Bruddah IZ
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#8 A case is only a case if a person is sick. Mass testing asymptomatic individuals is harmful to public health.
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Bruddah IZ
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#9 Public health is about trust. To gain the trust of the public, public health officials and the media must be honest and trust the public. Shaming and fear should never be used in a pandemic.
thehill.com/opinion/health…
Bruddah IZ
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#10 Public health scientists and officials must be honest with what is not known. For example, epidemic models should be run with the whole range of plausible input parameters.
Bruddah IZ
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#11 In public health, open civilized debate is profoundly critical. Censoring, silencing and smearing leads to fear of speaking, herd thinking and distrust.
scientificamerican.com/article/the-co… @JeanneLenzer1
Bruddah IZ
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#12 It is important for public health scientists and officials to listen to the public, who are living the public health consequences. This pandemic has proved that many non-epidemiologists understand public health better than some epidemiologists.
Bruddah IZ
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THE HISTORY OF FLATH EARTHER, FEAR MONGERING FAUCI......AT IT THEN, AT IT NOW
HIS FOLLOWERS ARE HERE TODAY. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
Writing in today’s Wall Street Journal, John Tierney – looking back to the time when AIDS first arrived on the scene – observes about Covid-19 that
HIS FOLLOWERS ARE HERE TODAY. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
Writing in today’s Wall Street Journal, John Tierney – looking back to the time when AIDS first arrived on the scene – observes about Covid-19 that
Here’s another slice from Tierney’s superb WSJ essay:
The comparison of LA and Orange counties should be an end to the debate over how effective indoor mask mandates are....
www.sfgate.com
Were mask mandates effective vs. delta? What the data says
Here is a breakdown comparing the course of the delta wave in notable California counties, with and without mask mandates.
The comparison of LA and Orange counties should be an end to the debate over how effective indoor mask mandates are....
Were mask mandates effective vs. delta? What the data says
Here is a breakdown comparing the course of the delta wave in notable California counties, with and without mask mandates.
No, but you have settled the debate over whether there are any anti-mask folks on the site.
(Yes, yes. You say are not arguing against masks, you're just arguing against mandates. Wink, wink, and all that.)
Bruddah IZ
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500k deaths. Why would you argue for?
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Ha! You have joined the "anti" name-calling crowd. I thought you were more nuanced. I don't think mask mandates are particularly effective in practice in the US but I wear a mask when I am required. Does that make me "anti" mask?
It’s the mirror argument of what you are arguing about Asia…in Asia they are more culturally acclimated to them so they use them more effectively
It’s why I think they help a little on a micro basis. On a macro basis they don’t because people don’t/won’t wear them properly in situations where it actually matters: offices, construction sites, jobs with prolonged contacts; airplanes and theaters; indoor bars dining where they are just theater; private gatherings; at home with family. Plus we use a lot of the inferior cloth masks. They probably help in situations like doctors offices stores and markets but as a percentage of cases that’s just tiny
im actually agreeing with your earlier reasoning…which is also the reason mask mandates don’t show any noticeable impact (at least in the west). And “be more Asian”, as we discussed, is not policy
if anything you should be grateful that I’m offering an explanation for why your preferred tool is not working the way you want it to
You make it sound like he laughed at gravestone quotes or something...
Don’t wear them properly? So, masks only work in Asia because people there are really good and bending the nose wires just right?
You used one word too many. The problem isn’t that “people don’t wear them properly”. The problem is that people don’t wear them.
They put the mask on at the grocery store to buy beer for their indoor party, and think they did their part because they wore a mask “when required to do so”.
Ok. That’s fine (though I’d also include the chin diapers and nose peekers) . They aren’t going to help if you are working shoulder to shoulder with someone for hours (Asians might stay home if unwell). But that’s also the only place you can police it short of going full australia. That’s one reason at least why mandates will fail (another is the cloth masks). Because the places where you police them aren’t where the overwhelming amount of transmission happens. Again you are doing morality not policy.
Desert Hound
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You see dad gets stuck look at the numbers on his piece of paper and then looks around the world hoping to find something that works.
Japan and others have a variety of factors it seems that contribute to where they are vs public policy getting them there. In other words it isn't mask policy and shutting down the pub being the key driver of where they are.
The strongest statistically significant correlation we found was that countries in the Asia-Pacific region are more likely to have lower COVID-19 death levels. This supports a theory that has been proposed by Tatsuhiko Kodama, a professor at the University of Tokyo, that states people in Asia-Pacific countries (including Asian countries as well as Russia, Australia and New Zealand) have some existing background immunity due to more exposure to other coronaviruses that circulate more here.
