5 biological men roster wins Australian women's soccer league title & also undefeated this season

This is just ignorance and bigotry. first off a cross dresser is not necessarily a trans individual. Some may be performers, some may be gay, some may be trans in waiting. Second there’s a lot of data that suggests that trans individuals have different brain structures than cis individuals and those differences resemble those of the opposite biological sex. Third there’s data that suggests there’s an autism link Now you might be willing to suggest that someone with autism has a mental illness (and as someone on the spectrum I’d take extreme umbrage to that). You might also be willing to suggest that a kid with adhd has a mental illness. Perhaps given your picture you might even be willing to suggest someone who is gay has a mental illness. While psychology used to qualify these conditions as mental illnesses it has moved away from that thinking towards understanding while these might be neurological or structural differences with the brain, or even mental conditions, they are certainly not illness. Moreover at least when it comes to trans individuals there is no known treatment for the condition that ease it. Most of them aren’t delusion…they don’t think their chromosomes magically warp to the opposite gender…but there is something physiologically different to them. Your post reeks of anti gay bigotry. Your post reeks of disability bigotry. While it is certainly possible for reasonable people to disagree on the exact accommodations offered trans people, this is not cool. Dare you to show your children this post. It’s offensive. And btw if you find yourself nodding along to his post, it says something about whether you are one of the good guys.

No Grace I’m just tired of all the nonsense. All the new terms, made up words and all the let’s just stick this new pseudo science in your face in the name of progressivism and Neo scholars. Im done with this state and as soon as my daughters graduate I’m going back to Texas.
 
No Grace I’m just tired of all the nonsense. All the new terms, made up words and all the let’s just stick this new pseudo science in your face in the name of progressivism and Neo scholars. Im done with this state and as soon as my daughters graduate I’m going back to Texas.

I get the frustration with progressivism. I’m sympathetic. My sports position is moderate and I don’t believe in drag shows for kids either or pre transitioned boys in the girls locker room. But facts are facts: the large portion of trans people that transition are not cross dressers out for shits and giggles (have you read about the procedure…it’s horrifying), and this quite clearly has a physiological basis even if it’s just autism related. That doesn’t change the fact that your post was anti gay, anti disability and ignorant. I hear you on the frustration but you should be ashamed of that post. I’d venture your kids probably would be ashamed of it and most certainly your grandkids should you be lucky enough to have them. You can have a reasoned position on the issues (which isn’t bigotry) without sinking into something offensive to numerous groups of people beyond just the trans.
 
I get the frustration with progressivism. I’m sympathetic. My sports position is moderate and I don’t believe in drag shows for kids either or pre transitioned boys in the girls locker room. But facts are facts: the large portion of trans people that transition are not cross dressers out for shits and giggles (have you read about the procedure…it’s horrifying), and this quite clearly has a physiological basis even if it’s just autism related. That doesn’t change the fact that your post was anti gay, anti disability and ignorant. I hear you on the frustration but you should be ashamed of that post. I’d venture your kids probably would be ashamed of it and most certainly your grandkids should you be lucky enough to have them. You can have a reasoned position on the issues (which isn’t bigotry) without sinking into something offensive to numerous groups of people beyond just the trans.
Fair enough… it’s one thing to have rights and I’m all for peoples individual rights and for them expressing themselves in whatever way they like but when you force these radical views down peoples throats and you don’t give back the same respect that they themselves seek then you can assure people will fight back and you will see lots of conservatives lose it and become irrational like lefties. Things like forcing ideologies and narratives in public schools to our children or forcing men in women’s sports etc. you will see people fight back and become irrational in the process.
 
Fair enough… it’s one thing to have rights and I’m all for peoples individual rights and for them expressing themselves in whatever way they like but when you force these radical views down peoples throats and you don’t give back the same respect that they themselves seek then you can assure people will fight back and you will see lots of conservatives lose it and become irrational like lefties. Things like forcing ideologies and narratives in public schools to our children or forcing men in women’s sports etc. you will see people fight back and become irrational in the process.
Fair enough…but as I said I admire your intellectual chops and you are better than what just did.
 
