Bad News Thread

Hüsker Dü said:
Do you believe everything trump tells you to?
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Please. Look up the climate accord for yourself. If you can't see that's lighting money on fire, I can't help you. What's the point of pouring all that money into an agreement the worst offenders don't participate in?

And I just watched a nice documentary about MS-13 and the other influx of gangs coming to the states. Lovely of AOC and company to desire the abolishment of ICE. Yeah, open borders and no border patrol. What tremendous leadership that dipshit brought our country.
 
happy9 said:
Let's not forget how dangerous it is to not engage in silly escapades in the middle east. God forbid we stop spending tax payer dollars in those lovely destination locations.
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Yep. The democrats weren't very happy when Trump talked about bringing soldiers home. They bitched about everything he ever said or did.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
Yep. The democrats weren't very happy when Trump talked about bringing soldiers home. They bitched about everything he ever said or did.
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Both sides aren't happy. Plenty of contractor dollars left on the table as the footprint continue to shrink and mission profile changes. Not as many bodies to feed, schools to build (that never get used), or broken/blown up vehicles to fix.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
We're #1

www.sfgate.com

California now has the worst COVID-19 spread in US

California is posting the country's worst COVID-19 numbers despite a new stay-at-home...
www.sfgate.com www.sfgate.com
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I know it's not coming from our place. Were following all the rules. My dd the other day said she has to self stay home until her friends gets test. No birthday party for #17. I told her when she turns 18 we will have a real bday party. She stays in her room and I now have a mask law in my crib. My son is now going out to brave the Rona so we stay safe at home. I have hills to hike and a private balcony looking at mother nature. It's time to be a bear in the winter and stay safe in my cave. I sneak out only to exercise. I will do this until it's safe and the Dark Winter is over and Spring comes. Oh how I long for thee Spring :) Thank you to all essential workers risking their lives for us. Thank you and I mean that.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
We're #1

www.sfgate.com

California now has the worst COVID-19 spread in US

California is posting the country's worst COVID-19 numbers despite a new stay-at-home...
www.sfgate.com www.sfgate.com
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And CA is one of the states that has had the strictest restrictions in place during the entire time.

At some point can we say lockdowns and masks do not stop the spread?

You could have done a FL. Schools in session and kids learning, businesses open, sports happening, people doing their thing.

Or continue to do the CA thing. Schools shut (in LA there is a 40% absentee rate for their online classes FYI), no sports, biz getting hammered, financial ruin, etc. And for what? A policy that hasn't done anything to stop the spread of the virus.

FL has been open. CA been shut.

So how effective has the shutdowns been in stopping the spread? Lets go to the numbers.

CA has 55,668 cases per million
FL has 59,605 cases per million.

Turns out CA and the lockdowns has about as many cases per million as FL. @dad4 and others have been telling us the way to stop the spread is to lock down, mask up, etc. The numbers tell us that policy doesn't actually work.

Gov policy is not going to stop the spread of the virus. Gov policy however is very effective at hurting education, killing off biz, etc.
 
Desert Hound said:
And CA is one of the states that has had the strictest restrictions in place during the entire time.

At some point can we say lockdowns and masks do not stop the spread?

You could have done a FL. Schools in session and kids learning, businesses open, sports happening, people doing their thing.

Or continue to do the CA thing. Schools shut (in LA there is a 40% absentee rate for their online classes FYI), no sports, biz getting hammered, financial ruin, etc. And for what? A policy that hasn't done anything to stop the spread of the virus.

FL has been open. CA been shut.

So how effective has the shutdowns been in stopping the spread? Lets go to the numbers.

CA has 55,668 cases per million
FL has 59,605 cases per million.

Turns out CA and the lockdowns has about as many cases per million as FL. @dad4 and others have been telling us the way to stop the spread is to lock down, mask up, etc. The numbers tell us that policy doesn't actually work.

Gov policy is not going to stop the spread of the virus. Gov policy however is very effective at hurting education, killing off biz, etc.
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I was wondering where you been Hound. I like the work and numbers dont lie, ever!!!!
 
Desert Hound said:
And CA is one of the states that has had the strictest restrictions in place during the entire time.

At some point can we say lockdowns and masks do not stop the spread?

You could have done a FL. Schools in session and kids learning, businesses open, sports happening, people doing their thing.

Or continue to do the CA thing. Schools shut (in LA there is a 40% absentee rate for their online classes FYI), no sports, biz getting hammered, financial ruin, etc. And for what? A policy that hasn't done anything to stop the spread of the virus.

FL has been open. CA been shut.

So how effective has the shutdowns been in stopping the spread? Lets go to the numbers.

CA has 55,668 cases per million
FL has 59,605 cases per million.

Turns out CA and the lockdowns has about as many cases per million as FL. @dad4 and others have been telling us the way to stop the spread is to lock down, mask up, etc. The numbers tell us that policy doesn't actually work.

