Vaccine

Fear + self-righteousness + power = Where we are now.
I say it's more like, "where we were." No way we go back to pay to play, brown nose kiss ass games, back stabbers, cheating, lying and doing whatever it takes to get the "W." I see big change coming and that is why I'm so fired up. Those who cheat and pay whatever it takes to win will now be the losers. It's actually happening as I write this.
 
That's a good point. Why are so many people afraid of a technology that has existed for centuries? And a medicine that has demonstrated effectivity in the 90%+ range, with few serious side effects?
Why are so many people afraid of the mandated immune systems given at birth? And the clean drinking water, and sanitation systems that provide a foundation for vaccines to even have a chance at success? Without all 3, vaccines efficacy is 0%.
 
We've been lectured and scolded since March 2020. The spread of the virus is our fault, they say. If we'd just follow their "guidelines," we'd be a lot better off.

And yet:
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You see what this is, surely. It's the COVID numbers in the United States, separated by a year.

Isn't it an amazing coincidence that all the places where people happened to be "behaving badly" on November 19, 2020 just happen to be the same places where they were "behaving badly" on November 19, 2021?

The coincidence is so uncanny that it's almost as if, I don't know, it's not a coincidence at all, and factors like seasonality might instead account for where the virus becomes especially pronounced.
 
at least you admitted what the medical authorities are doing. They are basically guessing. But unfortunately they haven’t been clear about that with the public (their own arrogance prevents them from saying they don’t fully know what they are doing). So instead being wrong time and time again they undermine their own trust
Guessing? No, and that's not what I wrote.

There is a boatload of work to prove safety and efficacy. They did all of that.

What they did not do was figure out whether some other schedule was slightly better.

That doesn't mean they were "guessing". The goal was to get a vaccine out quickly. So they chose a schedule that could be tested quickly.

As a result, we were able to vaccinate a lot of our 80+ population before the winter wave got to them.

Most people see that as a good thing.
 
The beauty of all this is that good health trumps everything you can do. That is overwhelmingly in our control. You might not be aware of how many people are not in good health due to poor diet and lack of exercise as I remember you stating you don't hang out with unhealthy people. Maybe it wasn't you and it was Husker, or EOTL, or thelonggame that said that. It doesn't really matter as the views of all those aliases are so close to the same, it's as if it's the same person.
You all look (and sound) the same to me as well.
 
Guessing? No, and that's not what I wrote.

There is a boatload of work to prove safety and efficacy. They did all of that.

What they did not do was figure out whether some other schedule was slightly better.

That doesn't mean they were "guessing". The goal was to get a vaccine out quickly. So they chose a schedule that could be tested quickly.

As a result, we were able to vaccinate a lot of our 80+ population before the winter wave got to them.

Most people see that as a good thing.
Potato patatoe
Making an educate guess that can be rolled out quickly, guessing.
 
Potato patatoe
Making an educate guess that can be rolled out quickly, guessing.
Yes, the kind of educated guess that involves tens of thousands of clinical trial participants followed by very difficult statistics work.

Maybe, someday, if you spend the next 15 years studying, you could become qualified to help make that kind of educated guess.

Probably not. For that kind of educated guess, the education requirements are wicked hard.
 
Yes, the kind of educated guess that involves tens of thousands of clinical trial participants followed by very difficult statistics work.

Maybe, someday, if you spend the next 15 years studying, you could become qualified to help make that kind of educated guess.

Probably not. For that kind of educated guess, the education requirements are wicked hard.
All that time and education just to be wrong about everything. Got it

your bias for the meritocracy is showing again.
 
All that time and education just to be wrong about everything. Got it

your bias for the meritocracy is showing again.
Who told you they were wrong about everything? Sounds like something a con man would tell people to gain their confidence. “I’m right they’re wrong believe me and only me”
 
All that time and education just to be wrong about everything. Got it

your bias for the meritocracy is showing again.
For medicine, I lean very heavily towards meritocracy. Most people do.

Do you prefer to crowdsource your choice of ingested chemicals?
 
Is this anything?

Well, assuming the most at risk are getting vaccinated at a higher rate, the two sets of people won't be randomly distributed. Also, the increase in the death rate among the vaccinated may indicate waning protection. The breakdown from 10-59 is vexing given the way the virus is much harder on older people.
 
For medicine, I lean very heavily towards meritocracy. Most people do.

Do you prefer to crowdsource your choice of ingested chemicals?
They do about economics too yet economists missed both the 2008 bubble and the current “transitory” inflation trend

the fact is the meritocracy has not done well in its educated guesses. If we wanted to reform the system there’s more we can do than just crowdsource it. Again your analysis neglects that there was an outsource group of don’t passers that mostly got it right just as there were in 2008

btw the two groups need each other. The 2008 don’t passers for the most part remarkably underperformed after 2008. The problem with the don’t passers is they see disaster even in the good times. The problem with the meritocratic passers is their own arrogance doesn’t let them believe they are wrong. Add to that a healthy dose of censorship, the personalities in public health (no medium well steaks for you!), a propensity to circle the wagons and being in bed with big pharma and it’s a prescription (haha) for disaster

btw I do think front lines docs have done much better than public health docs. Example: after seeing early disaster results they shifted away from ventilators quickly and they led the push for public health to revise their thinking. It was the same with the steroids as I personally can attest.
 
Is this anything?

Probably not. 10-59 is a very wide age band.

Vaccination status correlates with age. Deaths from all causes correlates with age.

What you’re seeing is that people likely to die from early heart attacks are also likely to have been vaccinated.

If you took the same age band, you’d find that getting a shingles shot correlates with deaths from all causes, too.
 
interesting article in the Economist on ivermectin. Paywall, unfortunately.

Turns out that ivm is an excellent drug for covid, if you happen to have worms. The steroid treatment for covid makes the worms grow like crazy. ivm keeps them in check.

It helps explain the vast difference in results for ivm studies. Studies were more positive on ivm if they were done in countries with lots of parasites.

So, the low income countries using ivm were doing the right thing, for them. And the wealthy countries avoiding ivm were doing the right thing, for them.
 
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