Vaccine

[crush]

Bat


Baby


Abused Dog


Abused Cow To Stuff Face Latter


Hormones Too


Baby+Bat+Dog= A Baby Bat Dog injection. Add the fact most eat abused cows & chickens that are beaten and tortured all day by assholes and you got some serious deceases that looks clear as water when one takes experiment. I will name this the Baby Bat Dog injection, "Spike" for now. Basically, their is a chance some of the Jabs have a mix of some serious shit in it. No one really knows, right? Look, take as many of these Spike proteins you want. I kindly ask that you stop asking others to forcefully join you in this experiment we no nothing about. I got this flu Jan 2020 and so did many others. I was in Kirkland, WA and I can prove it. My plane was so sick everyone had the virus. Just wait for Mr. Class and Miss Action and crew will be taking. Kick me and my family out of all the fun & entertainment, cruises, flying and making a living too just because? Thanks for nothing. I will remember how selfish some of you have been. Hogging soccer is one thing, but taking a man's rights away because you cheat is not going to end well for those WHO support lying & cheating.

 

[dad4]

You'd need a tracking study done of it. Given that there's no money in it, and it might actually harm pharma's bottom line, and the researchers that conduct it won't exactly be ingratiating themselves with the powers that be in pharma and govt health, it's not surprising there's not a whole lot out there.

Why do you need a tracking study?

You already have data on previous confirmed infections. All you need is a sampling study of current patients, to answer what fraction of current covid patients also had a prior covid diagnosis. Then hit it with Bayes theorem, and you get an estimate for what fraction of prior covid patients are currently getting infected.

If the condition is rare, that method only really gets you an upper bound. But that’s ok. A low upper bound is a perfectly useful conclusion.

 

[crush]

I'm pro-Vax

I'm Pro Choice. Three choices to choose from. Therapeutic, Healthy life style and no Jab or take Jab. Any one of three choices is good with me. No one choice is better then the other. Cool?

 

[Roadrunner]

This is not a gotcha "oh you must be unreasonably paranoid" question but I am genuinely curious from you, given your background, what are you concerned about?

It's been known forever that kids aren't at severe risk of death from COVID, that it impacts primarily older people severely, and the death rate for the under 12 is below flu and RSV. Does your kid have a special need which is why you are concerned? Do you believe the Delta is more severe in children, and if so what's the backup (because so far the data out of the UK doesn't support that at least vis-a-vis death)? Do you have the same worries about Flu (given the vaccine is so imperfect) and RSV in your child?

Or are you worried about long COVID? Given your background, you know there is long flu and long RSV as well. If so, do you have a source pointing out the severity of long COVID rates in children that leads to your concerns?

I have two areas of concern. The first is simply trying to prevent the virus from continuing to replicate. There is always the probability that some of the mutant versions that arise during an infection will be more "fit"- easier to spread, resistant to antibodies produced by our immune system, higher mortality, etc. This virus was always going to be difficult to contain with its ability to spread before a person knows they're infected. So this concern is one of using all tools we have to prevent spread. Vaccines help to limit the number of good hosts for the virus, and they are great at preventing severe disease, both wonderful things. The virus needs to be squashed worldwide.

Yes, my second concern is a general one about long term damage from the virus. Some of the damage comes from the virus directly, and other damage from our immune response- or over-response. With the Delta variant, more kids will get covid, and even if Delta doesn't cause more severe covid in kids, the raw numbers of kids having severe covid will go up. Since vaccines can help prevent serious infection, and there's now lots of real world data on their safety, for me the cost benefit calculation is clear. That being said, I am of course also going to encourage people to consult with their physician as individual circumstances can vary.

 

[crush]

I have two areas of concern.

Me too
1. Stop eating meat until animal can be blessed. Animal should be free and organic. 100% real animal. Eat Veggies, fruit and nuts until fixed, trust me. Take care of the body God gave you
2. Stop dividing the country with Us vs Them. Pro-Vax vs Anti-Vax. Rich vs Poor. R vs D. Black vs White. Heaven vs Hell. My way or the highway.

 

[Desert Hound]

With the Delta variant, more kids will get covid, and even if Delta doesn't cause more severe covid in kids, the raw numbers of kids having severe covid will go up.

Let us put covid in perspective shall we?

Where does covid rank as an issue for the young?

