Everywhere bro. Mask on everywhere and you best get the vax or your not welcome. Teachers were told NOT to have Thanksgiving dinner with anti-vax family members. BTW, if you did have a little one, where would you move to?
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Prepare ye thee for Dark Winter II fellas and Grace T. I love you all and I mean that.
Fed Chair Powell to tell Congress that omicron variant could threaten U.S. economic recovery
Jerome Powell wrote that the omicron variant poses 'downside risks to employment and economic activity'
STORM ON THE HORIZON!!!
My advice is to buy lot's of popcorn and get a blanket and sit by the warm fire place and start watching this show unfold before our eyes and ears. Really, this is the greatest time to be alive and many of you have been picked to help humanity heal itself from utter evil. I believe in most of you and want you on the team. Some of you are making serious eternal decisions and I would pause and go out into the wilderness alone and fast for three days. After you fast, stop eating meat and stop drinking booze ((for now)) so you can get your head on straight. After 30 days, your eyes will begin to open and your mind we be open to the truth and folks like me are here to help you with the truth.
Fed Chair Powell to tell Congress that omicron variant could threaten U.S. economic recovery
Jerome Powell wrote that the omicron variant poses 'downside risks to employment and economic activity'
STORM ON THE HORIZON!!!
My advice is to buy lot's of popcorn and get a blanket and sit by the warm fire place and start watching this show unfold before our eyes and ears. Really, this is the greatest time to be alive and many of you have been picked to help humanity heal itself from utter evil. I believe in most of you and want you on the team. Some of you are making serious eternal decisions and I would pause and go out into the wilderness alone and fast for three days. After you fast, stop eating meat and stop drinking booze ((for now)) so you can get your head on straight. After 30 days, your eyes will begin to open and your mind we be open to the truth and folks like me are here to help you with the truth.
Desert Hound
DA
By the way over Thanksgiving news came out from the NE Journal of Medicine.
Here they are telling us the natural immunity is VERY effective.
"Reinfections had 90% lower odds of resulting in hospitalization or death than primary infections. Four reinfections were severe enough to lead to acute care hospitalization. None led to hospitalization in an ICU, and none ended in death. Reinfections were rare and were generally mild, perhaps because of the primed immune system after primary infection.
In earlier studies, we assessed the efficacy of previous natural infection as protection against reinfection with SARS-CoV-22,3 as being 85% or greater. Accordingly, for a person who has already had a primary infection, the risk of having a severe reinfection is only approximately 1% of the risk of a previously uninfected person having a severe primary infection."
Here they are telling us the natural immunity is VERY effective.
"Reinfections had 90% lower odds of resulting in hospitalization or death than primary infections. Four reinfections were severe enough to lead to acute care hospitalization. None led to hospitalization in an ICU, and none ended in death. Reinfections were rare and were generally mild, perhaps because of the primed immune system after primary infection.
In earlier studies, we assessed the efficacy of previous natural infection as protection against reinfection with SARS-CoV-22,3 as being 85% or greater. Accordingly, for a person who has already had a primary infection, the risk of having a severe reinfection is only approximately 1% of the risk of a previously uninfected person having a severe primary infection."
kickingandscreaming
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Seems like San Diego would be a possibility. Their risk assessment appears to match mine better than SC County. At some point, I'd like to be somewhere that I don't have to wear a mask for COVID and/or the seasonal flu. If I wanted to avoid all the irrational COVID drama that comes with living in CA, I'd say Texas or Florida.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Front "page" of CNN Site
"No known mutation can make a virus evade precautions such as face masks, handwashing and distancing"
Uh, this misleading at best. Taken individually, only distancing is always true for this statement for the original COVID virus (much less the more transmissible mutations) - and no one appears to know how much distancing as 6 feet was an educated guess. Taken together, the statement is not always true without appropriate distancing as just mentioned). Sadly, that doesn't even account for rooms that get filled with the virus and someone comes in after that. Junk journalism.
"No known mutation can make a virus evade precautions such as face masks, handwashing and distancing"
Uh, this misleading at best. Taken individually, only distancing is always true for this statement for the original COVID virus (much less the more transmissible mutations) - and no one appears to know how much distancing as 6 feet was an educated guess. Taken together, the statement is not always true without appropriate distancing as just mentioned). Sadly, that doesn't even account for rooms that get filled with the virus and someone comes in after that. Junk journalism.
Their dropping like the liars they are. No more cheating or pay to play games anymore. It;s over!!! This is the clean up job and rounding up the rest of the rats that have been cheating us all. We The People Win 
Nothing and no one can stop what is coming. It's all good you guys unless you have been cheating and have not said sorry and stopped. We all have a few skeletons in our closets. Let's not act like no one is guilty of something in their lifetime. It's time to come clean and start this new game where everyone is equal somehow.
