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Copa9 said:
It's so surprising how weak minded some people are, afraid to wear a face mask under the guise of "freedom". True snowflakes.
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Yeah they are fighting for freedom from wearing face masks when here in California their child can have surgery without their knowledge at the age of 12, and their 12 year old child can prevent them from seeing their medical records. That 12 year old can also start taking medication without their knowledge but face masks is where these freedom fighters draw the line.
 
Jose has returned said:
We will be fine.......28,567,355 test given.....2,369,039 positive test 115,531 deaths. those are the national numbers on Politico site.
Ca. population 40 million
5,632 death190,222 positive3,592,899 test
The OC 227,962 tests 11,016 positive 299 of the positive died.1/2 of the death are from care facilities. 93% of the other 150 had underlying conditions
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Do you have to yell? If your data is solid, let it stand on merit.
 
Copa9 said:
You do realize there have been significant hospital layoffs due to low capacity, right?
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Hospital layoffs are due to the fact that people have stopped going to the hospital for band aids, stomach aches, head aches and elective plastic surgery, not as many sports injuries, fewer car accidents (although in the beginning people were racing on freeways and we had an increase in fatalities) and other elective procedures.
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Plus folks like my in laws have serious fear to set foot in a Hospital and so do I. Triple bonus for Corona too......That's where 100% the virus lives and looks to kill the weak and the old.
 
watfly said:
I have to believe that the vast majority of people have been exposed to Covid on some level or another, maybe not direct contact, but odds are you've touched something or been in the same space as a Covid positive person.

Ultimately in regards to resuming youth sports, the difference in opinions is based on someone's individual perception of risk (aka fear) and the level of risk they're willing to accept. Based on the comments here, it appears that those who are most fearful, are basing their fear on what could happen, whereas those who are less fearful are basing it on what has actually happened. When I've posted good, or positive information, I can't tell you how many posters have basically said "oh just wait, its going to get worse" like were going to run out of icu beds, doctors are going to have to make life or death decisions on who to treat etc. The common justification was "lag time". I heard that every time when I mentioned how well Georgia was doing with their reopening, "oh no you have wait a month" a month passes with the number of deaths plummeting, "oh no, you have to wait a few more months, be patient". Two months later and Covid deaths in Georgia continue to plummet. It's incredible how many people use the "lag time" argument to just kick the can of Covid fears down the road. News flash, Covid isn't going away, but its basically only dangerous to a minority of people with very identifiable characteristics.

At the end of the day, I'm not going to convince those that disagree with me. Which is the beauty of choice, just don't project your fears on my behavior or others and take my choice away. While I wear a mask in public out of respect for others, there is simple solution if you run into someone that isn't, move 6 feet away. No harm, no foul.
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As of today, cases in Georgia are surging with all 159 counties reporting cases. There are now about 70,000 cases in Georgia. Three counties have higher per capita case rates and death rates than New York. There have now been about 2,700 deaths with 2,200 in critical condition and the numbers are going up.
 
Copa9 said:
As of today, cases in Georgia are surging with all 159 counties reporting cases. There are now about 70,000 cases in Georgia. Three counties have higher per capita case rates and death rates than New York. There have now been about 2,700 deaths with 2,200 in critical condition and the numbers are going up.
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734,234 tests 69,368 positive 2,698 death. in georgia
 
AYSO is back training

Full on men's game going down

Baseball middle schoolers play on the ball diamond

High Schoolers playing a scrimmage w/ portable goals

At least two personal trainers with half a dozen players one of them using one of the signs says field use prohibited as a goal marker

Good times walking the dogs around, see about half dozen people I know so we catch up
 
Copa9 said:
Tell that to the 17 year old girl who just died in Florida today from covid, just two days after her birthday.
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i cant tell her she is dead. what was her health history? 17 year olds also die while playing sports every year from some undetected health problem. 7000 people died today from something other than covid. life is risky and precious.
 