 

[NOVA.Dad]

What data is out there says it's rare. Is the data really that much better for the vaccinated getting infected? I seriously doubt it, but you hear that message everyday, every hour, that the vaccinated are getting infected.

Fully vaccinated people are still getting infected with Covid. Experts explain why

So-called "breakthrough" Covid cases are being seen in people who have had two doses of a coronavirus vaccine.

www.cnbc.com

It’s difficult to know the full extent of “breakthrough” Covid cases because cases in vaccinated people tend to be mild or asymptomatic and could go easily go unnoticed, but figures collected by NBC News has found that at least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive for Covid and 1,400 of those have died. Still, the 125,682 “breakthrough” cases in 38 states found by NBC News represented less than 0.08% of the 164.2 million-plus people (and counting) who have been fully vaccinated since the start of the year, or about one in every 1,300.

 

[Desert Hound]

Fully vaccinated people are still getting infected with Covid. Experts explain why

So-called "breakthrough" Covid cases are being seen in people who have had two doses of a coronavirus vaccine.

www.cnbc.com

It’s difficult to know the full extent of “breakthrough” Covid cases because cases in vaccinated people tend to be mild or asymptomatic and could go easily go unnoticed, but figures collected by NBC News has found that at least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive for Covid and 1,400 of those have died. Still, the 125,682 “breakthrough” cases in 38 states found by NBC News represented less than 0.08% of the 164.2 million-plus people (and counting) who have been fully vaccinated since the start of the year, or about one in every 1,300.

I suspect of those deaths most had serious health issues. And per usual we don't know if they simply tested positive for the virus, or did the virus actually lead to death.

 

[crush]

These two sure look a like.

 

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[watfly]

Fully vaccinated people are still getting infected with Covid. Experts explain why

So-called "breakthrough" Covid cases are being seen in people who have had two doses of a coronavirus vaccine.

www.cnbc.com

It’s difficult to know the full extent of “breakthrough” Covid cases because cases in vaccinated people tend to be mild or asymptomatic and could go easily go unnoticed, but figures collected by NBC News has found that at least 125,000 fully vaccinated Americans have tested positive for Covid and 1,400 of those have died. Still, the 125,682 “breakthrough” cases in 38 states found by NBC News represented less than 0.08% of the 164.2 million-plus people (and counting) who have been fully vaccinated since the start of the year, or about one in every 1,300.

Thanks for proving my point.

CNBC can collect figures on breakthrough infections but can't collect figures on the unvaccinated that have got infected twice. Seems odd that that info isn't available don't you think?

 

[crush]

Thanks for proving my point.

CNBC can collect figures on breakthrough infections but can't collect figures on the unvaccinated that have got infected twice. Seems odd that that info isn't available don't you think?

I can't believe you can be Pro-Vax. I'm a little shocked but I understand you well now. Did you just watch that video of Joey Bribes talking about the V? Bro, come on now, your smarter than that? Dont let pride get in the way. The sooner everyone realizes we've all been played the sooner we can fix this crime against Humanity and pf the century. You remind me of my pal up in Kirkland btw. Super good businessman and takes care of all his employees. Are you mandating the vax at your company?

 

[dad4]

Thanks for proving my point.

More importantly, it's good news for the southeast.

If reinfections are rare, that puts a cap on how long FL can keep getting worse. 1 to 1.5 million more confirmed cases would be enough to to lift them from 70% to 90%.

My swag is 3 weeks. Maybe 4 if schools cause a bump.

They could also put on masks and dine outside. But that's crazy talk.

 

[espola]

A lot of people are talking to themselves in this thread. It's not really necessary - you have already convinced yourselves.

 

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[Grace T.]

I have two areas of concern. The first is simply trying to prevent the virus from continuing to replicate. There is always the probability that some of the mutant versions that arise during an infection will be more "fit"- easier to spread, resistant to antibodies produced by our immune system, higher mortality, etc. This virus was always going to be difficult to contain with its ability to spread before a person knows they're infected. So this concern is one of using all tools we have to prevent spread. Vaccines help to limit the number of good hosts for the virus, and they are great at preventing severe disease, both wonderful things. The virus needs to be squashed worldwide.

