I don't want men saying their now women to play sports with girls. Simple is simple. We agree to disagree. I love all people. I told you about my pal Mike who dressed up as a women at times and went to drag shows. Mike feels like a women and prefers dressing up as a women but even he just told me he agrees with me. I like that you and Grace like each other on this topic. Ancient Mother or Mother Nature is coming to take her rightful place in the Divine. Men have made a complete mess of this planet and now they want to take away female all together. This is straight up whack man. I love all my frens in the LBGT+ Community. However, if your born a man, then you can only play against the men. If your born a female and you want to challenge the men, then it's ok. It's about the physical and not the equipment. I could care a less if you want to be a women play dress up part time. It's your choice Surf Futbol and just be you man.
Trans eligibility rules for girls sports.
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Females Only. Sorry fellas, if you want to play with and against the girls, you need to find a co-ed league on Sundays or during the week doing intermurals.
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I helped sue to protect women's sports in West Virginia, and we won
I helped sue to protect women's sports in West Virginia, and we won because federal court upheld the Save Women’s Sports Act and using Title IX as intended.
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Asking people to name a girl who lost a slot to a mtf trans athlete is equivalent to asking people to name the youth athletes in question. Don‘t ask for that. Let the kids have their privacy.
Uh, I did not ask anyone to identify anyone. I am just saying they can't. Because they don't know of any.
This is just more transphobic bs.
So you're mocking gay and trans people by equating their lifestyle decisions to f**king animals? Honestly, you're a real POS. I guess that should come as no surprise, though, for a guy who tried to leverage his 13 year old daughter's ability to play soccer as a source of family income because he's too much of a loser to get a job and support the family himself.
Let’s try out your argument in other contexts.
No one ever lost a roster slot to a trans athlete, because they also were worse than the non-trans athletes.
No one ever lost a roster slot to a doping athlete, because they also were worse than the non-doping
athletes.
No one ever lost a roster slot to an athlete who paid a bribe, because they also were worse than the non-bribing
athletes.
No one ever lost a roster slot to an athlete whose mom slept with the coach, because they also were worse than the athletes whose mom didn’t sleep with the coach.
It’s the same argument. Now do you see how stupid it is?
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Zambia Star to Play in World Cup After Passing Gender Eligibility Test - SportsBrief.com
Zambia Star to Play in World Cup After Passing Gender Eligibility Test - SportsBrief.com
I gotta say this is a hella good retort on your part. It’s a body slam…fun to see. But you sorta have in the process hoisted yourself by your own petard on the ecnl issue…if you don’t care about these other issues you shouldn’t care about the trans kid. You just implied it yourself.
it’s interesting. I really do think we are heading to a place where the issue is going to be decided red state v blue state. Guess some of you guys should take my prior advice and think about heading outFemales Only. Sorry fellas, if you want to play with and against the girls, you need to find a co-ed league on Sundays or during the week doing intermurals.
I helped sue to protect women's sports in West Virginia, and we won
I helped sue to protect women's sports in West Virginia, and we won because federal court upheld the Save Women’s Sports Act and using Title IX as intended.
I do think the arguments raised in the case are somewhat dangerous and have a possibility of boomeranging. They seem to rely on the overt argument that women and women’s sport is lesser and therefore needs to be protected. It therefore undermines the argument for example for equal pay for the Uswnt, womens pro sports and even the foundations for title ix (as opposed to a participatory argument which would cut in the trans kids favor). They make the mistaken assumption that protection somehow means equal (it doesn’t…it in fact implies the opposite). While we all (hopefully) know men and women in fact are different, it undermines one of the major tenets of pre post modernist feminism of the last 60 years
You really are clueless. If a kid loses their 18th spot on the roster to a trans/doping/bribery paying/mommy coach f**king player, it still does not change that it has no impact on whether they will play in college, let alone get a scholarship. They're still not very good regardless of the one person you think "unfairly" displaced them, and they are not going to get scholarship money or a college offer regardless.
I do concede that the doper potentially impacts offers and scholarship money for someone else, but only for a legitimate baller. That is not the case for the player whose mommy bribes or f**ks the coach because the kids who are better will still start and will still prove themselves better. But even the doping issue is a very different situation than with a trans player, because the doper is trying to dupe the college coach whereas the college coach will always know if a player is trans before signing day. Never in history has a D1 program offered a trans soccer player a scholarship, and it will never happen because no one is going to throw away their precious little scholarship money on someone who will need to sit out for hormone suppression, and for whom it will completely speculative what kind of player they will be, or whether they'll even care about soccer, when they get through it. Also, never in history has a D1 program ever done anything other than potentially add a roster spot for a trans player.
