Vaccine

Well tell that to my pal with blood clot on the back of leg Roadrunner. He told me it feels like a gnarly Charlie horse. He got fever and got his ass to ER. Blood thinner saved his life. Thank God for that drug, right?

Dude is drinking blood thinner now and has to for a long time. Plus, two jabs already with more boosters to come. WTF is he putting in his body? Perfectly healthy before and not no more. No, no, no death is not knocking on door but he's full of fear bro. Welcome to the forum & Camp Delta bro. NSA/Space Force is watching you big time and me as well. I got serious threat from assholes three years ago who were cheating big time. Welcome to the forum BTW. Husker, Dad and Poorespola need back up big time.

Man, ever since I got the vaccine I've felt amazing. I've dropped 30lbs, been biking like a mad man. I'm crushing my strava times from 10+ years ago and I used to race. I keep telling myself the vaccine is better than HGH. Coincidence? Probably, but I'm certainly not feeling worse.
 
Man, ever since I got the vaccine I've felt amazing. I've dropped 30lbs, been biking like a mad man. I'm crushing my strava times from 10+ years ago and I used to race. I keep telling myself the vaccine is better than HGH. Coincidence? Probably, but I'm certainly not feeling worse.
Thanks for sharing. I'm sure you will be a lifetime time booster....lol! Anyone else have true news? I mean it. Share good news of how the jab has been so wonderful. Let's here it from the jabbers. I believe that if you want the jab, get the jab. If you dont, don't. Why am I being labeled a drunk driver and being accused of giving the delta out? BTW, super proud of you for dropping 30 Lbs. I only said the people I know who are sick have been jabbed. I also know K&S and he was jabbed and also listen to crush and eat more veggies and lost weight. You can do both the jab and lose weight. The fact still remains the same. Assholes are dividing our country with the vax vs non-vax. It's sad as shit and so funny that people lose everything. I hope you enjoy the experience. Happy for you Nocal dad
 
Man, ever since I got the vaccine I've felt amazing. I've dropped 30lbs, been biking like a mad man. I'm crushing my strava times from 10+ years ago and I used to race. I keep telling myself the vaccine is better than HGH. Coincidence? Probably, but I'm certainly not feeling worse.
You should do a commercial for the jab...lol. It's written well and I believe you.
 
Man, ever since I got the vaccine I've felt amazing. I've dropped 30lbs, been biking like a mad man. I'm crushing my strava times from 10+ years ago and I used to race. I keep telling myself the vaccine is better than HGH. Coincidence? Probably, but I'm certainly not feeling worse.
You are full of shit! You probably gained 30lbs and is lethargic
 
You are full of shit! You probably gained 30lbs and is lethargic

I'm crapping you negative Batman. Even played some soccer the other day and felt better than ever. You should give it a whirl if you haven't already. Even mentally I'm feeling amped and ready to go. I'd take 10 more shots if I could.
 
Man, ever since I got the vaccine I've felt amazing. I've dropped 30lbs, been biking like a mad man. I'm crushing my strava times from 10+ years ago and I used to race. I keep telling myself the vaccine is better than HGH. Coincidence? Probably, but I'm certainly not feeling worse.
That would explain the new Olympic records this year....
 
I'm crapping you negative Batman. Even played some soccer the other day and felt better than ever. You should give it a whirl if you haven't already. Even mentally I'm feeling amped and ready to go. I'd take 10 more shots if I could.
I choose no to do the the whirl of getting the jabs and I hope I can find work without it. So many people who owned small businesses have lost it all NoCal. Do you have any empathy for others? The jab mandate is coming. My dd will not be able to attend school her Sr year from what is going down behind the scenes of desperation by the main cheats who have back against the wall because they cheated and lied. No jab, no prom. No jab, no after school soccer. No jab, no dreams. No jab, no access. All this from the same assholes that kept my dd out of the Elitist soccer league called the GDA. Same elitist who cheat all the time so their dd or ds can have all the access. Selfishness will be so many people's downfall. Karma is coming hard for those WHO lie, cheat, kill, destroy and harm innocence. Mark my words.
 
