Um, don't you have to visit another pole to be bipolar? I'd say he is far more uni-polar than bipolar, although I'm pretty sure its just an act, he's playing a character under the anonymity of an online forum. If he was that mentally ill he wouldn't be able to logon. Another alternative is that he is a Gender Studies instructor at the local JC.
Vaccine
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GOLD
Fully vaccinated, or proof of negative test, and.....masked.. Science.So the beat goes on. Have to be vaccinated or have a negative test with 72hrs to attend the games or events. People are going to be turned away at the LAFC games and the Halloween events like at Universal.
LA County COVID vaccine mandate takes effect for large events, indoor areas of bars, nightclubs
L.A. County began imposing COVID-19 vaccination requirements at indoor portions of bars, wineries, distilleries, nightclubs and lounges.abc7.com
Number of people I guess including some HS or club coaches are losing jobs besides just medical professionals. Long time manager at a place where one of our young adults works was put on leave yesterday and was not allowed to enter the facility. Getting real...
Always makes me laught when they say proof of negative test 72 hrs prior. I suppose they could be more sciency and demand proof of isolation as well.
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GOLD
Ha - brilliant! I'm going to share some of his eloquent prose with a shrink buddy of mine and see if he can profile it. You just made my day...
A better description is that adults, right and left, have successfully opposed most adult mandates.
And, when there is a mandate on adults, they complain LOUDLY. The mandate gets weakened or repealed and the kid mandate is what remains.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Meaningful for whom and why?
You may be right to some extent, but that doesn't make it right to put these burdens on kids because they can't fight back. It's abuse of kids and its abuse of power. I just can't rationalize it like you do. I'm kind of meh with many of the adult mandates, but when you lose your job because you won't subject yourself to medical treatment that the government has decided is the preferred treatment despite the fact there are alternatives that may actually be superior. That is incredibly troubling.
The US is one of the few countries mandating masks on the very young. Many European countries have decided that vaccination should not be required for the very young. Most of Europe had schools open when the US had them closed. So something is very different from the way the US handled children than from how Europe did.
While I agree that's a more appropriate standard its a fools errand to compare states and countries. For every North Dakota, I can raise you a Utah. There are far too many variables (and exceptions) at play to reliably attribute any causation to mandates. Culture has a far more dramatic effect.
So we have some friends with very young kids, 2 under the age of 5 and there concerned about the wearing masks requirements of them.
The concern is about them developing there own individual identity. With a mask covering large portions of their face they think that may influence them becoming more independent or not.
Very young kids look in the mirror and discover themselves as independent unique individuals. With the masks they have a harder time doing that and that can depersonalize them and make them feel more submissive or controlled.
Not here to debate about masks but if we had preschool age kids think I would try to find or do something for them that's different vs the status quo at least where we live in SoCal.
The concern is about them developing there own individual identity. With a mask covering large portions of their face they think that may influence them becoming more independent or not.
Very young kids look in the mirror and discover themselves as independent unique individuals. With the masks they have a harder time doing that and that can depersonalize them and make them feel more submissive or controlled.
Not here to debate about masks but if we had preschool age kids think I would try to find or do something for them that's different vs the status quo at least where we live in SoCal.
The other big issue with that age group has been kids with conditions such as ADHD or autism, or kids that have learning needs such as slow speech and slow readers (which learn through observing faces of the teacher and other stuff), or (obviously) the deaf (for which this entire thing has been an absolute nightmare).
On the other hand, if I had a child with Downs, I wouldn't be comfortable sending them into the group care environment right now, even if everyone were mandated to wear N95 masks.
The stupid thing for this age group is that because of the choking concern, many jurisdictions prohibit the masks while napping (and of course they all nap together)...which makes a lot of this just security theatre.
Yeah, but if we don't mask them they could kill adults.
We rely on facial clues, including moving lips, for socialization, comprehension and development. Smiles are healthy, both to the giver and the recipient. Now they're irrelevant in schools, among other places.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Pro-vaxxers are hoping theyʻll be cured of their Silver Bullet Symdrome.
Australia still unable to contain the Delta (despite having come out of winter)....
www.worldometers.info
It's also increasingly appearing New Zealand has failed in containment.....
www.worldometers.info
Dad4's favorite high masked high vaxxed singapore continues to show an increase
www.worldometers.info
Heavily vaxxed iceland has also been unable to contain...
www.worldometers.info
And for the record here's how test and trace South Korea continues to do.....
www.worldometers.info
It's beginning to look like the only country that will have managed to near completely escape covid is Taiwan.
Australia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Australia Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
It's also increasingly appearing New Zealand has failed in containment.....
New Zealand COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
New Zealand Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
Dad4's favorite high masked high vaxxed singapore continues to show an increase
Singapore COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Singapore Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
Heavily vaxxed iceland has also been unable to contain...
Iceland COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Iceland Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
And for the record here's how test and trace South Korea continues to do.....
