Bad News Thread

Fauci today saying we need 90% to get herd immunity. More interesting he says he keeps moving the goalpost in part because the science evolves (I’m not aware of anything new of the herd immunity front in months) and in part because he lied. Seriously all these people (Fauci, Redfield, Ferguson, even now Birx) are really awful at the messaging portion of their jobs. CDC saying everyone needs to get vaccinated before masks, distancing etc can be relaxed. It’s like we are playing a huge game of calvinball.

Meanwhile at my uncles old hospital a radiologist colleague has gotten the vaccine. Surprised my father and uncle when they heard. While the nurses and technicians that scan the patients in the er are considered front line, the radiologists aren’t. Has them wondering if it was just special treatment or if some of the frontlines have declined the vaccine (freeing up others to receive). They (because of my fathers allergy problem) have also been trying to get the side effects reports on those that have been vaccinated so far and the information isn’t out there easily...only a few states have published so far.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Well, if you look at California, you have 74.1% of the deaths coming from 10.3% of the cases. Why would t you focus the vaccinations on that portion of the population first?
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Now you sound like someone sitting in the cheap seats of a big time meeting, asking or proposing something sensical and getting the deer in the headlight look. Recommend something practical? nothing to see here, move it along.
 
Grace T. said:
Fauci today saying we need 90% to get herd immunity. More interesting he says he keeps moving the goalpost in part because the science evolves (I’m not aware of anything new of the herd immunity front in months) and in part because he lied. Seriously all these people (Fauci, Redfield, Ferguson, even now Birx) are really awful at the messaging portion of their jobs. CDC saying everyone needs to get vaccinated before masks, distancing etc can be relaxed. It’s like we are playing a huge game of calvinball.

Meanwhile at my uncles old hospital a radiologist colleague has gotten the vaccine. Surprised my father and uncle when they heard. While the nurses and technicians that scan the patients in the er are considered front line, the radiologists aren’t. Has them wondering if it was just special treatment or if some of the frontlines have declined the vaccine (freeing up others to receive). They (because of my fathers allergy problem) have also been trying to get the side effects reports on those that have been vaccinated so far and the information isn’t out there easily...only a few states have published so far.
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Have a friend in NJ who got the vaccine as she works healthcare. Surprised me as she’s in finance for a hospital group (late 30’s with no medical conditions/risk factors).

‘front line’ seems to be very loosely defined.
 
MSNBC rolled out a doom and gloom doc Thursday morning who warned Americans not to get overly optimistic about a Covid vaccine because we are in for a “decades-long battle.”
Dr. William Haseltine promoted his books on Covid19.

I had a soccer doc tell me if my dd goes and plays high school soccer that it's the worse decision I could allow her to do and it's doom & gloom for her dream.
 
Dr F has been holding back everyone. The game of guesstimates with ourlives. This guy just turned 80 and is making huge decisions for our future and our kids.

In a telephone interview the next day, Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks. Hard as it may be to hear, he said, he believes that it may take close to 90 percent immunity to bring the virus to a halt — almost as much as is needed to stop a measles outbreak. Dr. Fauci said that weeks ago, he had hesitated to publicly raise his estimate because many Americans seemed hesitant about vaccines, which they would need to accept almost universally in order for the country to achieve herd immunity.
Now that some polls are showing that many more Americans are ready, even eager, for vaccines, he said he felt he could deliver the tough message that the return to normal might take longer than anticipated.

“When polls said only about half of all Americans would take a vaccine, I was saying herd immunity would take 70 to 75 percent,” Dr. Fauci said. “Then, when newer surveys said 60 percent or more would take it, I thought, ‘I can nudge this up a bit,’ so I went to 80, 85.”

This guy is a Politian. He goes by the polls. Most of the docs in soccer were Politians as well and not real docs
 
Grace T. said:
If true, in their attempt to own Trump, looks like they may very well have killed people. and the SM companies were engaged in the censorship of important information......

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Study finds 84% fewer hospitalizations for patients treated with controversial drug hydroxychloroquine - Washington Examiner

A peer-reviewed study measuring the effectiveness of a controversial drug cocktail that includes hydroxychloroquine concluded that the treatment lowered hospitalizations and mortality rates of coronavirus patients. The study, set to be published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial...
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The liberal media made it controversial.
 
So I'm on our Christmas Even church service on zoom. 2 families have grandparents over to their house, indoors. Wearing masks. I have no problem with people making the choice how they want to worship or how they want to conduct their family relations. I respect my own parent's decision to not have anything to do with us this holiday. But this @dad4 is why I think honest advice about masks is important. The 2 families think they are "probably safe" because no one is symptomatic and they are all wearing masks. They think the masks are protecting them despite being together indoors 3+ hours and not eating together (one family ate earlier masks off, the other in different rooms). If they were told the masks in that situation probably don't do anything, maybe they make the same choice. Maybe they decide its not the best idea to get together. But they think the masks are protecting them "because that's what the science says and we believe the scientists" and therefore aren't making informed decisions about what's happening.
 
