Bruddah IZ
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See heartfelt response above.
Bad News Thread
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I have an open mind about Fauci. I recognize that he spent most of a year in a difficult position - trying to speak the truth while standing directly behind a man who was telling obvious self-serving lies. I don't have enough expertise in his specialty to judge the accuracy or intent of his positions, but I disagree that he has been wrong about pretty much the majority of stuff he’s said.
kickingandscreaming
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All the mathematical models in the world aren't worth a damn if they can't predict what will happen. I'm not denying epidemiologists are experts, but with COVID they are about as successful as stock pickers - right more often than the general population, but regularly wrong. The most recent example is Fauci's guidance that we shouldn't delay the 2nd shot. It's likely thousands more will die because of this. It's not because he's a bad guy. I believe he wanted what was best. However, there's no denying that he appears to be wrong and people will die because of it.
Then you have the historians who know math that sit around and look for correlations as to why their preferred policy wasn't successful and then blame it on "people" while ignoring the responsibility of leaders to lead people. Boring and useless. To lead, one must know who "we" are. Short of a Chinese-style lockdown, we are going to have to look at where we can mitigate risk and focus on that.
Bruddah IZ
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For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
Dude, seriously, dude, bro, I mean, what's up Doc?
With respect to my debates with the guy who felt there was something wrong about the number 7, I learned that it is pointless to argue with fools. I "got smarter" when I realized it was just as pointless to argue with you.
That’s funny. You’ve said basically you are open to critiquing him but as far as I know have never done so, taking the deferring to the experts cop out. But then you justify it with “orange man bad”.
At least the wall is shattered a bit. If espola is at “I have an open mind” about fauci, faucis star must really be on the fall.
Paul wrote to the young Timothy to help him out with believers who wanted milk toast and the sugar coated lies. Paul said some disciples would gather themselves "teachers" to tell them what they want to hear, not what they need to hear, which is the truth. Truth hurts baby but is needed to clean out the sin.
I must read different news sources than you do, since I am not aware of how Fauci's advice about the second shot will cause people to die. Why do you believe that?
Liar!!!!
I have deliberately stayed out of the "fauci man bad" debates because I don't have the knowledge to feel comfortable on the topic or the inclination to learn more about it. Despite that, I have observed that several posters on the topic are predictably practicing partisan advocacy whenever he makes any statement they don't like.
Liar!!!
Bruddah IZ
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Who's talking majority of things Fauci said? I ask Dadof 4-squared to justify the mainstream case hysteria with deaths and he scampers off to P-values while ignoring Due process. That's one thing. I ask why government regulates to put people out of business while not regulating the types of mask people use to stop the spread. Most mask don't meet the requirements. Beyond fashion that is. How do you ejaculate case numbers without acknowledging that the mask wearing policy was grossly flawed according to OSHA standards even? Now there is talk of 3 ft. social distancing when the variants are allegedly more deadly. I always thought you were smart. But your mind is anything but open.
Bruddah IZ
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I didn't hear an argument?
If you lack the knowledge to make a judgment then how do you know trump was wrong? Basically your argument comes down to trust the expert and orange man bad. I love it when you of all people throw the partisan card when you are acting in a partisan manner yourself. But as I’ve said in the past I’ll give you credit for just being lost rather than being deliberate false.
kickingandscreaming
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Below is where Fauci disagrees with Britain's plan to delay the 2nd shot. Earlier today I posted a NYTimes article indicating the success of Britain's delay of the 2nd dose.
Dr Anthony Fauci says US will not delay second doses of Covid vaccine
American infectious disease expert disagrees with UK’s plans to prioritise first doses
www.theguardian.com
He wants ALL children to be Vaxed first. So nice of them caring for the kids like that.Below is where Fauci disagrees with Britain's plan to delay the 2nd shot. Earlier today I posted a NYTimes article indicating the success of Britain's delay of the 2nd dose.
Dr Anthony Fauci says US will not delay second doses of Covid vaccine
American infectious disease expert disagrees with UK’s plans to prioritise first doses
You frequently assert that the experts are almost always wrong.
But you tend not to back it up.
So far, among early recommendations,
masks +
surfaces -
school and store closures -
bar, restaurant, and stadium closures +
stay outside delayed +
Overall, about half of the very early recommendations held up as solid policy. Given how little was known last March, that is pretty good.
The big fail was nursing home re-admits. I don’t know how much of that was bad advice, and how much was a political decision to help out a constituent industry. But it was certainly a horrible decision.
Compare the experts to the politicians. Last March, politicians were saying things like “it will be over by Easter.”. So sad, really.