South Korea COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
South Korea Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
It's beginning to look like the only country that will have managed to near completely escape covid is Taiwan.
what-happened
GOLD
The AAPs recommendation to mask children age 2 and up is lunacy and detoriates the crediblity of any type of covid guidance given by them. The EUCDC's masking policy for children is polar opposite of what the US recommendations are.
Do you really what to do that? Personally, I have more fun speculating as to what's wrong with him than wanting to know his actual diagnosis.
Another one.....
www.thesuburban.com
We have enough vaccine choices (even without the AZ approval in the US) for a reasonable vaccine policy:
-Moderna for the near old and old....it seems to be more robust anyways
-Pfizer for the middle aged and near old
-J&J or 1 dose Pfizer for young men
-Pfizer for young women
Interestingly a lot of this is probably tied not just to the mechanism (mRNA v. traditional) but also to the dosage amounts (J&J being just one, Moderna being more potent).
Five Scandinavian countries limit or halt Moderna
Finland has joined Sweden, Denmark and Norway in either banning or discouraging young adults or teens from getting the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, because of the increased risk of myocarditis —
We have enough vaccine choices (even without the AZ approval in the US) for a reasonable vaccine policy:
-Moderna for the near old and old....it seems to be more robust anyways
-Pfizer for the middle aged and near old
-J&J or 1 dose Pfizer for young men
-Pfizer for young women
Interestingly a lot of this is probably tied not just to the mechanism (mRNA v. traditional) but also to the dosage amounts (J&J being just one, Moderna being more potent).
met61
GOLD
Bruddah IZ
DA
Something is screwy: the New York Times has been sensible twice in a single week.
Now writer David Leonhardt is pointing out what a lot of us have been saying pretty much the whole time: (1) predictions of doom based on people's so-called "bad behavior" often turn out to be embarrassingly off the mark, and (2) the "moralistic fable" behind COVID (whereby good and virtuous behavior makes the numbers go down and "reckless" behavior does the opposite) is unhelpful.
"The fable we tell ourselves," writes Leonhardt, "is that our day-to-day behavior dictates the course of the pandemic. When we are good — by staying socially distant and wearing our masks — cases are supposed to fall. When we are bad — by eating in restaurants, hanging out with friends and going to a theater or football game — cases are supposed to rise."
With school resuming and large crowds, often unmasked, assembling for all kinds of events, we heard plenty of stern warnings at the beginning of last month. Leonhardt cites Politico's headline "It May Only Get Worse." "The new school year is already a disaster," said Business Insider.
And then what happened?
Everything plummeted: cases, hospitalizations, deaths.
As I've said repeatedly over the past year and a half, I've just wanted to hear the so-called experts say, at least once in a while, "We don't know. We don't fully understand what's going on here."
But that's not as fun as lording it over the public with a false certainty.
Michael Osterholm, the former Biden COVID adviser who occasionally has something sensible to say, displayed the kind of humility I've been waiting for when he told Leonhardt: "We still are really in the cave ages in terms of understanding how viruses emerge, how they spread, how they start and stop, why they do what they do."
What a refreshing change from "Shut up and listen to the science."
A little late, though. Some of us have been treated not too kindly for saying these very things.
Now, as people begin to weary of it all, people like Leonhardt suddenly have the courage to say something.
But better late than never. I'm not a sore winner.—Tommie Wood
Now writer David Leonhardt is pointing out what a lot of us have been saying pretty much the whole time: (1) predictions of doom based on people's so-called "bad behavior" often turn out to be embarrassingly off the mark, and (2) the "moralistic fable" behind COVID (whereby good and virtuous behavior makes the numbers go down and "reckless" behavior does the opposite) is unhelpful.
"The fable we tell ourselves," writes Leonhardt, "is that our day-to-day behavior dictates the course of the pandemic. When we are good — by staying socially distant and wearing our masks — cases are supposed to fall. When we are bad — by eating in restaurants, hanging out with friends and going to a theater or football game — cases are supposed to rise."
With school resuming and large crowds, often unmasked, assembling for all kinds of events, we heard plenty of stern warnings at the beginning of last month. Leonhardt cites Politico's headline "It May Only Get Worse." "The new school year is already a disaster," said Business Insider.
And then what happened?
Everything plummeted: cases, hospitalizations, deaths.
As I've said repeatedly over the past year and a half, I've just wanted to hear the so-called experts say, at least once in a while, "We don't know. We don't fully understand what's going on here."
But that's not as fun as lording it over the public with a false certainty.
Michael Osterholm, the former Biden COVID adviser who occasionally has something sensible to say, displayed the kind of humility I've been waiting for when he told Leonhardt: "We still are really in the cave ages in terms of understanding how viruses emerge, how they spread, how they start and stop, why they do what they do."
What a refreshing change from "Shut up and listen to the science."
A little late, though. Some of us have been treated not too kindly for saying these very things.
Now, as people begin to weary of it all, people like Leonhardt suddenly have the courage to say something.
But better late than never. I'm not a sore winner.—Tommie Wood
I don’t disagree, but I do have the impression that one side is more vocal than the other and that influences perception.