This is just ignorance and bigotry. first off a cross dresser is not necessarily a trans individual. Some may be performers, some may be gay, some may be trans in waiting. Second there’s a lot of data that suggests that trans individuals have different brain structures than cis individuals and those differences resemble those of the opposite biological sex. Third there’s data that suggests there’s an autism link
What is Lia Grace? I agree with you regarding the performance part. Most of the MTFs and Drag Queen performers love acting and being at the center of attention. The Trans like Lia trying to play sports with and against the girls is a big problem. 6 4' lady and packing a pistol. I have no problem with Drag Queen performers, cross dressers, gay or straight. The guy I know is not gay, he just loves to dress up like a lady. My problem is a dude playing volleyball and causing one girl to have brain damage. You have to see the difference, Grace. The last part is the deceit part.
 
Fair enough… it’s one thing to have rights and I’m all for peoples individual rights and for them expressing themselves in whatever way they like but when you force these radical views down peoples throats and you don’t give back the same respect that they themselves seek then you can assure people will fight back and you will see lots of conservatives lose it and become irrational like lefties. Things like forcing ideologies and narratives in public schools to our children or forcing men in women’s sports etc. you will see people fight back and become irrational in the process.
100%. The Christian Nationalist on Truth Social expects America to go back to church every Sunday at 10am or else. These guys and their women are hardcore traditionalist. Dad works and mom stays home to cook, clean, change diapers and is always ready for play time when hubby gives her that look, and she best be ready. Many of these families have 6+ kids. I think this lifestyle scares the lefties, especially weak men and selfish women who would rather have an abortion. I'm being dramatic here to make a point bro. Personally, I just want to be left alone. I'm so for, "to each his own and freedom." However, Lia is not freedom. Lia is a cheater and a total loser, and the NCAA helped her beat women. Not only is she a loser, but she is also packing a big pistol that rivals "Big Mike." Riley Gaines was forced to see this one eye beast. The fact I'm writing about this on a soccer forum is insane. Our women's soccer team has committed to the first openly MTF player. I'm not sure who that will be, but she will take a spot from a real biological woman and that pisses me off. These girls work so hard and to have a Lia go from the Men's team to the girls' team is morally wrong. I do believe some males have snuck in the game with the tuck and will be revealed at the proper time. Some MTFs infiltrated politics as well Veritas.
 
100%. The Christian Nationalist on Truth Social expects America to go back to church every Sunday at 10am or else. These guys and their women are hardcore traditionalist. Dad works and mom stays home to cook, clean, change diapers and is always ready for play time when hubby gives her that look, and she best be ready. Many of these families have 6+ kids. I think this lifestyle scares the lefties, especially weak men and selfish women who would rather have an abortion. I'm being dramatic here to make a point bro. Personally, I just want to be left alone. I'm so for, "to each his own and freedom." However, Lia is not freedom. Lia is a cheater and a total loser, and the NCAA helped her beat women. Not only is she a loser, but she is also packing a big pistol that rivals "Big Mike." Riley Gaines was forced to see this one eye beast. The fact I'm writing about this on a soccer forum is insane. Our women's soccer team has committed to the first openly MTF player. I'm not sure who that will be, but she will take a spot from a real biological woman and that pisses me off. These girls work so hard and to have a Lia go from the Men's team to the girls' team is morally wrong. I do believe some males have snuck in the game with the tuck and will be revealed at the proper time. Some MTFs infiltrated politics as well Veritas.
Very true crush. I hope the Lia Thomas situation never repeats again. To think they allowed it was insane. Women need to stand together and boycott these MTF participants. They need to fight for their right to real women only sports
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This position kinda makes sense. If athletics is just about health and recreation, on the one hand, or entertainment and making the buck on the other, it lowers the stakes drastically. It would upend title ix, as well as athletic preferences for colleges, but your position is consistent that way. If you believe the telos of sport is not about merit but at worst just a recreational activity and best a best in show dog contest (which also involves some prep and investment on the part of the owner) this is logically consistent. Good point.

Out of curiosity, what’s your take on awarding merits such as college admissions based on iq tests (like the sat) or grades and course work (Rawls argues even studiousness is a genetic gift)? Not a gotcha. Just intrigued by the argument as i agree if athletics is not about merits it doesn’t matter.
wrt the last piece, I like the system in countries like the UK & Ireland. National syllabus for every course, national exams, grades correlate to scores, and courses have a score to attend. You know what score you need to get (although it can go up based on demand) to do the course you want, so go for it. None of this total and absolute BS about essays and service hours and extracurricular activities that students have to do to apply for colleges, ffs!!!

