Bad News Thread

Desert Hound said:
Thankfully our "leaders" in Washington have a plan with their new covid bill.


The 5,593 page budget-busting bill was posted online Monday afternoon, only hours before House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said a vote would be held.

For some countries, Christmas came early:

  • $169,739,000 to Vietnam, including $19 million to remediate dioxins (page 1476).
  • Unspecified funds to “continue support for not-for-profit institutions of higher education in Kabul, Afghanistan that are accessible to both women and men in a coeducational environment” (page 1477).
  • $198,323,000 to Bangladesh, including $23.5 million to support Burmese refugees and $23.3 million for “democracy programs” (page 1485).
  • $130,265,000 to Nepal for “development and democracy programs” (page 1485).
  • Pakistan: $15 million for “democracy programs” and $10 million for “gender programs” (page 1486).
  • Sri Lanka: Up to $15 million “for the refurbishing of a high endurance cutter,” which is a type of patrol boat (page 1489).
  • $505,925,000 to Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama to “address key factors that contribute to the migration of unaccompanied, undocumented minors to the United States” (pages 1490-1491).
  • $461,375,000 to Colombia for programs related to counternarcotics and human rights (pages 1494-1496).
  • $74.8 million to the “Caribbean Basin Security Initiative” (page 1498).
  • $33 million “for democracy programs for Venezuela” (page 1498).
  • Unspecified amount to Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Curacao, and Trinidad and Tobago “for assistance for communities in countries supporting or otherwise impacted by refugees from Venezuela” (page 1499).
  • $132,025,000 “for assistance for Georgia” (page 1499).
  • $453 million “for assistance for Ukraine” (page 1500).

Also here is a link that shows other important covid related spending in the new bill.

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I take it all those are from the $1.4T omnibus, and to be consistent you'd have to say that $2.3B out of $1.4T is statistically immaterial, at 0.16%, right? So we should ignore and carry on.

Seriously though, joking aside, these bills are always awash with waste. Our "fiscally responsible" politicians (only when they are not in power) are patently utterly incompetent. Alternatively, they are completely competent as they get voted back in at a 97% (or something) rate. They just don't give a shit about how much debt the country is in as they are not impacted, and don't ever think they give a shit about "we the people" - that would be funny.
 
whatithink said:
I take it all those are from the $1.4T omnibus, and to be consistent you'd have to say that $2.3B out of $1.4T is statistically immaterial, at 0.16%, right? So we should ignore and carry on.

Seriously though, joking aside, these bills are always awash with waste. Our "fiscally responsible" politicians (only when they are not in power) are patently utterly incompetent. Alternatively, they are completely competent as they get voted back in at a 97% (or something) rate. They just don't give a shit about how much debt the country is in as they are not impacted, and don't ever think they give a shit about "we the people" - that would be funny.
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Con-men and Con-women = Con-gress
 
Desert Hound said:
Thankfully our "leaders" in Washington have a plan with their new covid bill.


The 5,593 page budget-busting bill was posted online Monday afternoon, only hours before House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said a vote would be held.

For some countries, Christmas came early:

  • $169,739,000 to Vietnam, including $19 million to remediate dioxins (page 1476).
  • Unspecified funds to “continue support for not-for-profit institutions of higher education in Kabul, Afghanistan that are accessible to both women and men in a coeducational environment” (page 1477).
  • $198,323,000 to Bangladesh, including $23.5 million to support Burmese refugees and $23.3 million for “democracy programs” (page 1485).
  • $130,265,000 to Nepal for “development and democracy programs” (page 1485).
  • Pakistan: $15 million for “democracy programs” and $10 million for “gender programs” (page 1486).
  • Sri Lanka: Up to $15 million “for the refurbishing of a high endurance cutter,” which is a type of patrol boat (page 1489).
  • $505,925,000 to Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama to “address key factors that contribute to the migration of unaccompanied, undocumented minors to the United States” (pages 1490-1491).
  • $461,375,000 to Colombia for programs related to counternarcotics and human rights (pages 1494-1496).
  • $74.8 million to the “Caribbean Basin Security Initiative” (page 1498).
  • $33 million “for democracy programs for Venezuela” (page 1498).
  • Unspecified amount to Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Curacao, and Trinidad and Tobago “for assistance for communities in countries supporting or otherwise impacted by refugees from Venezuela” (page 1499).
  • $132,025,000 “for assistance for Georgia” (page 1499).
  • $453 million “for assistance for Ukraine” (page 1500).