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I choose no to do the the whirl of getting the jabs and I hope I can find work without it. So many people who owned small businesses have lost it all NoCal. Do you have any empathy for others? The jab mandate is coming. My dd will not be able to attend school her Sr year from what is going down behind the scenes of desperation by the main cheats who have back against the wall because they cheated and lied. No jab, no prom. No jab, no after school soccer. No jab, no dreams. No jab, no access. All this from the same assholes that kept my dd out of the Elitist soccer league called the GDA. Same elitist who cheat all the time so their dd or ds can have all the access. Selfishness will be so many people's downfall. Karma is coming hard for those WHO lie, cheat, kill, destroy and harm innocence. Mark my words.

Hard for me to have empathy for anti-vaxers when I feel this effing good. Plus your anecdotes don't ring true in my circles.

Be back in a bit. Going to go hit the trails.
 
Hard for me to have empathy for anti-vaxers when I feel this effing good. Plus your anecdotes don't ring true in my circles.

Be back in a bit. Going to go hit the trails.
I'm happy you found your happiness. Thanks for being honest NorCalDad. I'm SoCalDad and I will fight my dd rights and I will fight for my wife and my rights. My dd has almost zero chance of dying from the flu or Corona as you call it. Zero chance dude. She can catch the flu and if her lungs fill up, she could die. I had X girlfriend who went to UCLA back in the day. Anyway, her roommate died from the flu, no joke. We all went out on a double date and she looked amazing. Happy, running trails and just on fire for life. Two days later, my X told me her roomy was filling super sick. Coughing and hard to breath because her poor lungs were filling up. She went to ER and died three days later from the flu. It happened every year until 2020, when the flu went away and was replaced by Corona. Now your forced to get flu shot or as some like to call the spiked vaccine. BTW, I was told by a Military pal that some people will become more A.I. with the jabs and will be programed to train and get ready. They have access to your brain now. Be careful what you believe and inject in your arms. Did you get #3? You are now the second person that told me the Jabs are making him feel powerful, just like this fool.........

 
Man, ever since I got the vaccine I've felt amazing. I've dropped 30lbs, been biking like a mad man. I'm crushing my strava times from 10+ years ago and I used to race. I keep telling myself the vaccine is better than HGH. Coincidence? Probably, but I'm certainly not feeling worse.
Are you sure you got the vaccine and not a steroid shot?
 
Are you sure you got the vaccine and not a steroid shot?
Look out Wat Fly, I have no idea wtf is in these last batches. All I know is their experimental. I know for a fact that other trials of experimenting with viruses and jabs were the use of Baby parts, Bat parts and Dog parts. Dr. Stanley said the kids they used for their experiment was kids who were abused or came from a bad tribe. I'm sure they didnt take dogs away from happy homes. They found abused dogs who probably had rabies as well but I can;t prove that at this time and then went to a Bat cave to get the Bat. They take poor Spike, the Bat and little Baby human from her mom and made "spike protein" and then mix it all up and shake it. I'm getting concerned that people might have rabies and or some sort of spike adrenaline that makes people feel super human and above the basic rights of others and will only obey their master puppet.

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Isn’t it interesting that they have all the data available except for that?

So don’t blame the “Unvaxx’d” as a whole as you can’t quantify how many of those “Unvaxx’d” have Natures Vaccine!
BS they don't have the data. If the previously infected were having subsequent infections in any substantial fashion you would be hearing about it all day long as more evidence that you have to be vaccinated and wear a mask. Those that are controlling the message don't want any other message out there than vaccinations and masks, with the emphasis on masks since the vaccinated can have breakthrough infections.

I'm pro-Vax and would recommend everyone get a vaccination, but I can understand how the previously infected would question the necessity of getting a vaccine. There is also quite a few doctors that question this as well. It's not uncommon for the previously infected to have a significant reaction to the vaccine. It's not unreasonable to question a vaccine that makes you really sick before its supposed to protect you.

