Bad News Thread

Grace T. said:
Unfortunately this thing looks like it's not yet quite over and we still have some time to go. It means a few things:

-The UK, because of it's increasing numbers, is probably going to be the first out of it.
-Israel reinstated its mask mandate for the vaccinated. We have a huge fight coming here in the United States and it's not just over masks. The issues include mandatory vaccinations, vaccination of children in the fall, reinstalling mask mandates (La County has made already a "recommendation" for use indoors) and shutting down the restaurants/bars and maybe even schools again. What's stupid is the states that least need the restrictions will likely be the most heavy handed, and even with the UK's rising numbers deaths and hospitalizations have been largely decoupled from cases. But make no mistake, in some form or other, with the most severe measures directed at the children, the are going to try and restrict things in California again. It's not over yet.
-India seeded an outbreak in the UK and the UK has in turn seeded an outbreak in parts of Europe. Russia is also having an outbreak, so having the Euro is a full stadium in St. Petersburg is going to cause some issues, particularly since this variant is more contagious outdoors.
-The third world is in for an utterly devastating wave and whatever has been holding things back in Asia and Africa is no longer holding things back. With the low rates of vaccination, in the third world we could really see horrible things to come as already poor hospital systems get overwhelmed.
-the major western vaccines seem to do a really good job at preventing hospitalizations and deaths still.

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Mabye they ran out of Ivermectin or Big Pharma shut down Ivermectin production??
 
Desert Hound said:
This is key.

The other key is, it seems that while the D variant spreads easier, it is a weaker variant health wise.


- Looking at India. On paper the variant should have ripped through the country. And yet we see the rise and the fall in infections/deaths. The country as a whole still has a extremely low deaths per million. Also as it relates to the virus a very low vaccinated rate. One would think that would be a recipe for disaster. It appears not to be the case.

- The UK has seen a rise in cases since the beginning of June. So we are about a month in. In the next week or 2 if this variant is an issue it will present itself as such in the stats. So we will know rather soon.

- I suspect that we will be fine due to the following factors. A large percentage of our population has been exposed to the virus. We also have a large percentage of people vaccinated.

- You are right that governments will try to reimpose restrictions. They will likely overreact again.

Either way...with the UK a month into rising infections we will know extremely soon if the variant is an issue or not.
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The death numbers in India are being questioned, reinforced by one state that reviewed their deaths and more or less doubled their numbers. India's reported Covid deaths are at just under 400K. Estimates of "true" numbers run from 600K to 2M+. Relatively speaking, their deaths per million will still tend to be low, but then again they have about 1.4B people ...

The UK delta variant numbers recently reported 92K cases with a death rate of 0.13%. That's the good news. Less good was that of the 117 deaths, 50 had been fully vaccinated. Those 50 were over the age of 50, and so in a higher risk category. Of the 8 under 50 who died, 2 had been partially vaccinated and 6 had not.

So the overreaction may be caused by the lack of a bullet proof vaccine, and people not getting vaccinated so we all get the suffer.

Personally, my view is, get vaccinated and let's get on with life. If you refuse to get vaccinated (inc your qualified kids) and there are restrictions due to low vaccination numbers, then STFU - you're part of the cause (of the restrictions), not the solution.
 
whatithink said:
Personally, my view is, get vaccinated and let's get on with life. If you refuse to get vaccinated (inc your qualified kids) and there are restrictions due to low vaccination numbers, then STFU - you're part of the cause (of the restrictions), not the solution.
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Ok tough guy.....lol!!! You have the same personal view as my best friend Colin. He was a no for jab, but because he wants to live & retire in Bali, he said he will now get the jab so he can get back to life. He's worn out and has had enough dude. Your attitude is why I have to move away and get away from scared folks. I see now it's going to be all my fault again too, just like when t won the election from HRC. You guys all act the same when you lose. I lost 45 Lbs already, no joke and will NEVER get the shot. I eat veggies and fruit and feel amazing. However, "what I think" thinks he knows it all. Let's have a wait and see pal before you condemn me and my wife and blame us for all the restrictions you now have. I see you guys working the angle. Look man, your little group cheated like shit and you know it. I'm appalled at some of you.
 
