Bad News Thread

[dad4]

Interesting....caveated that small retail has problems with contact tracing, and restaurant contact tracing is imperfect and there's this large undetermined section and data is limited but....

"Bars, gyms and restaurants. Those were just a few settings health experts warned could become hotbeds for COVID 19 spread....yet public data analyzed by ABC News appears to tell a diifferent story....only accounted for a small percentage, if any, of new outbreaks after the pandemic's initial wave in 2020" My guess is that because while indoor bars, gyms and restaurants may not be advisable on an individual/micro basis for any individual since it represents a significant rise in risk profile, because so many people freak out and because of the mitigation protocols in effect on a macro level the footprint just isn't that big.

Health care and social assistance has a moderate footprint of 2% despite the vaccination drive targeting health care workers early on.

Religious gatherings proved to be especially a problem in North Carolina.

Factory and animal food processing workers were particularly at risk (probably because of the long time of exposure).

Schools also have represented a bit of an outbreak problem, particularly in college settings, though there were outbreaks reported in K-12.

Where COVID-19 has and hasn't spread since states reopened: Analysis

A look at public health data in several states by ABC News revealed the locations of the most COVID-19 outbreaks following their reopenings.

abcnews.go.com

Sounds like the story was run before it had anything to back it up.

Your first sentence explains the flaw in the abc methodology. If your contact tracing doesn’t work well in gyms, then contact tracing can’t tell you much about gyms.

You expect the contact tracing to return almost no information about gyms. And, when you use it, it returns almost no information.

How is that interesting? It’s like reading the printout when the printer is completely out of toner. I expected a blank sheet of paper, and I got one. To be interesting, shouldn’t it contain some information?

 

[Grace T.]

Sounds like the story was run before it had anything to back it up.

Your first sentence explains the flaw in the abc methodology. If your contact tracing doesn’t work well in gyms, then contact tracing can’t tell you much about gyms.

You expect the contact tracing to return almost no information about gyms. And, when you use it, it returns almost no information.

How is that interesting? It’s like reading the printout when the printer is completely out of toner. I expected a blank sheet of paper, and I got one. To be interesting, shouldn’t it contain some information?

Funny how you love certain news sources and certain experts when they agree with you......

Yeah I acknowledged the limitations. Still it's interesting for what it's worth in its limited value. they could have said it's just inconclusive. and acknowledged the blank sheet of paper but they didn't.

 

[crush]

Poking fun at your choice of words, not your personal choice regarding a vaccine...

You went from ‘Let’s make a deal’ to I choose not to do so to deny those that would sin against you (in your opinion).

I’ll admit to being devout to my beliefs, but I don’t see this discussion as religious in nature and I don’t see why you pepper your posts on this topic with religious overtones and imagery.

You don’t want the vaccine and don’t want to feel pressured/required to take it. Nuff said.

Proselytize all you want, but please don’t conflate your personal beliefs with religion... it gives the wrong impression.

You and I disagree. This is not about religion, nuff said.

 

[crush]

 

[crush]

Or "tricked" into trying to become a millionaire by taking the shots. If you dont win $1,000,000, then second place is free fries at Shake Shack.

 

[crush]

I told anyone WHO would listen that it's a choice of Light or Darkness. Q for all the smart academics ((Interesting that demic is in the word Aca demic)). JB has now made it a simple choice. Get the shot or wear mask until you get your shot, the choice is yours. Yay, we have freedom finally. I will sit down with my wife and decide together. This is going to be a very difficult decision for each of us.

 

[Grace T.]

I told anyone WHO would listen that it's a choice of Light or Darkness. Q for all the smart academics ((Interesting that demic is in the word Aca demic)). JB has now made it a simple choice. Get the shot or wear mask until you get your shot, the choice is yours. Yay, we have freedom finally. I will sit down with my wife and decide together. This is going to be a very difficult decision for each of us.

