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Vaccine
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Well we agree on something: the pharmaceutical companies aren't being up front and honest about the effectiveness against symptomatic infection.
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With all due respect, you have the myopic thinking backwards. It's our leadership that has been myopic. I can change my mind with evidence, show me what you got instead of just disputing what I post. Below are just a few examples that support my opinion (My apologies for not posting anything from Reddit). Now leaderships' failure is not entirely political it is also a lack of competence. Politicians typically don't have any relevant organizational and operational training. Many are attorneys that are single focus on the matters at hand and are incapable of evaluating cause and effect, cost/benefit, risk management, etc.
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Nearly 10 Million Cancer Screenings Missed During Pandemic
Researchers analyzed data on three types of cancer for which early screenings are most beneficial — breast, colon and prostate.www.webmd.com
COVID-19 and learning loss—disparities grow and students need help
Winter is coming, and COVID-19 cases are spiking again. While the pandemic has set back learning for all students, it has been especially cruel to Black, Hispanic, and Indigenous children.www.mckinsey.com
Impact of COVID-19 and lockdown on mental health of children and adolescents: A narrative review with recommendations - PMC
COVID-19 pandemic and lockdown has brought about a sense of fear and anxiety around the globe. This phenomenon has led to short term as well as long term psychosocial and mental health implications for children and adolescents. The quality and ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Beach closures will target Orange County, not apply statewide
Gov. Gavin Newsom announced a “very targeted” closure of the beaches in Orange County Thursday, but stopped short of announcing a rumored statewide ban on beach use.fox5sandiego.com
Why Only 28 Percent of Young Black New Yorkers Are Vaccinated (Published 2021)
As the Delta variant courses through New York City, many young Black New Yorkers remain distrustful of the vaccine.www.nytimes.com
Dude, this is what you wrote:
"Politicians are often so narrow-minded and stubborn on an issue (typically an issue that fits their narrative) that their either incapable of, or intentionally ignore, predictable collateral consequences. This has never been more true than during the pandemic. The left thinks they're sticking it to white, Trump supporting anti-vaxxers when in reality their policies are discriminating against black Americans and the less fortunate"
Perhaps had you left that last sentence out it I would've left it alone. That last sentence is what made me disagree with the whole paragraph. You drew a line in the sand and essentially blamed the left. How else is one supposed to read that? Words matter.
GG also isn't telling everyone how smart they are or how they follow logic (in this case yahoos on Twitter). Most smart people I know don't have to tell people they're smart.
More random words.
What? I don't feel at all misled. I was told the jab protects against severe disease, and it does.
If anything, the pharma companies have done a good job keeping their message straight despite a sea of misinformation.
Desert Hound
DA
Then why are you running around wearing an n95 mask?
Desert Hound
DA
This is a good read.
taibbi.substack.com
The Cult of the Vaccine
"The jab" is just the latest story to be reported as mantra
taibbi.substack.com
You were the one that raised the million dollar question of herd immunity is less the breakthroughs
reason it’s important is because if that’s a large number (assuming natural immunity is long lasting and more robust) you don’t get to herd immunity and this doesn’t end until large portions of people are infected (in which case why areyou going around selfishly using an n95 instead of taking your chances like the rest of us non elderly vaxxed?).
and if natural immunity doesn’t do it, under YOU OWN FORMULATION which you laid out, herd immunity is impossible.
Actually I blamed the politicians. But the left thinks that vaccine cards required for normal activities are no big deal because its only the Trump anti-vaxxers that this policy discriminates against. Review the prior posts by your leftist friends and you will see this sentiment repeated ad nauseum. I've provided the evidence for my opinion including Newsom singling out the white, republican stronghold of OC for the most restrictive Covid policy. You can't deny that Newsom's policies are in large part political. He closed schools statewide a couple days after LAUSD and SDUSD said they wouldn't allow their teachers to return to school. He dropped his tier Covid system when the recall was certified and then didn't implement any new policies before the election (even though infections would have put every county way beyond the Purple tier). Then boom he wins the election and now he implements sweeping vaccination requirements for children on the downslope of the Delta wave. You can't be that naïve not to see that in plain sight. Even I can concede that DeSantis and Abbot had policies influenced by politics, just with significantly less collateral damage.
"Even I can concede that DeSantis and Abbot had policies influenced by politics, just with significantly less collateral damage."
Are you kidding me?
