Bad News Thread

I'm not sure what you mean by "swear by its ideology", but I have posted some rational discussions of CRT on this very thread. Some people here seem to be eager to discuss something else and call it CRT, but it's hard to pin them down on just what it is that has them so worked up.
I haven’t read one analysis from one of the “trump style conservatives” in here describing what their issue is with CRT. Right there in the title is a word giving a big clue to the intentions of the originator, “Theory”.

Here’s some light reading on the crux of the subject: https://www.theskimm.com/news/systemic-racism-us-2f9M0RPl3VEuCAA5pSoZNr
 
Educate me.
That is your standard response.

You support something that you seem to have done very little research on. I don't refer reading a news article here and there that says CRT is good. Do some actual research to see what the actual proponents advocate. Go see then how that actually translates into what they are doing.

Clearly you have not. And yet you seem to support CRT.

One shouldn't support or oppose something they have not actually bothered to learn about.
 
I haven’t read one analysis from one of the “trump style conservatives” in here describing what their issue is with CRT. Right there in the title is a word giving a big clue to the intentions of the originator, “Theory”.

Here’s some light reading on the crux of the subject: https://www.theskimm.com/news/systemic-racism-us-2f9M0RPl3VEuCAA5pSoZNr

In the mid-'50s, my father went to a National Guard training camp for anti-aircraft artillery officers in Texas. He was a school Principal then. At that time, there were a lot of NG officers who were educators. He got the opportunity to speak with teachers from the South, both black and white. After he came home, we were watching some news program about school problems in the South. He said, "They may be separate, but they're not equal."

He brought home this Renwal kit so we would know what he was doing --

 
I'm ok with "she", but not with "they".

How do you think that she would do in the women's decathlon today?
If HE were young again and competing vs women he would completely dominate them.

There is a reason why we created women's sports. Hint? It was so women could actually compete.

Why we pretend and why some people want to go along and call a guy a she is beyond me. And people do it with a str8 face.

It is farcical.

If I were to suddenly declare I am black that is just as farcical.

To then demand and get minority loans, receive affirmative action...etc etc because I claim that suddenly I am black would be ridiculous. And it is. People would laugh at me and say get a life. And yet on sex common sense goes out the door.

To turn around and we are now pretending guys are women because they declare that? And they get to play in women's sports, etc?

Lets live in the real world.

If some guy wants to wear makeup and wear dresses have at it. I could care less. But when that same person demands I call him a she, or wants to play on the women's soccer team, or compete on some women's Olympic team that is where I draw a line.
 
That is your standard response.

You support something that you seem to have done very little research on. I don't refer reading a news article here and there that says CRT is good. Do some actual research to see what the actual proponents advocate. Go see then how that actually translates into what they are doing.

Clearly you have not. And yet you seem to support CRT.

One shouldn't support or oppose something they have not actually bothered to learn about.

I "support" CRT in the same sense that I "support" the pencil-and-paper way of extracting square roots.

You should think long and hard about your last sentence.
 
If HE were young again and competing vs women he would completely dominate them.

There is a reason why we created women's sports. Hint? It was so women could actually compete.

Why we pretend and why some people want to go along and call a guy a she is beyond me. And people do it with a str8 face.

It is farcical.

If I were to suddenly declare I am black that is just as farcical.

To then demand and get minority loans, receive affirmative action...etc etc because I claim that suddenly I am black would be ridiculous. And it is. People would laugh at me and say get a life. And yet on sex common sense goes out the door.

To turn around and we are now pretending guys are women because they declare that? And they get to play in women's sports, etc?

Lets live in the real world.

If some guy wants to wear makeup and wear dresses have at it. I could care less. But when that same person demands I call him a she, or wants to play on the women's soccer team, or compete on some women's Olympic team that is where I draw a line.

I can't help but point out that you have declared yourself to be educated.
 
Dead last, if she finished. Probably wouldn’t make it over the hurdles.
Particularly in those heels. (Oops, sorry)

Not to be the annoying fact checker, but women don't compete in the decathlon. At the recent US trials a heptathlete competed while 18 months pregnant, that's bad ass.
 
