Vaccine

Hüsker Dü said:
Strange how ID mandates fall between ideological lines. The right wants voter ID for registered voters. Registered, i.e. already on the books as an American citizen with the right to vote . . . but where do those on the right fall on gun registration? Now it’s Covid ID’s? So it’s ok for people to own guns with no paper trail or walk around like a feral cat with who knows what kind of diseases, but Americans need to prove they are Americans over and over?
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Apples and Oranges.
 
whatithink said:
The point of the vaccine passports is to provide an easy way of showing it, where its required. My initial reply was with respects to your "scary" comment. The EU example I gave has nothing to do with medicine, its about providing a consistent reporting platform across jurisdictions. They allow ease of travel to countries that require validation of status wrt COVID. Its not about being vaccinated, i.e. see the 3 options. You're bent out of shape about imaginary things that don't exist.

As for the choice / politics angle - mea culpa. I do find it hypocritical though with the "freedom of choice (my body) for me for this, but not for you for that", argument.
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We'll agree to have a difference of opinion. I don't think I'm bent out of shape because of my opinion. A vaccine passport requirement in this country will discriminate against certain populations. That's scary to me but maybe not to you. Depends on your line of work.

There is hypocrisy on both sides of the choice/life movement. Plenty of nuance, privilegde, entitlement, narcism, and tragedy involved.
 
Desert Hound said:
Well on one of the vaxxes they are now recommending they dont be administered to young people.

This is precisely why you shouldn't mandate a drug without having years of study on it.

toronto.citynews.ca

Ontario now recommending Pfizer over Moderna vaccine for young adults

Should residents wish to receive Moderna as their second shot and prefer to do so, the province says it can be authorized with informed consent.
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Sweden is worried about it as well.

www.yahoo.com

Sweden halts use of Moderna's COVID vaccine in under 30s

National health agency says "very minor" risk of certain side effects appears linked to 2nd dose of the vaccine, and was more prevalent among young men and boys.
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THIS
 
Grace T. said:
The bar does provide some free intervention services. Has he burned through those?



IIRC in the Bangladesh study the primary distancing effects were in the older, not the young, for which even with surgicals there wasn't a statistical difference for younger people. Even if you accept "maybe people in Bangladesh" find masks unattractive that would only mean they'd work in Bangladesh and places were similar cultures....not that "the effect is still that surgical masks reduced transmission". Like Hound said, you complain about these things, but then when you do em yourself it's perfectly acceptable. A better, more scientific approach is not to say anything (except perhaps a definitive RCS) proves anything, but rather that it is "interesting" and see where else it leads us.

Oster is basically saying the same thing I've been saying since spring of last year. Masks on a micro level are probably effective on a short term basis. If you have students with ill fitting cloth masks though crowded in a room with only adequate ventilation for 6-9 hours, they ain't gonna doing anything. Same with the passenger sitting on a bus or an airplane who is sick next to you. Same with the coworker in the meat packing plant or sharing the cubicle next to yours.
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Are bar resources available to someone like you who apparently went to law school but never actually practiced law?
 
NorCalDad said:
I pretty much disagree with everything you just said. Pretty myopic.
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With all due respect, you have the myopic thinking backwards. It's our leadership that has been myopic. I can change my mind with evidence, show me what you got instead of just disputing what I post. Below are just a few examples that support my opinion (My apologies for not posting anything from Reddit). Now leaderships' failure is not entirely political it is also a lack of competence. Politicians typically don't have any relevant organizational and operational training. Many are attorneys that are single focus on the matters at hand and are incapable of evaluating cause and effect, cost/benefit, risk management, etc.

www.webmd.com

Nearly 10 Million Cancer Screenings Missed During Pandemic

Researchers analyzed data on three types of cancer for which early screenings are most beneficial — breast, colon and prostate.
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www.mckinsey.com

COVID-19 and learning loss—disparities grow and students need help

Winter is coming, and COVID-19 cases are spiking again. While the pandemic has set back learning for all students, it has been especially cruel to Black, Hispanic, and Indigenous children.
www.mckinsey.com www.mckinsey.com

Impact of COVID-19 and lockdown on mental health of children and adolescents: A narrative review with recommendations - PMC

COVID-19 pandemic and lockdown has brought about a sense of fear and anxiety around the globe. This phenomenon has led to short term as well as long term psychosocial and mental health implications for children and adolescents. The quality and ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

fox5sandiego.com

Beach closures will target Orange County, not apply statewide

Gov. Gavin Newsom announced a “very targeted” closure of the beaches in Orange County Thursday, but stopped short of announcing a rumored statewide ban on beach use.
fox5sandiego.com fox5sandiego.com

www.nytimes.com

Why Only 28 Percent of Young Black New Yorkers Are Vaccinated (Published 2021)

As the Delta variant courses through New York City, many young Black New Yorkers remain distrustful of the vaccine.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
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