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A. Talking to people like a teacher talks to 3rd graders is going to persuade no one
B. The unvaccinated will just lie and go without
C. The only people this is going to hurt are 2-12 year old who will continue to have to wear masks as a result (newsom has “clarified” a couple times on the masks are gone statement....we’ll see what he does with this)
D. The summer camp guidance revision that’s coming out will be interesting as a result....basically if you are vaccinated normal experience probably but if not then maybe not

 

[crush]

A. Talking to people like a teacher talks to 3rd graders is going to persuade no one
B. The unvaccinated will just lie and go without
C. The only people this is going to hurt are 2-12 year old who will continue to have to wear masks as a result (newsom has “clarified” a couple times on the masks are gone statement....we’ll see what he does with this)
D. The summer camp guidance revision that’s coming out will be interesting as a result....basically if you are vaccinated normal experience probably but if not then maybe not

Grace, what is your prediction regarding my wife and I who have worked their asses off to be the healthiest ever? Can I just give a verbal V sign? 14 months ago I dreamed of putting on a pair of Levi's that were size 32. My son said, "no way dad." Last night, they fit perfect and a little loose. So now i'm going for size 30. Swimming, walking, eating veggies, fruits and nuts has done wonders. I also told my son I will have six pack before I'm 55. Well, I'm getting close. Super super hard and takes saying "no" to temptation. For example, when I was living a nightmare four years ago trying to keep up with all the Normal Families, I was eating the worse kind of foods on the road all because I was trying to retire some day. I was 218 but looking 235. I also got ripped off by some asshats, but that was my fault and I learned my lesson. I took personal responsibility with my inner pain and decided to go inside first ((my brain)) and took control of bad habits I was making and made that change. I'm so happy I did

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Interesting....caveated that small retail has problems with contact tracing, and restaurant contact tracing is imperfect and there's this large undetermined section and data is limited but....

"Bars, gyms and restaurants. Those were just a few settings health experts warned could become hotbeds for COVID 19 spread....yet public data analyzed by ABC News appears to tell a diifferent story....only accounted for a small percentage, if any, of new outbreaks after the pandemic's initial wave in 2020" My guess is that because while indoor bars, gyms and restaurants may not be advisable on an individual/micro basis for any individual since it represents a significant rise in risk profile, because so many people freak out and because of the mitigation protocols in effect on a macro level the footprint just isn't that big.

Health care and social assistance has a moderate footprint of 2% despite the vaccination drive targeting health care workers early on.

Religious gatherings proved to be especially a problem in North Carolina.

Factory and animal food processing workers were particularly at risk (probably because of the long time of exposure).

Schools also have represented a bit of an outbreak problem, particularly in college settings, though there were outbreaks reported in K-12.

Where COVID-19 has and hasn't spread since states reopened: Analysis

A look at public health data in several states by ABC News revealed the locations of the most COVID-19 outbreaks following their reopenings.

abcnews.go.com

Due diligence did not apply to the case hysteria crowd. Socialism is establishing multiple foot holds.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

CDC has torched its public trust.....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1392818997465423875

On Thursday, the governors of Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, and Virginia, and the mayors of New York City and Washington, D.C., all Democrats, said they were taking the new guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under advisement before adopting it. In deference to local authorities, the C.D.C. said vaccinated people must continue to abide by existing state, local, or tribal laws and regulations, and follow local rules for businesses and workplaces.

 

[crush]

On Thursday, the governors of Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, and Virginia, and the mayors of New York City and Washington, D.C., all Democrats, said they were taking the new guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under advisement before adopting it. In deference to local authorities, the C.D.C. said vaccinated people must continue to abide by existing state, local, or tribal laws and regulations, and follow local rules for businesses and workplaces.

Bruddah, I did a test this morning at a store I wont name. I walked in without my mask and gave my local grocery store manager a "V" sign for victory and he told me I need mask. He had a plastic bag full of mask and tried to give me one. I told him I had all my "V's" and you have nothing to be worried about plus, the CDC and the Prez said I dont need a mask anymore. He got so pissed off. He said, "you can;t shop this store without mask according to state law." No joke. I said, "it's a law?" He then goes, "you can shop somewhere else, I dont have time for this." Guess what I did Bruddah?

 

[watfly]

CDC has torched its public trust.....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1392818997465423875

The CDC and our political leadership's lack of candor and arbitrary restrictions during this pandemic is going to make it very difficult to respond to the next pandemic. They "cried wolf" when it was really just a big dog. CDC and other health organizations have lost the public trust of many.

The fact that kids still have to wear masks is completely irresponsible.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Sounds like the story was run before it had anything to back it up.