Look I will be the first to say 99% of politicians are not representing their constituents needs. I think Bernie might be the only one who actually cares about people, but surely that statement alone will trigger the MAGAs here. I think my views have been consistent here. I've called out Newsom many times on this thread and elsewhere on this message board. But, to lay blame on the "leftists" is just dumb and it reveals more about you than anything else.
My views are consistent here as well, its about the kids and it's been the left controlled states that have placed the most Covid policy burdens on our kids at the expense of their health and education. It's unfortunate that you can't see that.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Anybody who thinks Bernie cares more about people, and says he has been consistent is telling the truth about his democratic socialism.
I can actually respect Bernie. He has his principles and he appears to be unwavering in his commitment to them. I just disagree with many of his principles or how he wants to implement them.
You honestly think the children in right controlled states have faired better?
I know far more people on the "left" that are willing to call out people in their "party" than those on the right. It's quite fascinating to be honest. I mean that's how most folks on this board operate. I mean look at the dudes posting all the noise. Seriously, look at the crap they post. it's frickin nuts.....but oh no....GG needs an intervention. Give me a break man. I think I'm starting to agree with @Grace T.'s view on adults in this country.
1. The kids in red states had schools open last year, fewer mask mandates this year and had their sports. My son was training in Utah while sports here were shut down, swimming in the pool while public pools here were closed.
2. If you look at pundits it’s definitely not true the lefties call their own out more than the righties. There’s a long line of right commentators ranging from Ben Shapiro to Megan McCain and even Tucker Carlson that at various times called out trumpy tours. The left hasn’t done that with Biden (except somewhat on Afghanistan but if they were to be honest thered be a lot more questions about Biden’s competency right now and there isn’t). If you are talking regular folks maybe….but most regular folks are actually more moderate than the talking heads.
3. Eotl does need an intervention. The language he uses suggests some bipolar tendency and the language is wayyyyy outside the norms attorneys use to even speak to really hostile opposing council. It suggests either someone who is doing a very serious troll act or someone mentally unbalanced. The fact that he also has to use a library computer (or some equivalent) raises questions about his life status
4. Again look at the divorce rate…some people just don’t grow up.
100%. Grace gives some good reasons. The left has this odd and apparently fear based mentality where its the children's responsibility to protect adults. Like I said before this is like not allowing kids on the Titanic for fear they might panic and flip the lifeboats and kill adults. If you think that school closures and mask and vaccine mandates are for the protection of children you need to take a deeper dive into the data.
I don't recall you calling out EOTL/GG on any of his inappropriate comments, so pot meet kettle. If you think his name calling, venom and blatant mischaracterizations are even remotely close to what the right leaning posters say here I question your observational skills. With maybe one exception, the right leaning posters tend to post facts for their arguments whereas the left leaning tend to post emotions and insults. Recall that EOTL has already been kicked off this forum once.
And as far as calling out others outside this board, how many on the left called the summer riots vs the right that called out the Jan 6 riot? You'll find that the right was far more critical of the 6th then the left of the summer riots. If you recall McConnell spoke out on the Senate floor and called out the rioters and Trump. Did Pelosi or anyone on the left do the same about the summer riots aka the "Summer of Love"?
I'm hardly the poster child for a male, white Trump righty (who I never voted for). I'm agnostic, pro-choice, socially liberal, small government minded and fiscal conservative, who try's to base his opinions on the evidence. My koolaid is more purple than red.
what-happened
GOLD
.So the beat goes on. Have to be vaccinated or have a negative test with 72hrs to attend the games or events. People are going to be turned away at the LAFC games and the Halloween events like at Universal.
abc7.com
Number of people I guess including some HS or club coaches are losing jobs besides just medical professionals. Long time manager at a place where one of our young adults works was put on leave yesterday and was not allowed to enter the facility. Getting real...
LA County COVID vaccine mandate takes effect for large events, indoor areas of bars, nightclubs
L.A. County began imposing COVID-19 vaccination requirements at indoor portions of bars, wineries, distilleries, nightclubs and lounges.
abc7.com
Number of people I guess including some HS or club coaches are losing jobs besides just medical professionals. Long time manager at a place where one of our young adults works was put on leave yesterday and was not allowed to enter the facility. Getting real...
outside!
DA
Deaths per capita and cases per capita are the only meaningful way to compare different areas. Throw in population density and it becomes more meaningful. Do the research and look at North Dakota.