Also here is a link that shows other important covid related spending in the new bill.

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Un-fucking-believable.
 
Desert Hound said:
Thankfully our "leaders" in Washington have a plan with their new covid bill.


The 5,593 page budget-busting bill was posted online Monday afternoon, only hours before House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said a vote would be held.

For some countries, Christmas came early:

  • $169,739,000 to Vietnam, including $19 million to remediate dioxins (page 1476).
  • Unspecified funds to “continue support for not-for-profit institutions of higher education in Kabul, Afghanistan that are accessible to both women and men in a coeducational environment” (page 1477).
  • $198,323,000 to Bangladesh, including $23.5 million to support Burmese refugees and $23.3 million for “democracy programs” (page 1485).
  • $130,265,000 to Nepal for “development and democracy programs” (page 1485).
  • Pakistan: $15 million for “democracy programs” and $10 million for “gender programs” (page 1486).
  • Sri Lanka: Up to $15 million “for the refurbishing of a high endurance cutter,” which is a type of patrol boat (page 1489).
  • $505,925,000 to Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama to “address key factors that contribute to the migration of unaccompanied, undocumented minors to the United States” (pages 1490-1491).
  • $461,375,000 to Colombia for programs related to counternarcotics and human rights (pages 1494-1496).
  • $74.8 million to the “Caribbean Basin Security Initiative” (page 1498).
  • $33 million “for democracy programs for Venezuela” (page 1498).
  • Unspecified amount to Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Curacao, and Trinidad and Tobago “for assistance for communities in countries supporting or otherwise impacted by refugees from Venezuela” (page 1499).
  • $132,025,000 “for assistance for Georgia” (page 1499).
  • $453 million “for assistance for Ukraine” (page 1500).

Also here is a link that shows other important covid related spending in the new bill.

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This is insane!!! Talk about crumbs for the American people. Why are we giving away the peoples money to other countries? Color me that or this and call my kettle pink. I say all that money should be given to the biz owners who are SOL and their workers first. Do another bill with all that shit some other time. My gosh, right before are eyes and they tell us to STFCU, wear a dam mask and stay home for the holidays and dont you dare celebrate the Christ and his birthday. Be happy with the $600 bucks and GTFO they say. Do they know what's coming to talk that?
 
happy9 said:
But what must be realized is that goal posts will move, elected and un-elected peeps will change the narrative, and policy will derive from rhetoric, and not science.

It's a self licking ice cream cone.
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Whatever you do be nice to your kids
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Weekly Update to predicted deaths in December.

I expect the average to continue to rise as cases rose the prior week (about 5% IIRC) and cases were rising significantly faster than that the week prior.

Current Daily Average: 2,356
Projection with current average: 73,034

Initial projections
Biden: 250,000 (Daily average: 8,064)
Redfield: 200,000 (Daily average: 6,452)
Me: 62,000 (Daily average: 2,000)

Daily average needed for the rest of the month to reach the projection
(Biden) 250K - 12,766/day
(Redfield) 200K - 9,825/day
100K - 3,942/day
80K - 2,766/day
(me) 62K - 1707/day
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Weekly update - Looks like we are heading to about 80K for December. I was relieved to see that Redfield's projections may have been misrepresented by Forbes due to sloppy reporting. I'm inclined to believe he was.

There are some indications we are leveling off on cases. However, significant portions of the south (including Texas and Florida) and California are still rising. AZ appears to have reached its peak.

Current Daily Average: 2,464
Projection with current average: 76,377

Initial projections
Biden: 250,000 (Daily average: 8,064)
Me: 62,000 (Daily average: 2,000)
 
whatithink said:
I take it all those are from the $1.4T omnibus, and to be consistent you'd have to say that $2.3B out of $1.4T is statistically immaterial, at 0.16%, right? So we should ignore and carry on.