Gov policy is not going to stop the spread of the virus. Gov policy however is very effective at hurting education, killing off biz, etc.
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The real bad news is that the experts STILL don't seem to have changed their thinking. This article has 3 important lines of thought from the WHO:

1. Even with the vaccines, the Rona is never going away. They seem to think we never reach herd immunity (just the death rate gets lower). It will be endemic like the flu, which means people will die from it from years to come (and the idea we could ever become "safe" has always been an illusion).
2. This was not the "big one"....in which case why did we do what we did wrecking the global economy?
3. That we've evolved to the point that we can "get our act together" and actually control these things....when we've haven't for the span of human history.

www.theguardian.com

WHO warns Covid-19 pandemic is 'not necessarily the big one'

Experts tell end of year media briefing that virus is likely to become endemic and the world will have to learn to live with it
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Grace T. said:
The real bad news is that the experts STILL don't seem to have changed their thinking. This article has 3 important lines of thought from the WHO:

1. Even with the vaccines, the Rona is never going away. They seem to think we never reach herd immunity (just the death rate gets lower). It will be endemic like the flu, which means people will die from it from years to come (and the idea we could ever become "safe" has always been an illusion).
2. This was not the "big one"....in which case why did we do what we did wrecking the global economy?
3. That we've evolved to the point that we can "get our act together" and actually control these things....when we've haven't for the span of human history.

www.theguardian.com

WHO warns Covid-19 pandemic is 'not necessarily the big one'

Experts tell end of year media briefing that virus is likely to become endemic and the world will have to learn to live with it
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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The virus isn't going away.

So the question is...with a vaccine what will be the response of the government?

Still push masks? Still push social distancing?

It seems many out there are thinking in that direction.
 
Grace T. said:
They don't seem to have thought out distribution plans very much.......

www.politico.com

The big worry hanging over vaccination: Getting people to the clinics

Distrust isn't the only barrier to a successful vaccination campaign.
www.politico.com www.politico.com
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I chuckled while reading this article. It's amusing and sad at the same time. NGOs all over the world plan and execute immunization programs. They do so with shoe string budgets, limited staff, and under very austere conditions. Many times they operate under a security threat. Pick any country in central Africa.

Now, our state gubments can't even plan how to immunize the "hard to get to" people? Maybe they should hire some people. The state of california increased their public health spending by $1.7B. $57M resides in the " infectious disease prevention and control efforts " category.

2 things here, our media sucks, and our government employees are worthless when it comes to actually doing their jobs. But they will whine about it and many will help them whine.

Give some seed money to some small distribution companies and have them partner with traveling nurse agencies. And yes, I know it's more complex than this but you get my drift. We are paying a ton of taxes to support incompetence.
 
Desert Hound said:
The virus isn't going away.

So the question is...with a vaccine what will be the response of the government?

Still push masks? Still push social distancing?

It seems many out there are thinking in that direction.
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Will schools continue to shut down the next 3 years if there's even 1 case in the classroom and the students vaccinated? Will we still be requiring non stop testing for schools and athletics?
 
Grace T. said:
Will schools continue to shut down the next 3 years if there's even 1 case in the classroom and the students vaccinated? Will we still be requiring non stop testing for schools and athletics?
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My dd has had two friends whose parents have both tested for Rona in last two weeks. My dd is now at home for good because everyone is getting the Rona. So why bother trying to go out. She had the most awesome party planned for #17 Grace. She has had to play soccer every year during her birthdays and this was the one where we said, "no soccer." We just didnt know we would be on lock down too. A friend suggested a Happy Birthday Zoom Party and gifts from Amazon and she is 100%b a no
 
Grace T. said:
Will schools continue to shut down the next 3 years if there's even 1 case in the classroom and the students vaccinated? Will we still be requiring non stop testing for schools and athletics?
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That is actually a concern of mine. Combine the fear of the rona with the normal flu and colds people get, and watch some of the stupid policies that get implemented in our public school systems.
 
Desert Hound said:
That is actually a concern of mine. Combine the fear of the rona with the normal flu and colds people get, and watch some of the stupid policies that get implemented in our public school systems.
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Were down for a long fu*king Winter Hound. Forget all my darkness & light sh*t. This is as real as it get bro. Stay safe bro. There is no way things will get better. Dr F just went on CNN and rebuked California for doing a horrible job. He's very disappointed. Let's EVERYONE go home and not leave so we can kill this bat virus bastard once and for all.
 
Grace T. said:
Will schools continue to shut down the next 3 years if there's even 1 case in the classroom and the students vaccinated? Will we still be requiring non stop testing for schools and athletics?
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Public schools will die a slow death. Education gap by demographic will widen. Teacher unions will continue to morph into PACs, and many teachers who want to do right by their kids will take notice of their unions. If you are a teacher, I'm not attacking you. Your unions are starting to taste a little different. If yours it GTG, then great.