As for paying for it, the countries above have some costs, but nothing like here (nobody has anything like the US). Australia for example (afaik) has free college, but a grad tax, so you still pay, but only once you have graduated and entered the work force.
 
Well that’s typically how disability law works. Accommodations aren’t perfect. For example we require installation of handicapped accessible bathrooms in all new and remodeled public bathrooms but not (most) older public ones or private homes.

Details tbd and subject to fluctuation re acceptable levels (which btw ftms are already policed in higher competition because testosterone is a ped…we actually are doing this for them already). Up until 5 years ago scientists thought you could compensate for male puberty through suppressants but in at least track and swimming we now know that’s wrong. Adjustments will need to be made along the way. Some like soccer might not reach critical mass. But a short bus is better than no bus and it will dramatically improve the situation of ftm who right now are stuck.
I just saw a one-armed freestyle swim race. What incredible athletes, they'd probably beat Phelps if they had two arms.

Which brings me to my point. It seems that Special Olympics would be the perfect fit for your T based league. It already has the infrastrucuture and they would just be adding one additional category to their programs. Its also consistent with your position that DSD and TG is comparable with other conditions like impaired vision. With a SO division for the blind, a DSD/TG division would be a natural extension of the SO existing divisions.
 
She has been suspended for life by WBO and gets no prize money. If she truly is a biological female with a real vagina, I will be the first to eat crow and say sorry and say, "I was wrong." This would be illegal as well and flat out wrong. Based on what my eyes see and what I have read, she was born he biologically, but the old man wanted a girl. He is beating the shit out of the girls and that's not fair, especially in boxing for Gods sakes.

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More complicated than that. She's XY, with a vagina. Born that way.
 
wrt the last piece, I like the system in countries like the UK & Ireland. National syllabus for every course, national exams, grades correlate to scores, and courses have a score to attend. You know what score you need to get (although it can go up based on demand) to do the course you want, so go for it. None of this total and absolute BS about essays and service hours and extracurricular activities that students have to do to apply for colleges, ffs!!!

As for paying for it, the countries above have some costs, but nothing like here (nobody has anything like the US). Australia for example (afaik) has free college, but a grad tax, so you still pay, but only once you have graduated and entered the work force.
Many of our colleges and universities are sitting on multi billion dollar endowments yet still charge exorbitant amounts for tuition and in some cases room and board. They should be taxed on those endowments or restricted from govenment funding if they dont spend a certain percentage on reducing tuition costs. I understand that there are restrictions on some gifts but I believe it could be done in a number ways, even just with interest or investment income.

Im also a big believer in more promotion of trade schools.
 
I just saw a one-armed freestyle swim race. What incredible athletes, they'd probably beat Phelps if they had two arms.

Which brings me to my point. It seems that Special Olympics would be the perfect fit for your T based league. It already has the infrastrucuture and they would just be adding one additional category to their programs. Its also consistent with your position that DSD and TG is comparable with other conditions like impaired vision. With a SO division for the blind, a DSD/TG division would be a natural extension of the SO existing divisions.
I like this idea watty👍
 
"Secret Lives of the Cross Dressers" is coming to light. Chuck is not the only one. The French dude had sex with his hot for teacher when he was 15 and he was 40.

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Oh gosh, I about spit out my peanut butter from my sandwich. See men, ya!!!

Actually there does seem to be a correlation between investment in sport and outcome. Whether the U.S. and China at the top of the Olympic table, of the sums the top 5 pay for players in the epl. While the correlation is harder one to one on the individual level, on the aggregate macro level it’s outlined in the soccer economics book how investment and performance are correlated.
What does this mean?

"Whether the U.S. and China at the top of the Olympic table, of the sums the top 5 pay for players in the epl"
 
I shared this before Veritas and it's worth repeating. My wife's friends' husband is a cross dresser and nothing more than that. He's actually not a bad looking woman. He says everyone thinks he's a woman when he's out looking for attention and guys hit on him all the time, they think he's a a lady and that's the joy he receives to deceive. He doesn't like men at all, just loves the attention. He's a better-looking guy, moo. His legs are 100% feminine and that's why it's impossible to think he's a man. The guys playing sports as women is different altogether.
That's fucked up.
 