Another strong correlation we found was that countries with higher percentages of blood type B tend to have lower levels of COVID-19 deaths. This is consistent with a recent finding by scientists studying blood type and COVID-19. We also found a correlation between a higher percentage of those with East Asian genes in the population and lower deaths, echoing studies that are currently looking into whether East Asians are genetically less susceptible.
www.japantimes.co.jp
Here is a paper looking at a variety of factors, from other early vaccines to prior exposure, to masks, etc.
www.researchgate.net
Japan and others have a variety of factors it seems that contribute to where they are vs public policy getting them there. In other words it isn't mask policy and shutting down the pub being the key driver of where they are.
The strongest statistically significant correlation we found was that countries in the Asia-Pacific region are more likely to have lower COVID-19 death levels. This supports a theory that has been proposed by Tatsuhiko Kodama, a professor at the University of Tokyo, that states people in Asia-Pacific countries (including Asian countries as well as Russia, Australia and New Zealand) have some existing background immunity due to more exposure to other coronaviruses that circulate more here.
Another strong correlation we found was that countries with higher percentages of blood type B tend to have lower levels of COVID-19 deaths. This is consistent with a recent finding by scientists studying blood type and COVID-19. We also found a correlation between a higher percentage of those with East Asian genes in the population and lower deaths, echoing studies that are currently looking into whether East Asians are genetically less susceptible.
Is Japan’s low COVID-19 death rate due to a 'higher cultural level'?
The nation's successful management of the pandemic has become a point of pride for many Japanese.
www.japantimes.co.jp
Here is a paper looking at a variety of factors, from other early vaccines to prior exposure, to masks, etc.
(PDF) Why does Japan have so few cases of COVID19?
PDF | There is a lot of interest brewing as to why Japan has such low numbers of confirmed infected cases of the COVID19 disease, caused by the... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate
www.researchgate.net
You're one of the reasonable people on this thread, I have a hard time believing you support his rhetoric. He intentionally makes up people's positions so he has something to argue about and spew ad hominems. We should call him Don Quixote since he's always "tilting at windmills".
Bruddah IZ
DA
Covid drugs & other cocktails they serve you after recent infection post J&J shot in May 2021. My buddyʻs 10th day of quarantine is today. He felt fine the whole time post infection. See below for the arsenal they employed to limp the vaccine along:
- Solu-medrol injection and
- Ivermectin tablets 10/Daily. 7 days
- Monoclonal injection 1 time
- NAC 1/daily. 14 days
- Hydroxychloroquine 2/daily. 7 day.
- Prednisone 2/daily. 7 days.
- Azithromycin 1/daily. 7 days
- Bayer aspirin 1/Daily 10 days (not prescription)
- Zinc. 1/daily 10 days (not prescription)
- Vitamin C (not prescription)
- Vitamin D3 (not prescription)
- Nebulizer, Ipratropium Bromide & Albuterol Sulfate 3-4/daily 7 days.
- Oxygen tank for whenever I want.
Bruddah IZ
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Some California counties enacted strict indoor mask mandates in response to the summer wave. Others did nothing.
But when comparing counties with similar vaccination rates, we see “near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.”
Interestingly, San Diego County — which has a higher vaccination rate than Los Angeles and Orange counties — had a higher case rate than those two counties, but similar hospitalization figures. San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange and Ventura counties had near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.
https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/...ndates-delta-COVID-19-data-works-16502191.php
But when comparing counties with similar vaccination rates, we see “near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.”
Interestingly, San Diego County — which has a higher vaccination rate than Los Angeles and Orange counties — had a higher case rate than those two counties, but similar hospitalization figures. San Diego, Los Angeles, Orange and Ventura counties had near-identical hospitalization outcomes despite different mask policies.
https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/...ndates-delta-COVID-19-data-works-16502191.php
GoldenGate
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Why are you having such a hard time confronting the reality that the anti-mask/vax shit posting that you think is so funny here isn't so funny when the exact same posts fill the FB feeds of one dead schmuck after the next? Instead, they're humiliating, pathetic and profoundly sad. You just want to pretend that there aren't actual repercussions for your irresponsible behavior.
Here are a few of the Herman Cain Award winners who subscribed to your belief that we should ignore what "lab people" say and instead rely "on the front line." Like you, they also ignored that virtually everyone on the front line says that the best way to avoid dying is to get vaccinated so we don't need to stuff your dumb ass with horse paste.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCain...en_you_go_all_in_on_vitamin_d_to_fight_covid/
It’s more comical that use use Reddit as a source for your trolling attacks……..
carry on….