That is your standard response.

You support something that you seem to have done very little research on. I don't refer reading a news article here and there that says CRT is good. Do some actual research to see what the actual proponents advocate. Go see then how that actually translates into what they are doing.

Clearly you have not. And yet you seem to support CRT.

One shouldn't support or oppose something they have not actually bothered to learn about.
Marx Brothers are impossible to even have a discussion with. Dad already bailed.
If HE were young again and competing vs women he would completely dominate them.

There is a reason why we created women's sports. Hint? It was so women could actually compete.

Why we pretend and why some people want to go along and call a guy a she is beyond me. And people do it with a str8 face.

It is farcical.

If I were to suddenly declare I am black that is just as farcical.

To then demand and get minority loans, receive affirmative action...etc etc because I claim that suddenly I am black would be ridiculous. And it is. People would laugh at me and say get a life. And yet on sex common sense goes out the door.

To turn around and we are now pretending guys are women because they declare that? And they get to play in women's sports, etc?

Lets live in the real world.

If some guy wants to wear makeup and wear dresses have at it. I could care less. But when that same person demands I call him a she, or wants to play on the women's soccer team, or compete on some women's Olympic team that is where I draw a line.
Lot's to read over hear Hound. My wife had a friend from HS come live with us for a week until I was able to help her out with a few things. You see, she thought her hubby was having an affair with someone on the road. He worked for a big corp company and had to travel up to Norcal every month for a week. Well, she found some receipts from Victoria Secret and a few other places. She went cray cray and rightfully so. He denied another woman was in da mix. She was not having it and would close her ears to his reasoning for buying some "extra" large slippers and panties. I was able to help her see that he was actually a cross dresser and has been doing it ever since he was a boy. He likes to dress up as a woman I kid you not. I saw the sizes and met the guy a few times and knew right away he was buying stuff for himself. I got her to call his mom and she fessed up bro. Anyway, it got all resolved and now it's ok for him to play dress up. They do it together and are super in love :)
 
I "support" CRT in the same sense that I "support" the pencil-and-paper way of extracting square roots.

You should think long and hard about your last sentence.
Per usual you don't actually explain what you support. It is per usual a cop out on your part from actually articulating what specifically you find so endearing to CRT.

An actual defense on your part would be to cite some of the various writers and their specific positions and let us know what you find worthy in those positions and thus should be taught in schools, companies, etc.

And yet you avoid doing that like the plague.
 
Good catch! Gotta love the irony. Just goes to show I should leave the fact checking to Espola.

Seems unfair. If the ERA had passed, women would be competing in a proper decathlon just like the men, not just 7/10 like the men.

I remember when women were not allowed to run marathons in the Olympics or other big Marathon events like Boston -- it was feared it might ruin their child-bearing parts. Now the women's marathon world record is about where the men's marathon world record was in 1964, and it is less than 15 minutes behind the current men's WR.
 
Per usual you don't actually explain what you support. It is per usual a cop out on your part from actually articulating what specifically you find so endearing to CRT.

An actual defense on your part would be to cite some of the various writers and their specific positions and let us know what you find worthy in those positions and thus should be taught in schools, companies, etc.

And yet you avoid doing that like the plague.

I already posted what I know about it several times. You are free to have your own opinion, but not your own facts.
 
Seems unfair. If the ERA had passed, women would be competing in a proper decathlon just like the men, not just 7/10 like the men.

I remember when women were not allowed to run marathons in the Olympics or other big Marathon events like Boston -- it was feared it might ruin their child-bearing parts. Now the women's marathon world record is about where the men's marathon world record was in 1964, and it is less than 15 minutes behind the current men's WR.
If women want to expand to the decathlon, more power to them.
 
If women want to expand to the decathlon, more power to them.

It's not just expanding, most of the events are different - different distances run and the weights of the shot and javelin. The only events that are the "same" are high jump and long jump (anyone else old enough to remember the broad jump?).
 
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