This is just ignorance and bigotry. first off a cross dresser is not necessarily a trans individual. Some may be performers, some may be gay, some may be trans in waiting. Second there’s a lot of data that suggests that trans individuals have different brain structures than cis individuals and those differences resemble those of the opposite biological sex. Third there’s data that suggests there’s an autism link

Now you might be willing to suggest that someone with autism has a mental illness (and as someone on the spectrum I’d take extreme umbrage to that). You might also be willing to suggest that a kid with adhd has a mental illness. Perhaps given your picture you might even be willing to suggest someone who is gay has a mental illness. While psychology used to qualify these conditions as mental illnesses it has moved away from that thinking towards understanding while these might be neurological or structural differences with the brain, or even mental conditions, they are certainly not illness. Moreover at least when it comes to trans individuals there is no known treatment for the condition that ease it. Most of them aren’t delusion…they don’t think their chromosomes magically warp to the opposite gender…but there is something physiologically different to them.

Your post reeks of anti gay bigotry. Your post reeks of disability bigotry. While it is certainly possible for reasonable people to disagree on the exact accommodations offered trans people, this is not cool. Dare you to show your children this post. It’s offensive.

And btw if you find yourself nodding along to his post, it says something about whether you are one of the good guys.
Untrue. It's not "anti gay bigotry". It's anti 'quit shoving this bullshit down our throats and acting like sadistic morons when we don't take you seriously.' Stop tell us your pronouns of "they, them" aren't plural. They are and always have been. Social media has almost single handedly turned the human race into babbling idiots. "Men can menstruate and have babies." No, they can't and never have. Just because you've been a man for 35-years and now want to call yourself a "woman", we're not taking you seriously... especially when you claim you can give birth. You can call yourself a unicorn if you want, but the rest of us sane people won't. Same with these idiot "furries" in schools. When you ask for a little box because the school doesn't make you feel safe using the restroom, you need medication. Mother's Day will remain as such because only a moron would call it Birthing Person Day.

Again, none of this bullshit is about being "equal" or treated equally, it's about getting attention.
 
I get the frustration with progressivism. I’m sympathetic. My sports position is moderate and I don’t believe in drag shows for kids either or pre transitioned boys in the girls locker room. But facts are facts: the large portion of trans people that transition are not cross dressers out for shits and giggles (have you read about the procedure…it’s horrifying), and this quite clearly has a physiological basis even if it’s just autism related. That doesn’t change the fact that your post was anti gay, anti disability and ignorant. I hear you on the frustration but you should be ashamed of that post. I’d venture your kids probably would be ashamed of it and most certainly your grandkids should you be lucky enough to have them. You can have a reasoned position on the issues (which isn’t bigotry) without sinking into something offensive to numerous groups of people beyond just the trans.
Nobody cares about gay people or trans people or cross dressers or why they do it. We're tired of the ignorance. When Bud Light hires a skinny gay guy to dress up like Audrey Hepburn and say he's celebrating 'womanhood', that's bullshit. Pure and simple. It's the dumbing down of American and YOU should be insulted by it like everyone else. Go play dress up. Go lop your mouse off. Go have your gay relationship. But the idea that you deserve special attention is not acceptable. The rest of us are sick of all the attention seeking behavior.
 
What is Lia Grace? I agree with you regarding the performance part. Most of the MTFs and Drag Queen performers love acting and being at the center of attention. The Trans like Lia trying to play sports with and against the girls is a big problem. 6 4' lady and packing a pistol. I have no problem with Drag Queen performers, cross dressers, gay or straight. The guy I know is not gay, he just loves to dress up like a lady. My problem is a dude playing volleyball and causing one girl to have brain damage. You have to see the difference, Grace. The last part is the deceit part.
Lia Thomas is Thomas Lia... a sorry ass dude that figured growing his hair out and putting on a woman's suit would make him a more prolific swimmer. In other words, he's a pathetic loser and deserves every second of criticism HE gets.
 
Many of our colleges and universities are sitting on multi billion dollar endowments yet still charge exorbitant amounts for tuition and in some cases room and board. They should be taxed on those endowments or restricted from govenment funding if they dont spend a certain percentage on reducing tuition costs. I understand that there are restrictions on some gifts but I believe it could be done in a number ways, even just with interest or investment income.

Im also a big believer in more promotion of trade schools.
I'm a believer that when your name is Fauxahontas and you're paid $400k a year to teach part time at Harvard, you have a lot of nerve supporting "student loan debt relief" by dumping that debt on hardworking tax payers like everyone here reading this.
 
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