But let's say you're right, which you aren't. So what? There are legitimate reasons to allow trans participation like inclusivity and diversity and the fact that kiddie soccer just isn't that important compared to civil rights - that you continue to avoid talking about and which do not apply to the doping/bribery paying/mommy f**king player. In fact, it is offensive to try to lump trans girls into a class of people who are cheaters. As you know, the rules are very clear in club soccer about trans participation at the youth level. They are not cheaters, nor are they doing anything dishonest like the others. This is just another ridiculous set of hypotheticals to distract from the reality that trans girls have never once in history denied a single cis girl of either a scholarship or roster spot on a college team. Never once in history has a trans girl ever denied a roster spot to an NWSL team. Never once in history has a trans girl been the reason the 19th best player on a club team wasn't able to play in college. No one here can identify a single person who was ever denied a college opportunity because of a trans player because it has never happened. You're just making shit up.
Nonsense.I gotta say this is a hella good retort on your part. It’s a body slam…fun to see. But you sorta have in the process hoisted yourself by your own petard on the ecnl issue…if you don’t care about these other issues you shouldn’t care about the trans kid. You just implied it yourself.
it’s interesting. I really do think we are heading to a place where the issue is going to be decided red state v blue state. Guess some of you guys should take my prior advice and think about heading out
I do think the arguments raised in the case are somewhat dangerous and have a possibility of boomeranging. They seem to rely on the overt argument that women and women’s sport is lesser and therefore needs to be protected. It therefore undermines the argument for example for equal pay for the Uswnt, womens pro sports and even the foundations for title ix (as opposed to a participatory argument which would cut in the trans kids favor). They make the mistaken assumption that protection somehow means equal (it doesn’t…it in fact implies the opposite). While we all (hopefully) know men and women in fact are different, it undermines one of the major tenets of pre post modernist feminism of the last 60 years
Sorry to trigger you tiger. Look, the point of the post was this lady is now Transcannine. That's her choice by she can't enter herself into The World Dog show.
Women need protections from the men who want their spot and they will do whatever the hell they need to get that spot, even saying their a woman now. This is insaneI gotta say this is a hella good retort on your part. It’s a body slam…fun to see. But you sorta have in the process hoisted yourself by your own petard on the ecnl issue…if you don’t care about these other issues you shouldn’t care about the trans kid. You just implied it yourself.
it’s interesting. I really do think we are heading to a place where the issue is going to be decided red state v blue state. Guess some of you guys should take my prior advice and think about heading out
I do think the arguments raised in the case are somewhat dangerous and have a possibility of boomeranging. They seem to rely on the overt argument that women and women’s sport is lesser and therefore needs to be protected. It therefore undermines the argument for example for equal pay for the Uswnt, womens pro sports and even the foundations for title ix (as opposed to a participatory argument which would cut in the trans kids favor). They make the mistaken assumption that protection somehow means equal (it doesn’t…it in fact implies the opposite). While we all (hopefully) know men and women in fact are different, it undermines one of the major tenets of pre post modernist feminism of the last 60 years
When it comes to the participation argument, you gotta bear in mind that there are also people (FTM) moving the other way. From a macro overall perspective, the numbers should near balance out. You are still dealing with the same overall numbers in each pool. The question is when you assign each to the other, and how you divide up scare resources within the pool such as scholarship money. It puts folks in the unseemly place of having to argue "don't touch my scholarship money" or "let's protect ECNL ball but o.k. to sacrifice the F1 ballers", which is why they rather argue about fairness or safety, but as has been shown, neither gets you there 100%.
Your response to being called out for posting an offensive comparison between trans people and people who have sex with animals is to call me triggered? The only one of us who has been triggered is the one who has been freaking out about rules allowing trans participation in sports, most of which have been in place for over a decade. I do understand how people like you claim that anyone who disagrees with you is "triggered", despite the fact that you're the one who is so bent out of shape about existing rules. That is because you have nothing legitimate to say.
Has a trans girl ever in the history of planet earth ever taken away scholarship money from a cis girl? Or is it just fear mongering by transphobes who are making up unrealistic fake hypotheticals because admitting the real root cause of their position (which is that they just hate trans people or at best don't care how badly they're abused in life) isn't exactly a flattering argument?
Don't know. It's a good question. Doesn't mean it won't potentially happen either. But it does cut to the chase of this: the main concern does seem to be about $$$.
Look Grace, if you have balls and a penis, no play with the girls and no girls locker room or bathrooms. Those are the rules, sorry. Some people are normalizing this and it's wrong.
Trigger got you and now your feeling offensive....lol! Relax Jacko. Were talking about men who wake up the next day and tell NCAA that their now a woman and will compete against the girls. This is nuts and I did the dog and pony show for a reason.