Nothing and no one can stop what is coming. It's all good you guys unless you have been cheating and have not said sorry and stopped. We all have a few skeletons in our closets. Let's not act like no one is guilty of something in their lifetime. It's time to come clean and start this new game where everyone is equal somehow. I'll make some predictions. This is all assuming we have a moderate omicron outbreak that does indeed evade the vaccine and pushes out the delta:
-the US economy is already teetering. Even in red states, the supply disruptions will be enough to push things over. Supply chains which have already been stretched tumble and we go into full scale 1970s stagflation
-The red states will try and ignore what's happening but the Ds will feel pressure from certain groups (public health/teachers unions) to do something. Since Biden really is captured to a large degree by these interests groups, he may even be able to use the momentum to push through a modified BBB bill which will exacerbate the stagflation problems. Biden admin, already been thrashed by the federal courts on the vaccine mandates, will go into full conflict mode with the red states
-The blue states under pressure from these groups will put in place some limited restrictions, the harshest affecting kids, including in some major cities and some blue states school closures. We will have a massive mental health breakdown in blue states as many people are close to the edge (ditto for Europe which will see resistance which dwarfs that currently happening).
-The middle 1/3 of the public really doesn't care about policies and just wants to see it over. They rightfully or wrongly blamed Trump for everything that went wrong in 2020 and rightfully or wrongly blamed Biden for not getting better results (even though the Delta was beyond his control). The Ds get hammered in 2022, potentially going into the wilderness for a generation (depending what other things lie down the road for the Rs)
-The vaccine solution is dead given they've gone all in on boosters. A large segment of the public will not tolerate 4 shots.
My caveat is all this assumes an omicron outbreak at least as bad as the Delta (which we don't know if it will push out the Delta and if it's more serious). Different result if it's more deadly and people (including kids) start dying in mass (in which case I think the public will tolerate more restrictions). Different result if early indications that it's a more mild cold take place (in which case I think even the Ds won't listen to the teacher's unions given what happened in Virginia...you already saw the split in the morning conference with Biden and Fauci....if it comes to it I think Biden cuts Fauci loose before the elections).
You’re overly eager to find fault there. Face masks, soap, and distancing are all useful during flu/covid season. Other than getting your shots and being outside, it’s a solid list.
It isn‘t an ironclad defense, nor is it meant to be. It’s a few small steps that you can do while going on with a normal life. On the scale of putting an air cleaner in the room for poker night.
Why do you want to take such excessive steps avoid a cold/flu?
As to the flu, don't you trust your flu shot?
As to the cold, it's part of the human condition. You seriously advocating for people to wear masks to avoid colds in perpetuity?
As to COVID, the last thing you want (particularly if the omicron turns out to be all that), is for people to think they are "safe" having an all night poker night with the windows closed and no airfilter and no vaccine if they use their masks, soap and a little distancing. And we do know for a fact there is a percentage of people who do think that from prior polling/reporting....they are afraid of the vaccine and have been told to trust the mask. If people are going to opt to do the indoor poker night (3+ hours next to each other probably drinking too and pulling down masks), or visit grandma for Christmas, I would think we would want them to make a realistic assessment of the risk. Otherwise, look who's killing grandma now.
Hüsker Dü
DA
You always seem to be chasing.
errr....says the guy who always seems to be trolling.
Extreme?
Washing my hands now counts as extreme?
Or is it the outdoor barbecue that makes me a true radical? Beware. I have a big green egg, and I'm not afraid to use it.
Here is my "prediction". Covid and its variants will do what it does regardless of restrictions, cases will spike and then go down. The majority will go on with life. The media will continue to fear monger, left leaning politicians will continue to discriminate against children and the unvaccinated. The healthy and the young will continue to have very little risk from the virus. Some will continue to hide at home while others work to deliver their Amazon packages. This thread will average 15+ posts a day.
Not so much a prediction as much as just a continuation of the last two years. It ain't rocket science.
One of my brothers went through a hypochondriac OCD phase where he would wash his hands any time he shook hands with someone or touched a surface. So yes, handwashing can be extreme. I suppose it depends how often you do it, and if you think it will truly do anything to stop COVID if you are playing poker with guys indoors on a winter night for 3+ hours.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Ha! You didn't address any of my criticisms of their statement and what you did write is not at all what CNN stated. If they would have stated washing hands and wearing masks can be useful in reducing the transmission of viruses, I wouldn't have had an issue.
It's not news - it's advocacy and it is misleading. It's a statement of absolutes. How is this not presented as an "ironclad defense"? "No known mutation can make a virus evade precautions ...". It gives a false sense of security and wasn't true for the original COVID virus much less more transmissible mutations.
Maybe you are overly eager to put a stamp of approval on anything that encourages the wearing of masks - misleading or not. Not everyone is predisposed to unquestioningly trust people who are willing to manipulate them. You lose their trust with statements like that.
Agree with a lot of the sentiment but here's what I think is different. If this is anything like a new delta quite a few things (the economy, the Biden administration, the mental health of a segment of society, parents with kids in closed schools, the vaccination strategy) are close to the end of their ropes. If this thing is just more of the same, I agree. If this thing is even something as bad as a "new delta" or delta-type wave, the health authorities will feel obligated to "do something" and that something causes a few wheels to go off the rails. That's what I think the markets are pricing in: the possibility that this is a delta or worse * the negative costs it will inflict.
Hey fellas, take a look at his bio man. Bill Gates was the last person to pseak with Jeffrey before he went away. I guess Bill was trying to get him to do something and Jeff told him to, "Fuck Off Bill." I kid you not. Look at the crew WHO put the jabs together in record time bro. Bill, Toney and Jeff.