Yes, my second concern is a general one about long term damage from the virus. Some of the damage comes from the virus directly, and other damage from our immune response- or over-response. With the Delta variant, more kids will get covid, and even if Delta doesn't cause more severe covid in kids, the raw numbers of kids having severe covid will go up. Since vaccines can help prevent serious infection, and there's now lots of real world data on their safety, for me the cost benefit calculation is clear. That being said, I am of course also going to encourage people to consult with their physician as individual circumstances can vary.

As to the first, the issue is the world isn't going to be vaccinated until 2023. That's plenty of a repository for more mutations, not to mention there is an increasing number of zoonotic host possibilities. And if you think about it the world's elderly won't be vaccinated completely until the end of 2021 or early 2022 depending on how it goes in the poorest nations....yet we would be vaccinating low risk children.

I hear you by way of the second. More numbers mean ---> more chances for something serious, but on an individual risk basis, nothing here seems to indicate that your child's individual roll of the dice will be weighted against him/or her unless there is an underlying condition. Here's a pretty good thread. In any case appreciate your response...given your background was wondering if you had seen something I had overlooked.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1424748537523355649

 

[watfly]

Are you mandating the vax at your company?

No, that's an individual employee's choice in regards to their personal medical treatment. We've asked our employees their vaccination status and required masks for unvaccinated employees (as allowed by law). If you're sick, you stay home. California is a very tricky state when it comes to balancing employees and customer interests (ie liabilities).

 

[Grace T.]

Why do you need a tracking study?

You already have data on previous confirmed infections. All you need is a sampling study of current patients, to answer what fraction of current covid patients also had a prior covid diagnosis. Then hit it with Bayes theorem, and you get an estimate for what fraction of prior covid patients are currently getting infected.

If the condition is rare, that method only really gets you an upper bound. But that’s ok. A low upper bound is a perfectly useful conclusion.

Because, as we've seen from some of the confusion in numbers out of Florida, California, or Minnesota, this info isn't kept in a central repository researches can look up. You need to know not only if there was a positive result (hopefully two tests and not the rapid test) and when it was taken. Furthermore, doing that sampling only tells you about today....it doesn't tell you (unless all of them were from before summer last year when testing also wasn't great) what happens more than a year out. It's possible you could be immune 3 months, 6, a year or forever. Finally, it would be nice to compare variant to variant to see if that makes any difference.

 

[crush]

No, that's an individual employee's choice in regards to their personal medical treatment. We've asked our employees their vaccination status and required masks for unvaccinated employees (as allowed by law). If you're sick, you stay home. California is a very tricky state when it comes to balancing employees and customer interests (ie liabilities).

Excellent bro. I appreciate that. I like to knock doors for a living but I'm afraid to piss people off to ask if they need anymore customers with or without a mask. Either way, I'm going to piss off someone. My SEO vendor wants me to sell for him and give me a slice of the profit. I'm re-branding my company and this is super hard to do. Honest opinion. Should I wear a mask on my original cold call or no mask?

 

[crush]

Control Freak: I mandate you to do as I say.
Sheep: ok
Lion: No way
Control Freak: I mandate you to take experimental drugs when i tell you to.
Sheep: ok
Lion: Never
Control Freak: I mandate you to STFU.
Sheep: Ok master
Lion: You STFU back
Control Freak: I mandate you to take two jabs+boosters or you can't work here anymore.
Sheep: ok
Lion: Are you freaking crazy. get that Baby Bat Dog Spike mix away from me and my family. You jabbers are contagious too, I got this flu last year and feel awesome.
Control freak: I am your master.
Sheep: OK, whatever you say master mandater.
Lion: I only have one master
Sheep: When will this end?
Control Freak: STFU and stop asking any questions you stupid sheep.
Lion: When you wake up dumb sheep

 

[N00B]

Me too
1. Stop eating meat until animal can be blessed. Animal should be free and organic. 100% real animal. Eat Veggies, fruit and nuts until fixed, trust me. Take care of the body God gave you
2. Stop dividing the country with Us vs Them. Pro-Vax vs Anti-Vax. Rich vs Poor. R vs D. Black vs White. Heaven vs Hell. My way or the highway.

Stop complaining about the consequences of your choice to not ‘get the jab’… sorry it’s inconvenient to exercise your freedom.

Maybe you could spend more time telling other people what they should put in their bodies. NVM, you already do that and they’re fine with the consequences of meat, alcohol, etc.