The story of SARS has been run many times before without PCR testing and thus case hysteria. You cowards have been avoiding the facts from the start.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Bruddah, I did a test this morning at a store I wont name. I walked in without my mask and gave my local grocery store manager a "V" sign for victory and he told me I need mask. He had a plastic bag full of mask and tried to give me one. I told him I had all my "V's" and you have nothing to be worried about plus, the CDC and the Prez said I dont need a mask anymore. He got so pissed off. He said, "you can;t shop this store without mask according to state law." No joke. I said, "it's a law?" He then goes, "you can shop somewhere else, I dont have time for this." Guess what I did Bruddah?

You prayed for him. In Jesus name.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Bruddah, I did a test this morning at a store I wont name. I walked in without my mask and gave my local grocery store manager a "V" sign for victory and he told me I need mask. He had a plastic bag full of mask and tried to give me one. I told him I had all my "V's" and you have nothing to be worried about plus, the CDC and the Prez said I dont need a mask anymore. He got so pissed off. He said, "you can;t shop this store without mask according to state law." No joke. I said, "it's a law?" He then goes, "you can shop somewhere else, I dont have time for this." Guess what I did Bruddah?

The new policy seemed to catch many retailers and their workers by surprise. Macy’s, Target and the Gap said they were still reviewing the new guidance, while Home Depot said it had no plans to change its current rules requiring customers and workers to wear masks in its stores.

The United Food and Commercial Workers union, representing thousands of grocery store workers, criticized the C.D.C. for failing to consider how the new policy would impact workers who have to deal with customers who are not vaccinated. “Millions of Americans are doing the right thing and getting vaccinated, but essential workers are still forced to play mask police for shoppers who are unvaccinated and refuse to follow local Covid safety measures,” the union’s president, Marc Perrone, said in a statement. “Are they now supposed to become the vaccination police?”

The Retail Leaders Industry Association, a trade group, said that the policy complicated matters in states that still have mask mandates in place that retailers must follow. “These conflicting positions put retailers and their employees in incredibly difficult situations,” the group said in a statement.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Funny how you love certain news sources and certain experts when they agree with you......

Yeah I acknowledged the limitations. Still it's interesting for what it's worth in its limited value. they could have said it's just inconclusive. and acknowledged the blank sheet of paper but they didn't.

Mic drop.

 

[crush]

You prayed for him. In Jesus name.

I should have and I just did for him. I also asked for forgiveness for my antagonizing him. I need to do better. I really can;t shop take it anymore with the mask lie. I will stay home until the pros fix this. I think something might go down today or this weekend that will help most of us get along. We've all been played. Thank you for that slap from a good brother

 

[Bruddah IZ]

I should have and I just did for him. I also asked for forgiveness for my antagonizing him. I need to do better. I really can;t shop take it anymore with the mask lie. I will stay home until the pros fix this. I think something might go down today or this weekend that will help most of us get along. We've all been played. Thank you for that slap from a good brother

Amen. But I was just being sarcastic. I love God's sarcasm in Job.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

The CDC has been super slow when it comes to updating their guidelines. What more time do states and companies who refuse to jump on board need, then? If they're not going to be listening to the CDC, who are they going to be listening to? What left is there to review?

It's time to embrace not only science, but freedom.

 

[crush]

The United Food and Commercial Workers union, representing thousands of grocery store workers, criticized the C.D.C. for failing to consider how the new policy would impact workers who have to deal with customers who are not vaccinated. “Millions of Americans are doing the right thing and getting vaccinated, but essential workers are still forced to play mask police for shoppers who are unvaccinated and refuse to follow local Covid safety measures,” the union’s president, Marc Perrone, said in a statement. “Are they now supposed to become the vaccination police?”

The Retail Leaders Industry Association, a trade group, said that the policy complicated matters in states that still have mask mandates in place that retailers must follow. “These conflicting positions put retailers and their employees in incredibly difficult situations,” the group said in a statement.

Thanks Mark for the kind thoughs on the unV people. What a joke!!! This is what I just went through. He's says the right thing to do is to put Dr F and BG's crap in my body. The manager just played police with me and it went bad for both of us. I'm a nice guy too, Just wait. What a divisive bull dung we all have to deal with now. WHO is telling us the truth? I will lay low until June 15th, that's when CA will be in the clear.