Bad News Thread

I have no idea what that means.
It means you aren’t a great truth seeker. You aren’t a fact checker. You, with all your coocos and nonsense, in the end are just a plain little troll (even if you don’t recognize it and not even as good as busker at doing it), more concerned with scoring points and being right than truth, and this little exchange has once and for all proven it.
 
It means you aren’t a great truth seeker. You aren’t a fact checker. You, with all your coocos and nonsense, in the end are just a plain little troll (even if you don’t recognize it and not even as good as busker at doing it), more concerned with scoring points and being right than truth, and this little exchange has once and for all proven it.

How many points did I get in this little exchange?
 
You're impolite if you don't. ;)
Remember he also mentioned that during upcoming flu seasons he would probably wear a mask.

He refuses to realize they don't work. People were told they were crazy for pointing out viruses are so small that the mask filtration won't work.

Just last week Fauci in an email said the same thing and said your average mask is ineffective due to the small size of viruses.

But he continues on.

And of course he latest is saying it isn't fair to compare FL to CA.

Just digging for reasons to justify the lockdowns. Sad
 
You're impolite if you don't. ;)
So, masking to enable others to believe they aren't neurotic is polite. I thought it was just enabling.

Newsome doesn't want to give up his power. Not surprising. It's a human condition and Newsome smells the opportunity that the fear of many in CA (and on the message board) presents. It's as if many people here prefer to be told what to do whether it makes sense or not.

 
Remember he also mentioned that during upcoming flu seasons he would probably wear a mask.

He refuses to realize they don't work. People were told they were crazy for pointing out viruses are so small that the mask filtration won't work.

Just last week Fauci in an email said the same thing and said your average mask is ineffective due to the small size of viruses.

But he continues on.

And of course he latest is saying it isn't fair to compare FL to CA.

Just digging for reasons to justify the lockdowns. Sad
Power is a hell of a drug
 
Remember he also mentioned that during upcoming flu seasons he would probably wear a mask.

He refuses to realize they don't work. People were told they were crazy for pointing out viruses are so small that the mask filtration won't work.

Just last week Fauci in an email said the same thing and said your average mask is ineffective due to the small size of viruses.

But he continues on.

And of course he latest is saying it isn't fair to compare FL to CA.

Just digging for reasons to justify the lockdowns. Sad

It's not the virus the masks are trapping. It's the exhaled droplets the virus lives in or on.

The principal mode by which people are infected with SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) is through exposure to respiratory fluids carrying infectious virus. Exposure occurs in three principal ways: (1) inhalation of very fine respiratory droplets and aerosol particles, (2) deposition of respiratory droplets and particles on exposed mucous membranes in the mouth, nose, or eye by direct splashes and sprays, and (3) touching mucous membranes with hands that have been soiled either directly by virus-containing respiratory fluids or indirectly by touching surfaces with virus on them.

 
Power is a hell of a drug
K & S, I know one more drug that is even more powerful, blood!!!! Were all in this together bro. I saw the Gov doing lotto spin like a game show host the other night. $50,000 spin balls all for just getting the shot. This is starting to really creep me out. I understand evil and darkness, but this takes the cake,,,,,,,
 
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So, masking to enable others to believe they aren't neurotic is polite. I thought it was just enabling.

Newsome doesn't want to give up his power. Not surprising. It's a human condition and Newsome smells the opportunity that the fear of many in CA (and on the message board) presents. It's as if many people here prefer to be told what to do whether it makes sense or not.

Run the numbers on whether the Delta variant can grow in CA. I get a yes, even for highly vaccinated places like SCC. No hurricane. Just yet one more foothill.

I assume that you are vaccinated and therefore much much lower risk. The higher risk folks are Newsom’s constituents also. If delta gets going here, we will have another wave and yet more deaths and high medical bills for CA families. The governor would like to avoid that.

-Usagi
 
It's not the virus the masks are trapping. It's the exhaled droplets the virus lives in or on.

The principal mode by which people are infected with SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) is through exposure to respiratory fluids carrying infectious virus. Exposure occurs in three principal ways: (1) inhalation of very fine respiratory droplets and aerosol particles, (2) deposition of respiratory droplets and particles on exposed mucous membranes in the mouth, nose, or eye by direct splashes and sprays, and (3) touching mucous membranes with hands that have been soiled either directly by virus-containing respiratory fluids or indirectly by touching surfaces with virus on them.

Yep. Same way the flu is transmitted. CDC has decades of studies showing masks don't stop the flu either.

And as stated we have the head of the NIH in his email to a colleague saying masks don't work.