I believe there is more than one way to approach this virus and I don't think there is necessarily a "one size fits all" solution. Why? Because the virus is going to do its thing regardless of what we do. Take the vaccination for example. The majority of "experts" said you don't need a mask if you're vaccinated. While, I believe they made that recommendation in good faith, as it turns out a not insignificant number of vaccinated are getting infected. So now its back to wearing masks for the vaccinated. Why were the "experts" wrong? Because the virus doesn't give a shit about "expert" opinion. This has been the case since day one of the pandemic.

So what do we do? Don't be stupid if you think you're infected and move on with life...Obama has. Stop pretending like "window dressing" is going to stop the virus. In particular, let kids get an uninterrupted education, i.e. stop f'ing with kids like the pandemic is their cross to bear.
 
BS they don't have the data. If the previously infected were having subsequent infections in any substantial fashion you would be hearing about it all day long as more evidence that you have to be vaccinated and wear a mask. Those that are controlling the message don't want any other message out there than vaccinations and masks, with the emphasis on masks since the vaccinated can have breakthrough infections.

I'm pro-Vax and would recommend everyone get a vaccination, but I can understand how the previously infected would question the necessity of getting a vaccine. There is also quite a few doctors that question this as well. It's not uncommon for the previously infected to have a significant reaction to the vaccine. It's not unreasonable to question a vaccine that makes you really sick before its supposed to protect you.

I believe there is more than one way to approach this virus and I don't think there is necessarily a "one size fits all" solution. Why? Because the virus is going to do its thing regardless of what we do. Take the vaccination for example. The majority of "experts" said you don't need a mask if you're vaccinated. While, I believe they made that recommendation in good faith, as it turns out a not insignificant number of vaccinated are getting infected. So now its back to wearing masks for the vaccinated. Why were the "experts" wrong? Because the virus doesn't give a shit about "expert" opinion. This has been the case since day one of the pandemic.

So what do we do? Don't be stupid if you think you're infected and move on with life...Obama has. Stop pretending like "window dressing" is going to stop the virus. In particular, let kids get an uninterrupted education, i.e. stop f'ing with kids like the pandemic is their cross to bear.
Of course there is data. This particular industry exists because of it. Take a deep dive into the money trail (if you have time in your busy life). And those that will scoff at the idea of a money trail and claim conspiracy has no idea how the pharma world works and how the medical community is interwoven into it. Especially those that have achieved such status in their line of work. Fauci is a proven liar, no doubt about it. At a minimum, he knows how to work the system, has been doing it for years.

There is plenty of disagreement within the public health community on the topic of kids and vaccine. There has been enough push back and data that the FDA has stayed away from claiming the vaccines are safe for kids under 12. What happens next with the vaccines will be half science, and half politics. The U12 demographic represents plenty of $$$.

As @watfly has so eloquently stated ---let's stop messing with the kids.
 
BS they don't have the data. If the previously infected were having subsequent infections in any substantial fashion you would be hearing about it all day long as more evidence that you have to be vaccinated and wear a mask. Those that are controlling the message don't want any other message out there than vaccinations and masks, with the emphasis on masks since the vaccinated can have breakthrough infections.

I'm pro-Vax and would recommend everyone get a vaccination, but I can understand how the previously infected would question the necessity of getting a vaccine. There is also quite a few doctors that question this as well. It's not uncommon for the previously infected to have a significant reaction to the vaccine. It's not unreasonable to question a vaccine that makes you really sick before its supposed to protect you.

I believe there is more than one way to approach this virus and I don't think there is necessarily a "one size fits all" solution. Why? Because the virus is going to do its thing regardless of what we do. Take the vaccination for example. The majority of "experts" said you don't need a mask if you're vaccinated. While, I believe they made that recommendation in good faith, as it turns out a not insignificant number of vaccinated are getting infected. So now its back to wearing masks for the vaccinated. Why were the "experts" wrong? Because the virus doesn't give a shit about "expert" opinion. This has been the case since day one of the pandemic.

