instead of 99% with college goal oriented players who want to be a nurse. I love nurses too. My mother in law is a nurse.
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I went down the rabbit hole too. Do what we all do. Focus on school and grades. college because although the world needs ditch diggers too (line from Caddyshack) you do not want you player to be one of them. It does not matter at what level. If she is D1 and starts her freshman year begin to dream of a pro opportunity. There are no pro's at 12 not even at La Masia.
or find your own pathway.

I am focused on zoom meetings, phone calls and hopefully ID camps in the coming days, weeks and months. I hope that more college programs do not go the route of the BearCats and Crusaders and Lobos. I will take 4more years of watching my son play any level than having it end in 365days.
 
MacDre said:
As real as it gets homeboy. College soccer is the pinnacle of rich kid entitlement. The USWNT is the pinnacle to success loser. If your kid doesn’t make it, it’s time to move on to something that you’re are talented in.
Receiving the second place trophy of college soccer while pretending that they are soccer players instead of focusing on education and career is the pinnacle of stupidity my friend.

I asked a Power 5 coach what he hated most about his job. His response was all the spoiled entitled young adults that they have to bench for the first time because their parents financed the lie that they were legit soccer players.

If you’re concerned about relationships, I think you’ll have more opportunities for relationships by playing club and joining a sorority/fraternity.
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says the poor oppressed guy who says his daughter is in private school in her dad's ivory tower.
Scholarships for athletics and academics are earned not given. Unless you are a crew member sort of at USC.
It is funny you think college soccer players come from rich families.
 
vegasguy said:
I went down the rabbit hole too. Do what we all do. Focus on school and grades. college because although the world needs ditch diggers too (line from Caddyshack) you do not want you player to be one of them. It does not matter at what level. If she is D1 and starts her freshman year begin to dream of a pro opportunity. There are no pro's at 12 not even at La Masia.
or find your own pathway.

I am focused on zoom meetings, phone calls and hopefully ID camps in the coming days, weeks and months. I hope that more college programs do not go the route of the BearCats and Crusaders and Lobos. I will take 4more years of watching my son play any level than having it end in 365days.
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"I graduated from UC" is a good start in an initial interview, but they hear a lot of that. "And I played four years as a starter on the soccer team" puts your resume in the interesting pile.
 
vegasguy said:
says the poor oppressed guy who says his daughter is in private school in her dad's ivory tower.
Scholarships for athletics and academics are earned not given. Unless you are a crew member sort of at USC.
It is funny you think college soccer players come from rich families.
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To be fair to USC, the crew deal was for admission, not scholarship, and the position was as a coxswain, for whom the only requirements are light weight, a good sense of rhythm, and knowing how to swim.
 
espola said:
"I graduated from UC" is a good start in an initial interview, but they hear a lot of that. "And I played four years as a starter on the soccer team" puts your resume in the interesting pile.
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In my office, the resumes of soccer players go in the garbage because most only went to college for the experience. I prefer those that were developed in cutthroat environments while aiming for the pros. I prefer employees that have a win or die mentality-who wants an employee that doesn’t want to win and just wants the experience and a t-shirt? No thanks!
 
98% play for college coach and I support that if that's what its about for all of you. I also know a few guys who hated HS School and quit and became electrician, plumber and contractor. One "ditch digger" I know is a millionaire. He started digging for gold for another owner and he decided he could dig it himself one day. Today, he is worth millions. The trade is a great way to make $100,000+ with out owning $100,000 in student debt and no job. The world is changing coach :)
 
MacDre said:
In my office, the resumes of soccer players go in the garbage because most only went to college for the experience. I prefer those that were developed in cutthroat environments while aiming for the pros. I prefer employees that have a win or die mentality-who wants an employee that doesn’t want to win and just wants the experience and a t-shirt? No thanks!
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I was going to respond with "clueless" but then I realized it is just one of the trolls.
 
vegasguy said:
says the poor oppressed guy who says his daughter is in private school in her dad's ivory tower.
Scholarships for athletics and academics are earned not given. Unless you are a crew member sort of at USC.
It is funny you think college soccer players come from rich families.
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I wish I was as rich as you and could afford the basics in the USA. Unfortunately my kid is stuck doing the best that she can going to a school that operates from parent donations-how elitist of you to call my kids school private.
 
MacDre said:
As real as it gets homeboy. College soccer is the pinnacle of rich kid entitlement. The USWNT is the pinnacle to success loser. If your kid doesn’t make it, it’s time to move on to something that you’re are talented in.
Receiving the second place trophy of college soccer while pretending that they are soccer players instead of focusing on education and career is the pinnacle of stupidity my friend.

I asked a Power 5 coach what he hated most about his job. His response was all the spoiled entitled young adults that they have to bench for the first time because their parents financed the lie that they were legit soccer players.

If you’re concerned about relationships, I think you’ll have more opportunities for relationships by playing club and joining a sorority/fraternity.
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At least "Macdre the troll" has been around when I came on the scene back in July. This guy just signed up to be a member of the socal forum. You guys, this is a great debate about the top 2% of the US soccer players and should they be lobbied and sold college. We can't have little Sally or Timmy digging a ditch for a living. Man or man, we need Mike Rowe to help some of you. So much we have to change here. College or bust and most parents live their lives in fear that their kid will become a ditch digger. Learn how to juggle a soccer ball and get into a great school. OK!!!
 
dad4 said:
Nonsense old chap. You're just miffed that your daughter still can't beat mine in the 12 meter sailing regatta.
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Do they still race 12 meter yachts? The Olympic classes top out at 470. Collegiate sail racing is limited to dinghys that are cheap and transportable, although there are still some traditional east coast head-to-head or small regatta races where the teams sail their big boats to the race. Who wouldn't want to see MIT versus Navy?
 
Ellejustus said:
98% play for college coach and I support that if that's what its about for all of you. I also know a few guys who hated HS School and quit and became electrician, plumber and contractor. One "ditch digger" I know is a millionaire. He started digging for gold for another owner and he decided he could dig it himself one day. Today, he is worth millions. The trade is a great way to make $100,000+ with out owning $100,000 in student debt and no job. The world is changing coach :)
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Never said college is the only way to go. I respect the trades. They do things I can not and they earn their income too. Especially in Vegas. I do not want to be working asphalt in the summer in Vegas. Remember @MacDre thinks I am rich. I know wealthy guys who started a small trade company and now could buy and sell me 10x over.
 
MacDre said:
I wish I was as rich as you and could afford the basics in the USA. Unfortunately my kid is stuck doing the best that she can going to a school that operates from parent donations-how elitist of you to call my kids school private.
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Says the guy who took his daughter to Lyon to watch a WWC game. I can't afford that flight and stay for a soccer match.
Elitist and Rich... should I be offended or complimented?
 
Ellejustus said:
At least "Macdre the troll" has been around when I came on the scene back in July. This guy just signed up to be a member of the socal forum. You guys, this is a great debate about the top 2% of the US soccer players and should they be lobbied and sold college. We can't have little Sally or Timmy digging a ditch for a living. Man or man, we need Mike Rowe to help some of you. So much we have to change here. College or bust and most parents live their lives in fear that their kid will become a ditch digger. Learn how to juggle a soccer ball and get into a great school. OK!!!
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It was a line from Caddyshack you know Judge Smells
 
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