Vaccine

Some California counties enacted strict indoor mask mandates in response to the summer wave. Others did nothing.

But when comparing counties with similar vaccination rates, we see “near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.”

Interestingly, San Diego County — which has a higher vaccination rate than Los Angeles and Orange counties — had a higher case rate than those two counties, but similar hospitalization figures. San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange and Ventura counties had near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.

https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/...ndates-delta-COVID-19-data-works-16502191.php

Wow, Q anti-vaxxers as so desperate to find support for not wearing masks that they're citing articles that don't support going maskless and also emphasize the importance of getting vaccinated.
 
You're one of the reasonable people on this thread, I have a hard time believing you support his rhetoric. He intentionally makes up people's positions so he has something to argue about and spew ad hominems. We should call him Don Quixote since he's always "tilting at windmills".

I was mostly just giving you a hard time as I thought it was funny.

I mean I do think the Herman Cain Award subreddit is pretty eye opening. I think it's incredibly sad that people have taken these hardline stances and then end up suffering. I don't laugh at it, that's for sure.
 
I was mostly just giving you a hard time as I thought it was funny.

I mean I do think the Herman Cain Award subreddit is pretty eye opening. I think it's incredibly sad that people have taken these hardline stances and then end up suffering. I don't laugh at it, that's for sure.
Gotcha now, my bad.

I'm all for Darwin principles prevailing, and I don't have a ton of sympathy for those individuals, but I find "dancing on their graves" in order to prove a point on a forum to be disturbing.

I'm pro-vax, but even if I wasn't, I would probably still get a shot for karma reasons even though I know my risks are negligible.
 
It’s more comical that use use Reddit as a source for your trolling attacks……..

carry on….

That's one way to pretend that your behavior isn't pathetic and getting people killed. Of course, when legitimate news entities report on the effectiveness of vaccines, you call them the "lame stream media". When epidemiologists support vaccines, you say you believe people "on the front lines" more than freaking vaccine experts. When you're seeing the actual posts of these dead schmucks, well, it's just Reddit.

There is nothing and no one that will change your minds. We have learned from the Herman Cain Awards that people like you are perfectly fine taking your stupidity and anti-vaxxer memes with you all the way to the grave.
 
That's one way to pretend that your behavior isn't pathetic and getting people killed. Of course, when legitimate news entities report on the effectiveness of vaccines, you call them the "lame stream media". When epidemiologists support vaccines, you say you believe people "on the front lines" more than freaking vaccine experts. When you're seeing the actual posts of these dead schmucks, well, it's just Reddit.

There is nothing and no one that will change your minds. We have learned from the Herman Cain Awards that people like you are perfectly fine taking your stupidity and anti-vaxxer memes with you all the way to the grave.
Who’s behavior? Who’s mind?
As you’ve always done and continuously been smacked down for is making your dumbfounded ASSumptions. Because that’s all you know and that’s how you find self value.
Carry on…….
 
Gotcha now, my bad.

I'm all for Darwin principles prevailing, and I don't have a ton of sympathy for those individuals, but I find "dancing on their graves" in order to prove a point on a forum to be disturbing.

I'm pro-vax, but even if I wasn't, I would probably still get a shot for karma reasons even though I know my risks are negligible.

I think the primary purpose is to raise awareness -- not to dance on any graves. It might feel like a round about way to do it, but I think it's impactful. It tells people who might be anti-vax "Look, these people who have been part of the misinformation efforts died from this shit, it's real man".
 
It’s more comical that use use Reddit as a source for your trolling attacks……..

carry on….
Well you can see he is excited to have found that thread on reddit. It apparently helps him to round out his very busy day. After all sometimes trolls like to hang out with other trolls in situations where they all like something.
 
I think the primary purpose is to raise awareness -- not to dance on any graves. It might feel like a round about way to do it, but I think it's impactful. It tells people who might be anti-vax "Look, these people who have been part of the misinformation efforts died from this shit, it's real man".
I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion based on his rhetoric. We will have to agree to disagree ;). Carry on.

I also suspect that those singled out on the Reddit thread have made a series of poor health choices, likely the least of which was not getting vaccinated. But neither of us really know their situation.
 
I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion based on his rhetoric. We will have to agree to disagree ;). Carry on.

I also suspect that those singled out on the Reddit thread have made a series of poor health choices, likely the least of which was not getting vaccinated. But neither of us really know their situation.

Oh sorry, I was referring to the subreddit itself. I actually haven't read all of GGs posts, but I'm quite familiar with the subreddit.