So what do we do? Don't be stupid if you think you're infected and move on with life...Obama has. Stop pretending like "window dressing" is going to stop the virus. In particular, let kids get an uninterrupted education, i.e. stop f'ing with kids like the pandemic is their cross to bear.

The Delta variant is so much better at infecting us that viral loads can be 1000x higher. So, this means the baseline is raised now so that even some vaccinated people can accumulate virus in their upper respiratory passages. Hence the need to change mask guidance in order to try to reduce spread. (That being said, the CDC lost some credibility during this pandemic- they need to be doing better, in my opinion. I also wish the FDA wasn't slow walking emergency approval for vaccines for the younger kids. They could have requested that Pfizer and moderns conduct larger clinical trail groups much earlier.)

I have to rely on my community to help protect my under 12 child. As soon as vaccines become available for her age group, I will definitely be bringing her in.
 
I have to rely on my community to help protect my under 12 child.

This is not a gotcha "oh you must be unreasonably paranoid" question but I am genuinely curious from you, given your background, what are you concerned about?

It's been known forever that kids aren't at severe risk of death from COVID, that it impacts primarily older people severely, and the death rate for the under 12 is below flu and RSV. Does your kid have a special need which is why you are concerned? Do you believe the Delta is more severe in children, and if so what's the backup (because so far the data out of the UK doesn't support that at least vis-a-vis death)? Do you have the same worries about Flu (given the vaccine is so imperfect) and RSV in your child?

Or are you worried about long COVID? Given your background, you know there is long flu and long RSV as well. If so, do you have a source pointing out the severity of long COVID rates in children that leads to your concerns?
 
The Delta variant is so much better at infecting us that viral loads can be 1000x higher. So, this means the baseline is raised now so that even some vaccinated people can accumulate virus in their upper respiratory passages. Hence the need to change mask guidance in order to try to reduce spread. (That being said, the CDC lost some credibility during this pandemic- they need to be doing better, in my opinion. I also wish the FDA wasn't slow walking emergency approval for vaccines for the younger kids. They could have requested that Pfizer and moderns conduct larger clinical trail groups much earlier.)

I have to rely on my community to help protect my under 12 child. As soon as vaccines become available for her age group, I will definitely be bringing her in.
I understand the basis for the mask recommendation due to Delta. Circumstances change. My point is that its impossible to predict what the virus will do because it has a mind of its own and its a fool's errand to believe we can stop it, as the last 18 months have clearly proven. We can point fingers as to why the virus continues to spread, but its primarily the viruses fault, not white republicans, not anti-vaxxers, not Pelosi and Schumer when Trump was President.

Does this mean we should do nothing? No. Get a vaccine if your comfortable. Quarantine when your sick, like we've traditionally treated pandemics. There is nothing that is even materially effective against asymptomatics spreading the virus. Why interrupt business and education, in some cases permanently, for token measures that have not proven to have a material impact on the virus.

My 17 year old daughter was the first to get the vaccine in our family because she does volunteer work for senior organizations. My son is 13 and based on consultation with his doctor we've opted not to get him vaccinated at this time.
 
Quick check, sample of one.


You'd need a tracking study done of it. Given that there's no money in it, and it might actually harm pharma's bottom line, and the researchers that conduct it won't exactly be ingratiating themselves with the powers that be in pharma and govt health, it's not surprising there's not a whole lot out there.
 
You'd need a tracking study done of it. Given that there's no money in it, and it might actually harm pharma's bottom line, it's not surprising there's not a whole lot out there.
What data is out there says it's rare. Is the data really that much better for the vaccinated getting infected? I seriously doubt it, but you hear that message everyday, every hour, that the vaccinated are getting infected.
 
So what do we do? Don't be stupid if you think you're infected and move on with life..
THIS^^^

We have to stop the chattering class determine our lives. Time to move on. No masks, restrictions on dining, movement, etc. Time to go back to living life.

If you want the vax get it.

If you don't, then don't.

And if someone gets sick and dies? That is part of life and dealing with a myriad of diseases out there.
 
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