There is a term used often in low income areas - Food deserts. Education deserts may become a thing. It's unfortunate. I give credit to our school district, they are trying hard to remain relevant. They understand the dollars and sense and have not shut down since we opened. They are staring down their own pandemic - parents pulling kids out of the district straight into Charter and Privates.
 
happy9 said:
Public schools will die a slow death. Education gap by demographic will widen. Teacher unions will continue to morph into PACs, and many teachers who want to do right by their kids will take notice of their unions. If you are a teacher, I'm not attacking you. Your unions are starting to taste a little different. If yours it GTG, then great.

There is a term used often in low income areas - Food deserts. Education deserts may become a thing. It's unfortunate. I give credit to our school district, they are trying hard to remain relevant. They understand the dollars and sense and have not shut down since we opened. They are staring down their own pandemic - parents pulling kids out of the district straight into Charter and Privates.
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Home school is huge now Happy and so many are starting to like it more and more. My dd does school from home and she loves it for the sleep part. I actually think sleep is super important so I see good things from not going to in person school. I have a very good buddy named Bruno who just got his black belt and he will soon be Dr Bruno. My wife speaks 5 languages so were thinking of opening a private specialized academy for Languages & the Arts & Sports Training. I might open up Crush PE. All the kids meet up at the park and I run those kids and make sure they eat healthy and stay in shape. Nutritional program and will never shame another child because of weight issues. We will work with each child where they're at. Education is key. The name is going to be, "Elite Prep Academy."
 
happy9 said:
Public schools will die a slow death. Education gap by demographic will widen. Teacher unions will continue to morph into PACs, and many teachers who want to do right by their kids will take notice of their unions. If you are a teacher, I'm not attacking you. Your unions are starting to taste a little different. If yours it GTG, then great.

There is a term used often in low income areas - Food deserts. Education deserts may become a thing. It's unfortunate. I give credit to our school district, they are trying hard to remain relevant. They understand the dollars and sense and have not shut down since we opened. They are staring down their own pandemic - parents pulling kids out of the district straight into Charter and Privates.
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"School districts from coast to coast have reported the number of students failing classes has risen by as many as two or three times - with English language learners and disabled and disadvantaged students suffering the most.


"It was completely off the rails from what is normal for us, and that was obviously very alarming," said Erik Jespersen, principal of Oregon's McNary High School, where 38% of grades in late October were failing, compared with 8% in normal times.

Educators see a number of factors at play: Students learning from home skip assignments - or school altogether. Internet access is limited or inconsistent, making it difficult to complete and upload assignments. And teachers who don't see their students in person have fewer ways to pick up on who is falling behind, especially with many keeping their cameras off during Zoom sessions.

The increase in failing grades has been seen in districts of all sizes around the country."


And

time.com

Students of Color Could Be up to 12 Months Behind by the End of This School Year

"The pandemic has forced the most vulnerable students into the least desirable learning situations"
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"Students in the U.S. are likely to have suffered up to nine months of learning loss in math, on average, by the end of the academic year because of disruptions caused by the pandemic, and students of color could be as many as 12 months behind"

time.com

Students of Color Could Be up to 12 Months Behind by the End of This School Year

"The pandemic has forced the most vulnerable students into the least desirable learning situations"
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  • Schools are struggling to teach students remotely or in classrooms in which children wear masks and sit behind plastic shields. One national testing organization reported that the average student in grades 3-8 who took a math assessment this fall scored 5 to 10 percentile points behind students who took the same test last year, with Black, Hispanic and poor students falling even further behind.
  • Classrooms have been unusually empty, with quarantines and sickness affecting attendance in face-to-face schools and computer issues interfering with online instruction. Some districts report that the number of students who’ve missed at least 10 percent of classes, which studies show could lead to devastating lifelong consequences, has more than doubled.
  • And an estimated 3 million vulnerable students — who are homeless, in foster care, have disabilities or are learning English — appear to not be in school at all.
www.nbcnews.com

An overwhelming toll: What America’s children have lost during the pandemic

“We’re going to almost need a New Deal for an entire generation of kids to give them the opportunity to catch up,” one advocate said.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
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Step right up folks. The tone is so soft, just like Dr F. Just wait until "you dont want to participate in the saving of your life and other lives" You will be 100% branded a selfish asshole for saying "no to bat virus and saving lives."

The vice president-elect stressed, "This is about saving lives. It's literally about saving lives. I trust the scientists, and it is the scientists who created and approved this vaccine everyone. So I urge everyone, when it is your turn, get vaccinated. It's about saving your life, the life of your family members, and the life of your community."
 
CNN’s Jim Acosta roasted for saying covering Trump was ‘nonstop national emergency,’ ‘might merit hazard pay’
Liberal reporter tells The Atlantic that Biden’s presidency could be ‘approached differently’

Jan 5th, 2017 they had a meet up and the plan was started. For Jim, Joe and so many others I know, this was a National Emergency for them and they had to do whatever they had to do to make sure orangeman never got another 4 years. Jim played true to his beliefs and it showed the last fours. Good job Jim. Now we shall see what the other side has to say about what they perceive as their emergency. I think they think its a National Emergency as well. Can we have sides that think their right? Divided we are. One side needs about 75% and the Armed Forces to get us through all this.
 
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