Vitamin D, other everyday vitamins could counter coronavirus effects: report
Studies reveal nine out of 10 COVID-19 deaths could have been prevented if people had adequate Vitamin D levels

How do we get vitamin D? Our body creates vitamin D from direct sunlight on our skin when we're outdoors. From about late March/early April to the end of September, most people should be able to get all the vitamin D we need from sunlight. Get outside to the Light so you can breath, get sunlight ((Vitamin D)) and save your life. Time to kick some ass soon. What a bunch of wimps using people to stay ahead and in charge. Cheaters and Liars suck!!!
 
Desert Hound said:
All I have to say now is Merry Xmas!

Back to disagreeing with some of you in 36 hours or so.
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I;m addicted to this place and still have some unfinished business to take care of. A little bet I have with a couple dudes. See you tomorrow hound dog. Merry Christmas to you, your wife and your goat. Love you man!!!
 
OC Fear Tracker Update
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Also, this just in. New strain fear tactics from the UK. Heads up to all you. It's going to get a lot worse before it get's better. Stay safe and help those in need. If you help with a good heart, I promise you 100% rich blessings will be rewarded to you. It comes down to choice.

In justifying the move to a new national lockdown, the leaders of the UK briefly enjoyed the political fortune of a headline-grabbing finding: a new strain of Covid-19, possibly more virulent than the old.

This strain, despite the paucity of scientific data, has been described as “up to 70 per cent more transmissible than the old variant,” and it is this figure which has gripped the media and policymakers. The tendency towards catastrophism is palpable.
 
Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday that Americans could start thinking about a return to “some form of normality” by the fall. There you go folks. All my insiders say the same thing. Mask, Vaccine no sports until Fall in socal.

Fauci told Bash that while the two vaccines — one from Moderna and the other from Pfizer — were being administered based on risk first, the general population could see widespread vaccination in the summer months.

“Well, if you look at the logistics of it, Dana, right now, we are going through the priority groups,” Fauci explained, noting that the highest priorities included health care workers — who have to stay healthy in order to continue to provide care for patients — and the elderly or those who have underlying medical conditions.

“Once you get there, what I call open season ((in my yellow page day, open season met we could go into anyone else sales territory and steal the sale)), namely when anybody who is anybody, you don’t have to be a priority person, should get vaccinated ((this is him hitting us soft because were like little kids and can;t handle the real truth. Next year, he will bitch slap us the real truth)). I think we are going to get there probably end of March, beginning of April,” Fauci continued, adding that the United States could reach the point where approximately 85% of the population was vaccinated by mid to late summer ((what about the 15% WHO are super healthy and are a no way for bat virus shot))

“I hope by the time we get to the fall, we will reach that critical percentage of people that we can really start thinking about and return to some form of normality,” he concluded.

Fauci had previously suggested late June ((moved goal post again)) as the time that people could begin going about their business ((if they even have a business left in the fall)) without wearing face coverings, telling CNN’s Chris
 
If true, has profound implications:

-we know most transmissions take place in the home....means transmission from home to home taking place because people are aholes and going outside despite not feeling well.
-Another explanation why masks aren't doing much. Perhaps symptomatic people are going out thinking masks protect people.
-It would also explain why partial lockdowns don't work....the sick can still go out....only way you keep the sick indoors isolated is by shutting down the highways.

www.lifesitenews.com

Asymptomatic transmission of COVID-19 didn’t occur at all, study of 10 million finds - LifeSite

Only 300 asymptomatic cases in the study of nearly 10 million were discovered, and none of those tested positive for COVID-19.
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Grace T. said:
My father has the same allergy.....he'll be crushed.......

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Boston doctor suffers first known serious reaction to Moderna coronavirus vaccine - Washington Examiner

A Boston doctor has become the first known person to suffer a serious allergic reaction to the Moderna coronavirus vaccine.Dr. Hossein Sadrzadeh, a geriatric oncologist at Boston Medical Center, said he became dizzy and felt his heart racing moments after receiving the Moderna vaccine on...
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I'll take my chances by eating healthy
 
I'll give Biden credit, he doesn't shy away from bold predictions despite a huge miss for December (predicting 250K deaths). If we took the average of Trump's prediction and Biden's we'd have something closer to the actual - still over, but much closer. I've come to the conclusion that epidemiologists' predictions are equivalent to that of shy weather forecasters. They are reluctant to say anything and qualify everything they do say - "it might actually get worse".

"One thing I promise you about my leadership during this crisis: I'm going to tell it to you straight. I'm going to tell you the truth. And here's the simple truth: Our darkest days in the battle against Covid are ahead of us, not behind us," Biden, who has received a coronavirus vaccine, said in remarks at the time.

<From Fauci>
"We are really at a very critical point. ... So I share the concern of President-elect Biden that as we get into the next few weeks, it might actually get worse."

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Fauci shares Biden's concern that 'darkest days' may be ahead in Covid-19 fight

Dr. Anthony Fauci on Sunday expressed concern that the worst may still come in America's battle against Covid-19, agreeing with President-elect Joe Biden's recent assessment that the "darkest days" in fighting the virus lie ahead.
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Gerald Rivera the lawyer is all worked and super afraid of something. I think t can speak for himself bro and he has nothing but beautiful things to say about his Military Prosecutor. She is one of the few who can trial a case in a tribunal court. No one wants to get a summands from her, let me tell you. These courts are much different then the old city court house.

"Sidney Powell is a pathetic lawyer who among others is working to destroy the legacy of
@realDonaldTrump" GR-
 
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