Bad News Thread

There are certainly some far righties that are anti-vax. In those southern states you also have a higher percentage of minorities which are really behind in vaccinations. There is also lower socio-economic communities in those areas which I also suspect have lower vaccinations rates due to less access to healthcare and often don't seek out healthcare as regularly as higher socioeconomic groups. In the mountain states they tend to be more independent and suspicious of government.

Not sure how you resolve this, but these states certainly need to do a better of encouraging there citizens to be vaccinated. Of course, people do have the choice to assume risk.
It's more than just a few anti vax far right folks.

WSJ put the Dem vax rate at 80% and the Rep vax rate at 50%.

Not surprising. If you listen mostly to Fox, you probably think covid is minor, so why get vaccinated? Flip side, if you read only NYT, you overestimate the risk and get vaccinated ASAP.
 
It's more than just a few anti vax far right folks.

WSJ put the Dem vax rate at 80% and the Rep vax rate at 50%.

Not surprising. If you listen mostly to Fox, you probably think covid is minor, so why get vaccinated? Flip side, if you read only NYT, you overestimate the risk and get vaccinated ASAP.
Still beating your drum. Lol
 
So what’s the story in the UK?

Drastic spike in cases, 46% of which are vaccinated and the Govt is basically saying “screw it” and lifting all restrictions.

Are they saying restrictions don’t work, the vaccine doesn’t work, or both?
Both. Clean drinking water, Good diet, healthy weight, daily exercise = A healthy immune system capable of 98% plus survival rate. Even if you're 70+. Don't let the Crisis Manufacturers fool you with their non-thinking intelect.
 
Who fuels the decisions? 73 mil listened to 1 man, a political hack. The rest it’s a mix with a high dose of experts sprinkled in. Are saying there is no political push from the “it’s a hoax””it’s not that bad””it will over by Easter” anti-vax crowd? Mistakes are made on both sides but prefer those that err on the side of protection with an eye to the overall good, or is that to lovey dovey for you?
Eloquent babble as usual.
 
Doh! Epsilon variant and we are ground zero. Time to panic and rush out to buy bottled water! ^\_(';?)_/^

Zeta is going to be the super variant, even masks won't protect you against it.

(Who knew that Zeta was the next letter in the Greek alphabet after Epsilon? I assumed it was Gamma...yes I had to look it up)
 
Doh! Epsilon variant and we are ground zero. Time to panic and rush out to buy bottled water! ^\_(';?)_/^

Given that LA was ground zero for Epsilon, and LA's numbers still fell as vaccinations rose, I think the answer is "the vaccine still works."

The bigger issue is Delta growing within the unvax community. We may have a mask mandate again this fall/winter if it keeps doubling.
 
Given that LA was ground zero for Epsilon, and LA's numbers still fell as vaccinations rose, I think the answer is "the vaccine still works."

The bigger issue is Delta growing within the unvax community. We may have a mask mandate again this fall/winter if it keeps doubling.

The issue though with the masks mandates is that it has consequences throughout the system. If masks returns, then social distancing requirements in schools may also be necessary (which means public schools can't cope with capacity limitations in some places). Transport like school buses remains restricted. Parents still have a hard time working. Offices will likely be reshuttered to the extent open. I suppose it's possible there's a decoupling and the authorities say "oh let's just use masks as an extra precaution but otherwise continue with things as normal", but given how things have gone down so far, I highly doubt it. Once you have the masks, you open the door to the other stuff too
 
Not surprising. If you listen mostly to Fox, you probably think covid is minor, so why get vaccinated? Flip side, if you read only NYT, you overestimate the risk and get vaccinated ASAP.
Another explanation could be Dems like gov action more than Repubs.
The bigger issue is Delta growing within the unvax community. We may have a mask mandate again this fall/winter if it keeps doubling.
If there is a mask mandate it will simply be another mistake by politicians.

We already see in the UK that they have a spike in cases with no corresponding increase (or anything close) to hospitalizations or deaths.

So that is key #1.

Maybe more importantly is the following.

The other thing that has been reported on widely is that with the current vaccines in place, it isn't hard to tweak them to deal with other variants if necessary. We now have the manufacturing and supply chains in place to quickly create and distribute a new variation of a vaccine.
 
Given that LA was ground zero for Epsilon, and LA's numbers still fell as vaccinations rose, I think the answer is "the vaccine still works."

The bigger issue is Delta growing within the unvax community. We may have a mask mandate again this fall/winter if it keeps doubling.
Why on earth would I wear a mask if I’m vaccinated? If you don’t want to get vax’d it’s your prerogative and if your not vax’d and you don’t want to wear a mask. Also, your prerogative.

I got Vax’d to protect me, not you.
 
Why on earth would I wear a mask if I’m vaccinated? If you don’t want to get vax’d it’s your prerogative and if your not vax’d and you don’t want to wear a mask. Also, your prerogative.

I got Vax’d to protect me, not you.
1- people who got vaccinated can still carry and spread low levels of the virus.

2- it is easier to enforce a mask rule if it applied to everyone.

My doctor’s office still requires masks for everyone. It won’t kill me if I have to wear one at the grocery store, too.
 
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