But carry on believing.
 
So, masking to enable others to believe they aren't neurotic is polite. I thought it was just enabling.

Newsome doesn't want to give up his power. Not surprising. It's a human condition and Newsome smells the opportunity that the fear of many in CA (and on the message board) presents. It's as if many people here prefer to be told what to do whether it makes sense or not.

I agree. We aren't obligated to indulge others neurosis...or their irrational fears. They're obligated to stay home if they're uncomfortable.

At this point wearing a mask is anti-social behavior if your vaccinated. If your not vaccinated you can: 1) get vaccinated or 2) assume the risk of living in the real world, or 3) stay home. To expect others to accommodate your phobias is the ultimate in selfishness.
 
Remember he also mentioned that during upcoming flu seasons he would probably wear a mask.

He refuses to realize they don't work. People were told they were crazy for pointing out viruses are so small that the mask filtration won't work.

Just last week Fauci in an email said the same thing and said your average mask is ineffective due to the small size of viruses.

But he continues on.

And of course he latest is saying it isn't fair to compare FL to CA.

Just digging for reasons to justify the lockdowns. Sad
The question is not whether the viruses are small. An isolated virus of that size would dry out. The virus hitches a ride on water. This is why people were talking about aerosols and droplets.

This us also why it helps that so many of the masks are cotton. Cotton has lots of hydrophilic bits on the fibers. This is why a cotton mask gets damp as you breathe into it. The hydrophilic parts of the cotton attract some of the aerosols and droplets you breathe out. As the water aerosols get stuck, so do the viruses.

So, if you want to ask whether a cotton masks catches aerosols, ask how heavy aerosols are, how strong the induced dipole in an aerosol is, how strong the fixed dipole in a cotton fiber is, and what fraction of aerosols will be sucked in by that dipole-dipole attraction. It’s much harder than comparing the size of the virus to the size of the hole. Fortunately, there are people who already did the work on this for you. if you are willing to listen to them. (Hint: they don’t work for Fox News.)

More recently, there is evidence that masks divert airflow up. You breathe out warm air, the mask keeps it from travelling straight forward, and convection takes it up, away from other people. You notice this because it also diverts the warm, moist air up into your glasses.

All of this was explained to you repeatedly. Instead, you parrot whatever you have been told by some right wing fringe site that combs through 2000 emails, finds the ones that can be taken out of context, and misrepresents them.

-Buzz
 
I agree. We aren't obligated to indulge others neurosis...or their irrational fears. They're obligated to stay home if they're uncomfortable.

At this point wearing a mask is anti-social behavior if your vaccinated. If your not vaccinated you can: 1) get vaccinated or 2) assume the risk of living in the real world, or 3) stay home. To expect others to accommodate your phobias is the ultimate in selfishness.
Most of the true American Warriors were killed off in WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam War, The Iraq and Afgani war. Good men & woman killed and their offspring not allowed to continue. All we got left is wimps, scientist and politicians calling the shots. Where or where are the true warriors that are still afraid to speak up? Are they all silent just because? I know why they can't speak up because their in a tough spot and don't want to rock the boat at work. That is wimp right there.
 
I agree. We aren't obligated to indulge others neurosis...or their irrational fears. They're obligated to stay home if they're uncomfortable.

At this point wearing a mask is anti-social behavior if your vaccinated. If your not vaccinated you can: 1) get vaccinated or 2) assume the risk of living in the real world, or 3) stay home. To expect others to accommodate your phobias is the ultimate in selfishness.
Just run the number and tell me what happens over the next 9 months if the India/Delta variant is in the US now with 100 or so cases, vaccinations are 10% above at current levels, and we return everything to 2019 standards.

Once you’ve done that, then tell me how severe my phobia is. Those are not unreasonable assumptions.
 
All of this was explained to you repeatedly. Instead, you parrot whatever you have been told by some right wing fringe site that combs through 2000 emails, finds the ones that can be taken out of context, and misrepresents them
So it is right wing now to review emails?

And the email in question regarding masks was not taken out if context. You are a believer and look for anything to justify your beliefs.

He was asked about risks and safety. Fauci said your typical masks are not capable of stopping something as small as a virus. He said masks are "ineffective".

That is not some right wing interpretation. That is exactly what he said and it wasn't taken out if context.

And that aligns with decades of research of mask effectiveness. They found that even in medical settings, used by people wearing them correctly, they had no effect in terms of stopping the transmission of the flu.

The only thing that changed this past yr was the politics of the issue and governments decided they needed the appearance of being able to do something. So they recommended masks.
 
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