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My pal has a pal that lives in Long Beach. I've lived in Socal for 54 years and never ever have I seen the military doing "training exercise" in Socal cities." The port of LB is a very important area. Game on folks!!!!

www.military.com

Night Stalker MH-6 Drops Off Soldiers in Long Beach

Army training drills conducted on Wednesday in the Long Beach, CA area as loud explosions rang out and low-flying helicopters landed throughout the night!
www.military.com www.military.com
 
Grace T. said:
www.nytimes.com

8-Year-Olds in Despair: The Mental Health Crisis Is Getting Younger (Published 2021)

The number of children who need urgent mental health care has been on the rise for years, and spiked during the pandemic.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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If they can't get you before your born, they will sure try and make life shit for those with less. Military is doing "training exercises" as I speak so this shall pass soon. Man or man, the way these monsters treat kids is insane. Hold the line Grace, you're watching a movie :)
 
Grace T. said:
polimath.substack.com

Why the Vaccinated Account for 50% of COVID Infections In Israel

The headline seems alarming, but the mathematics of vaccine efficacy says that this is to be expected
polimath.substack.com polimath.substack.com
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CDC lady boss just said that if you got jabbed, your "safe" based on the what the USA is doing. Only 12% of the world is vaccine. USA & our British brethren are leading the pack with the must. Grace, the hate mail I'm getting is insane. I mean real hate and they want me out. That is why July 3rd is my last day. I will celebrate July 4th with style and I will NEVER come back to the forum. You can take that statement to da bank, hey now!!!! I had a three year contract and I have no desire to renew for another 12 months. I had a good talk with an old GOAT FC dad the other day. Dude was checking on my well being. Well, he saw with his eyes the transformation and then I should him the truth. He was blown away and give me the biggest hug ever. Saturday is my last day Grace and i mean that this time.
 
Last week I had lunch in Massachusetts with Martin Kulldorff, the Harvard Medical School professor who helped draft the Great Barrington Declaration, which condemned lockdowns as a public-health disaster.

I can't tell you how great it was.

That part didn't surprise me. What did surprise me: how few masks I saw even in Massachusetts.

I had assumed that that charade would persist for quite a while in the blue states. And yet there were far fewer masks than I expected.

With so much of normal life resuming so quickly, it's tempting to think that the issue is behind us and we can safely move on to other things.

And of course I have been discussing plenty of other things on the Tom Woods Show, and at times in these emails (which are worth reading even when not about COVID, my dear subscriber).

But a few words of caution:

(1) Many places outside the U.S. are still enduring inhumane lockdowns and those people matter, too.

(2) We cannot just let this rest. What these people did to us is unforgivable, and since we have something approaching control groups, we can know it was all essentially useless. We cannot allow the conventional wisdom to settle at: the mitigation measures saved countless lives, and the deaths we experienced were the fault of people's "bad behavior." That myth needs to be "exploded," to use a favorite word of Ludwig von Mises.

(3) The fanatics are emphasizing the "Delta variant," even though it isn't any more deadly. The UK has already exploited it as an excuse to break its promise regarding the end of restrictions. We have to carry on the fight to keep anything similar from happening in the U.S.

When the conventional wisdom is a pack of lies, it can influence future policy for decades to come.

The caricature that passes for knowledge of nineteenth-century economic history influences antitrust policy to this day. The false belief that "capitalism" caused the Great Depression and the financial crisis of 2008, and the equally false belief that the New Deal deserves credit for lifting the U.S. out of the Depression, continue to influence economic policy.

If we declare victory and walk away, lockdown will become yet another historical episode everyone misunderstood, and that in turn brought about future calamities.
 
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