Seriously though, joking aside, these bills are always awash with waste. Our "fiscally responsible" politicians (only when they are not in power) are patently utterly incompetent. Alternatively, they are completely competent as they get voted back in at a 97% (or something) rate. They just don't give a shit about how much debt the country is in as they are not impacted, and don't ever think they give a shit about "we the people" - that would be funny.
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Think the establishment leadership greatly underestimated the unpopularity of this bill. It's being nonstop attacked from right and left. Tucker even attacking L Graham. Coming on the heels of Congress taking COVID shots for themselves, it's going to further weaken the establishment center...worse for the Rs than the Ds (they have Trump who'll continue to throw firebombs on the center and who is now threatening a veto).
 
If true, in their attempt to own Trump, looks like they may very well have killed people. and the SM companies were engaged in the censorship of important information......

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Study finds 84% fewer hospitalizations for patients treated with controversial drug hydroxychloroquine - Washington Examiner

A peer-reviewed study measuring the effectiveness of a controversial drug cocktail that includes hydroxychloroquine concluded that the treatment lowered hospitalizations and mortality rates of coronavirus patients. The study, set to be published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial...
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com
 
News reports with bad news about 2 mask studies:

1. Surgical masks shouldn't be reused
2. Cloth masks while maybe reducing viral load intakes do not block enough particles to keep people from getting sick

www.dailymail.co.uk

Wearing a used mask 'can be WORSE than not wearing one at all'

A new study found that new three-layer surgical masks can filter out 65% of tiny coronavirus-infected particles but used masks can filter out just 25% because the mask becomes worn out.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

www.dailymail.co.uk

Masks NOT enough to stop spread of COVID-19 without social distancing

A new study, from New Mexico State University found that cloth masks let in more than 1,000 sneeze droplets, each of which could contain millions of tiny virus particles that could infect someone.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
Grace T. said:
Think the establishment leadership greatly underestimated the unpopularity of this bill. It's being nonstop attacked from right and left. Tucker even attacking L Graham. Coming on the heels of Congress taking COVID shots for themselves, it's going to further weaken the establishment center...worse for the Rs than the Ds (they have Trump who'll continue to throw firebombs on the center and who is now threatening a veto).
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Its the same crap every time though. There's like $100B in tax give aways to various lobby's in the bill which makes the $2.3B list above a minor afterthought. In other words, there's always something for everyone to hate in these, that's esp. true when you have a divided govt. and compromise is needed to get something passed.

The politicians know that this will blow over in a week or so. The media will move on, esp. with the confirmation hearing on the 6th for Biden. Already the stories are moving to T's pardons and request for $2K per person.
 
Grace T. said:
News reports with bad news about 2 mask studies:

1. Surgical masks shouldn't be reused
2. Cloth masks while maybe reducing viral load intakes do not block enough particles to keep people from getting sick

www.dailymail.co.uk

Wearing a used mask 'can be WORSE than not wearing one at all'

A new study found that new three-layer surgical masks can filter out 65% of tiny coronavirus-infected particles but used masks can filter out just 25% because the mask becomes worn out.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

www.dailymail.co.uk

Masks NOT enough to stop spread of COVID-19 without social distancing

A new study, from New Mexico State University found that cloth masks let in more than 1,000 sneeze droplets, each of which could contain millions of tiny virus particles that could infect someone.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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The Daily Mail is otherwise known as the Daily Heil in the UK. I'm just going to leave that there.
 
Grace T. said:
If true, in their attempt to own Trump, looks like they may very well have killed people. and the SM companies were engaged in the censorship of important information......

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Study finds 84% fewer hospitalizations for patients treated with controversial drug hydroxychloroquine - Washington Examiner

A peer-reviewed study measuring the effectiveness of a controversial drug cocktail that includes hydroxychloroquine concluded that the treatment lowered hospitalizations and mortality rates of coronavirus patients. The study, set to be published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial...
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com
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My neighbor is so scared to go ER because she's afraid the Rona is there. Has had chest pains but is afraid. This is BS and needs to stop!!! OC Register is saying the dam is about to explode and ICU beds are full. Why would anyone want to go to a hospital right now?
 
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