Desert Hound
DA
This is your argument for long term restrictions and wearing useless masks
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I point out that your "small size of the viruses" comment was incorrect. Then you suggest that I am the one just believing.
Desert Hound
DA
Actually...phobia sums up your position perfectly. And explains why you argue as you do.
You have a phobia.
Desert Hound
DA
So you are saying Fauci is incorrect when he refers to the small size of viruses?
Same as flu?
Ok. Let’s find out what you know about the flu.
First, tell us which whether flu has a protein coat, whether covid has a protein coat, and the role of a protein coat in hardening a virus. This will affect whether isolated virus particles can spread through the mask.
Once you have done that, tell us whether flu likes larger or smaller water drops, whether covid likes larger or smaller droplets, and how particle size affects the probability that a water particle will be diverted by the dipole interactions with those hydrophilic bits.
You can do it! It’s just like Milliken’s oil drop experiment, except the particles are different sizes. That gives you a square/cube law problem, because goes by the cube of the radius, but dipole moment is different….
Next, show us your aging study about masks and influenza source control. We’ll want to know the size of the study, and the error bounds on the estimated effect on transmissibility. You should be able to find something like “95% confident that the effect of masks is between negative 57% and positive 45%”. If you’re really lucky, they will tell you the size of the effect the stidy was capable, and not capable, of finding. For example, the Dutch study was designed to detect a 50% decrease in transmission to the wearer. ( It failed to do so. )
I’ll bet that you haven’t a clue how to do any of that.
Provide a link to your silly smoking gun email. We can read it for you and tell you what they were really saying.
Desert Hound
DA
You have Google. Look it up it is easy. Stop pretending you can't and/or the email was taken out if context
Bingo. He fears death and......
No offense but I don't need to run any numbers to determine that you have a severe phobia. You've proven it over 298 pages. The sky is not falling and none of your worst case scenarios have come true.
Even if we run into some future bumps with the virus, which I don't expect, but are possible, we are way past the point of further lockdowns which would be untenable, unreasonable and unproductive.
We're both entitled to our own phobias, but were not entitled to have the public cater to them. It's our own personal responsibility deal with them. You don't have to come out of your bunker, but we're not required to join you.
These Dads in Cali are milk toast wimps bro. I can;t take it anymore. I had one ask me kindly to wear my mask this morning. I kindly said i had my "Vs" and he said, "ok, but can you please put mask on. People are scared still." I said no more and he said, "ok."
I said 2 months ago that my opinion on ending masks depends on what we learn about variants.
Since then, we have found a variant that is much more transmissible than the UK and LA variants. Turns out it is also more able to cause damage to younger people.
Which means we have to keep some of our anti-covid measures longer. Which sucks, in a first world problem kind of way. It sucks even more for the countries which will be facing the same thing with almost no vaccines.
You made the claim. It is your responsibility to provide the link.
"Dr. Fauci still has his job, Donald Trump doesn't." -- Republican strategist Susan Del Percio, today.
You are saying that we, as a society, should make a trade. Accept 50K additional deaths. In return, we do not have to wear masks.
That is a bad deal. The cost of 50K deaths is not worth the benefit of 9 months without masks.
School and business closures are a different question. But masks? You really want to accept a significantly higher death rate just to avoid masks?
I'm following the "science" of the CDC.
Link? I have no idea which of the emails you are referring to. Sounds like you’re quoting Fauci from February, 2020, and some decades old influenza studies that never had the sample size to detect a moderate effect.
Interesting. Did you have your Vs?
Florida & Texas stay open, but that doesn’t have anything to do with the numbers.
Do you believe in God, yes or no? Today is D-Day so answer honestly too. No more freaking lies, ok? If you answer correctly, I will answer honestly with you. If no answer to my God Q, then sorry Charlie, no "V" answer.....lol. Come on man
It isn't the numbers- not even the financial ones. There is no economic case for TX ending the mask mandates or FL picking a fight with the cruise ship industry. Those are political attempts to win the anti-mask and anti-vax vote.
If you want to help the economy, you allow vaccine passports for high risk industries. Carnival can sell more tickets to “100% vaccinated” cruises than they can sell for unvaccinated cruises.
Ummm… Carnival can sell more cruise tickets when everyone can buy them, vaccinated or not. Are you sure you understand their business model and customers?
Sometimes we speak to fast and only from our own perspective. Think about your statement and if you still believe it after considering consumer behavior, demographics, basic economics and plain logic…. I’d love to hear your reason.