I think it's pretty safe to say that had many of these folks gotten the vaccine they would still be alive today. That's the real rub in all of this. Natural immunity approach with anti-vax sentiment creates an opportunity for quite a bit of collateral damage. I really do feel bad for all those people out there that have lost love ones or suffered themselves due to them listening to grifters on social media (or heck, maybe some followed threads here).
 
Wow, Q anti-vaxxers as so desperate to find support for not wearing masks that they're citing articles that don't support going maskless and also emphasize the importance of getting vaccinated.
Lol! Just be grateful your maker mandated immune systems. He knew you zealots would arrogantly ignore natural immunity.
 
I think the primary purpose is to raise awareness -- not to dance on any graves. It might feel like a round about way to do it, but I think it's impactful. It tells people who might be anti-vax "Look, these people who have been part of the misinformation efforts died from this shit, it's real man".
... interesting take, what about those masked and vaxxed who died from it? Or, those who die from vax? Or, pre-vax the vast majority who got it and recovered? Or, the masked and vaxxed who still get it and spread it? Or, those masked and vaxxed thanks it works but are afraid of the non-vaxxed? Or, all the other contributing health conditions and choices?.
and on and on.

Maybe there's a lot more to this than your simplistic example.
 
... interesting take, what about those masked and vaxxed who died from it? Or, those who die from vax? Or, pre-vax the vast majority who got it and recovered? Or, the masked and vaxxed who still get it and spread it? Or, those masked and vaxxed thanks it works but are afraid of the non-vaxxed? Or, all the other contributing health conditions and choices?.
and on and on.

Maybe there's a lot more to this than your simplistic example.

You're likely part of the problem.
 
Overall the point is, not one singular thing equals 100% protection. There is no Silver Bullet (not even for Influenza which has been around for Centuries).

You can roll the dice with Natural Immunity. However, if you are older, immuno-compromised, obese, etc, get the damn shot! You can roll the dice with a “vaccine”. But NEITHER are as effective without a proper diet and exercise. Even in some, rare cases, that is not enough.

I do think it’s stupid in the long run to mandate kids under 15 to get the shot (unless they fall into some of the above categories) since there is little to no risk and evolution has proven we can develop a high level of resistance to viral infections.

Since the current Admin is Mandate Happy….they should try Mandating 20 min of exercise per day and watch how many illness mortalities improve.
 
I think the primary purpose is to raise awareness -- not to dance on any graves. It might feel like a round about way to do it, but I think it's impactful. It tells people who might be anti-vax "Look, these people who have been part of the misinformation efforts died from this shit, it's real man".

Come on. We are all parents here. You know that if your kid makes a mistake and you let them make it (like forgetting to pack their homework), and then the teacher comes down on them, and you are there pointing at them and saying "that's what you get for not packing your homework" your kid is just going to keep doing the behavior just to spite you. Making things even more political is not impactful. I bet you it changes zero minds and may even make some people so resentful they do the opposite just to spite you. Because when it comes down to it, a lot of us are just overgrown children. There is nothing persuasive about this.

The only thing post like this do is dance on graves: it makes the original poster feel superior and smug because they are right, and the shlub idiot is wrong. It's basically saying: "Look at the idiot...they got what's coming to them...and aren't I great for not being an idiot like that person." It's about the poster, not the message they are trying to convey. And it's another symptom of the smug superiority complex that seems to be rampant in society, particularly among our elites, which then you shouldn't be surprised when you get a counter reaction from people like Trump because people want to give the finger to you right back.
 
Come on. We are all parents here. You know that if your kid makes a mistake and you let them make it (like forgetting to pack their homework), and then the teacher comes down on them, and you are there pointing at them and saying "that's what you get for not packing your homework" your kid is just going to keep doing the behavior just to spite you. Making things even more political is not impactful. I bet you it changes zero minds and may even make some people so resentful they do the opposite just to spite you. Because when it comes down to it, a lot of us are just overgrown children. There is nothing persuasive about this.

The only thing post like this do is dance on graves: it makes the original poster feel superior and smug because they are right, and the shlub idiot is wrong. It's basically saying: "Look at the idiot...they got what's coming to them...and aren't I great for not being an idiot like that person." It's about the poster, not the message they are trying to convey. And it's another symptom of the smug superiority complex that seems to be rampant in society, particularly among our elites, which then you shouldn't be surprised when you get a counter reaction from people like Trump because people want to give the finger to you right back.

Who are these "elites"? Does that not include you?
 
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