I'm not entirely opposed to it. Adolescence is usually the appropriate time for people to correct or choose to improve their genetic and developmental lot in life through medically-supervised administration of steroids and growth hormones, and in many cases steroids that would cause a PED test failure are the best medication for some diseases.
Err....we disagree.Errr....1. Showers/locker rooms are a different issue. Just because you let someone play ECNL ball doesn't necessarily follow they have to shower together. and 2. you conveniently ignore that you have the opposite issue because there are people (however rare) going the other way. If you care about you dear daughter being in the same locker room as equipment you still need to address the issue with something other than the biological test. I'm not saying there shouldn't be the rule (I wouldn't want my dear daughter to be forced to see equipment if she didn't want to), but yours doesn't get you there. sorry but 3. this sounds a lot like the talk about gay service men and how they should have been banned from the military....men and women would have to have people from the same gender looking at them in the shower....there's a bunch of solutions to it (I personally think we should implement the Starship Troopers solution.....everyone gets to see everyone else's equipment). What lots of county and school districts have done is implement privacy changing areas and showers.
You don't care if your daughter sees equipment....the equipment isn't what is motivating you...you only don't want them to be in the locker room with someone who is xy????
Wow, lot's of presumes on your part. The shower part can be dealt with so no need to debate that. BTW, I just read a story out of Ohio where a Transgender raped a girl in the girls bathroom on HS campus. Equipment used like that is pure evil! My compliant is the physical advantage and that's it. My best pal's son does Drag Queen shows Grace. Super cool guy and would never allow any kids to the shows. No library performance. His shows have drinks so you must be 21 to enter. If my son came to me at 16 and told me, "dad, I now identify as a women and my new name is Trixie. Also, I quit the boys team and now I want to play on the girls team and go beat other girls in soccer and I need your help." I would love Trixie no less then when I loved her as my boy. However, I would tell Trixie she needs to beat on the boys to get better and the girls will not make you a better futboler.You don't care if your daughter sees equipment....the equipment isn't what is motivating you...you only don't want them to be in the locker room with someone who is xy????
p.s. presumably you don't care either if your dear daughter is being ogled by a fellow student or gym teacher that is lesbian?
Surf Futbol, you have some good takes at times but this has to be one of your worst takes ever, moo
I don't want men saying their now women to play sports with girls. Simple is simple. We agree to disagree. I love all people. I told you about my pal Mike who dressed up as a women at times and went to drag shows. Mike feels like a women and prefers dressing up as a women but even he just told me he agrees with me. I like that you and Grace like each other on this topic. Ancient Mother or Mother Nature is coming to take her rightful place in the Divine. Men have made a complete mess of this planet and now they want to take away female all together. This is straight up whack man. I love all my frens in the LBGT+ Community. However, if your born a man, then you can only play against the men. If your born a female and you want to challenge the men, then it's ok. It's about the physical and not the equipment. I could care a less if you want to be a women play dress up part time. It's your choice Surf Futbol and just be you man.
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Asking people to name a girl who lost a slot to a mtf trans athlete is equivalent to asking people to name the youth athletes in question. Don‘t ask for that. Let the kids have their privacy.
Let’s try out your argument in other contexts.
I gotta say this is a hella good retort on your part. It’s a body slam…fun to see. But you sorta have in the process hoisted yourself by your own petard on the ecnl issue…if you don’t care about these other issues you shouldn’t care about the trans kid. You just implied it yourself.
it’s interesting. I really do think we are heading to a place where the issue is going to be decided red state v blue state. Guess some of you guys should take my prior advice and think about heading outFemales Only. Sorry fellas, if you want to play with and against the girls, you need to find a co-ed league on Sundays or during the week doing intermurals.
I helped sue to protect women's sports in West Virginia, and we won
I helped sue to protect women's sports in West Virginia, and we won because federal court upheld the Save Women’s Sports Act and using Title IX as intended.
Nonsense.I gotta say this is a hella good retort on your part. It’s a body slam…fun to see. But you sorta have in the process hoisted yourself by your own petard on the ecnl issue…if you don’t care about these other issues you shouldn’t care about the trans kid. You just implied it yourself.
it’s interesting. I really do think we are heading to a place where the issue is going to be decided red state v blue state. Guess some of you guys should take my prior advice and think about heading out
I do think the arguments raised in the case are somewhat dangerous and have a possibility of boomeranging. They seem to rely on the overt argument that women and women’s sport is lesser and therefore needs to be protected. It therefore undermines the argument for example for equal pay for the Uswnt, womens pro sports and even the foundations for title ix (as opposed to a participatory argument which would cut in the trans kids favor). They make the mistaken assumption that protection somehow means equal (it doesn’t…it in fact implies the opposite). While we all (hopefully) know men and women in fact are different, it undermines one of the major tenets of pre post modernist feminism of the last 60 years
Sorry to trigger you tiger. Look, the point of the post was this lady is now Transcannine. That's her choice by she can't enter herself into The World Dog show.
Women need protections from the men who want their spot and they will do whatever the hell they need to get that spot, even saying their a woman now. This is insaneI gotta say this is a hella good retort on your part. It’s a body slam…fun to see. But you sorta have in the process hoisted yourself by your own petard on the ecnl issue…if you don’t care about these other issues you shouldn’t care about the trans kid. You just implied it yourself.
it’s interesting. I really do think we are heading to a place where the issue is going to be decided red state v blue state. Guess some of you guys should take my prior advice and think about heading out
I do think the arguments raised in the case are somewhat dangerous and have a possibility of boomeranging. They seem to rely on the overt argument that women and women’s sport is lesser and therefore needs to be protected. It therefore undermines the argument for example for equal pay for the Uswnt, womens pro sports and even the foundations for title ix (as opposed to a participatory argument which would cut in the trans kids favor). They make the mistaken assumption that protection somehow means equal (it doesn’t…it in fact implies the opposite). While we all (hopefully) know men and women in fact are different, it undermines one of the major tenets of pre post modernist feminism of the last 60 years
When it comes to the participation argument, you gotta bear in mind that there are also people (FTM) moving the other way. From a macro overall perspective, the numbers should near balance out. You are still dealing with the same overall numbers in each pool. The question is when you assign each to the other, and how you divide up scare resources within the pool such as scholarship money. It puts folks in the unseemly place of having to argue "don't touch my scholarship money" or "let's protect ECNL ball but o.k. to sacrifice the F1 ballers", which is why they rather argue about fairness or safety, but as has been shown, neither gets you there 100%.