Chalklines said:
www.tampabay.com

Fort Myers girl, 17, dead from coronavirus complications, according to reports

The news follows the confirmation Saturday that a 17-year-old Pasco County boy had died from the disease.
www.tampabay.com www.tampabay.com

You know ZERO about her medical background and underlying health conditions.
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True, and how many children have unknown underlying conditions? We don't know if she did or didn't. We don't know and need to be careful with opening contact sports with our children. Covid is not your typical virus;
 
Copa9 said:
Have you looked at the numbers in Georgia as of today?
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Just looked and the death rate continues to nosedive. I suppose you are looking at the new cases which you will claim due to the tired refrain of "lag time" will result in significant deaths. (BTW Georgia has been reopened for months and I find it curious that there is a sudden spike a week or two after the protests, looting and riots.) I'm sure you will post here in glee if that ever turns out to be right. Like I said before I find it extremely odd behavior to want things to be worse than they are.
Ellejustus said:
Tell that to all the teens who killed themselves today. I heard also about a 17 year old who did of cancer and another one just had the common flu and she died. We might know the same people Copa
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Unfortunately I know a couple teens in our community who have committed suicide as well as a few more in other communities. Was it due to the social isolation, hard to say, but suicide is one of the non-covid health impacts of the lockdown that medical professional are very concerned about. In fact some are seeing an unprecedented rise in suicides https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-19-coronavirus-rates-during-pandemic-death-by/6201962/

This whole tunnel vision with Covid approach is seriously fucked up.
 
Messi>CR7 said:
You want soccer back to normal? Be pragmatic. Wear you mask, do your share of social distancing, get the positive test rate down to 4% again, then more and more things will open up.

No amount of whining or outrage on this forum will result in anything if the infection rate continues at the current pace.
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Let's call it a peaceful protest... that's pragmatic:D
 
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Keepermom2 said:
Herd immunity....How well did that theory work out for Sweden?

"Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic. If many people become sick with COVID-19 at once, the health care system could quickly become overwhelmed. This amount of infection could also lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those who have chronic conditions."

I already stated over and over again....I am not worried about my kid playing soccer outside. I am worried about the herd ignorance that has been achieved from people quoting information from February and March that will result in us having to go into various levels of shut down because of hospital capacity. I presented the numbers from yesterday to show there are some concerns because the County and/or the State will have no other option but to make shut down choices because of hospital capacity. This is from today.

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The uptick in COVID positive ICU patients in the state the past 10 days looks to be a bit over a 10% (around 1100 to about 1220). What is interesting is that LA is flat to barely down. OC is more or less flat if you look at the last 10 days. SD had a sudden drop during the 10 days then resumed at basically the same level so it didn't significantly contribute to the rise in the last 10 days. However, San Bernardino, Riverside, Kern, Stanislaus and Santa Barbara are obviously rising and hit new highs the last 10 days.

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Copa9 said:
As of today, cases in Georgia are surging with all 159 counties reporting cases. There are now about 70,000 cases in Georgia. Three counties have higher per capita case rates and death rates than New York. There have now been about 2,700 deaths with 2,200 in critical condition and the numbers are going up.
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Then stay home and cower "snowflake" :rolleyes:
 
watfly said:
Just looked and the death rate continues to nosedive. I suppose you are looking at the new cases which you will claim due to the tired refrain of "lag time" will result in significant deaths. (BTW Georgia has been reopened for months and I find it curious that there is a sudden spike a week or two after the protests, looting and riots.) I'm sure you will post here in glee if that ever turns out to be right. Like I said before I find it extremely odd behavior to want things to be worse than they are.

Unfortunately I know a couple teens in our community who have committed suicide as well as a few more in other communities. Was it due to the social isolation, hard to say, but suicide is one of the non-covid health impacts of the lockdown that medical professional are very concerned about. In fact some are seeing an unprecedented rise in suicides https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-19-coronavirus-rates-during-pandemic-death-by/6201962/

This whole tunnel vision with Covid approach is seriously fucked up.
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A soul needs a meaning and purpose to live. Keep in mind a lot of these kids thought we were going to have a war with North Korea and or Iran. Then the Corona and riots after that. Crazy ass times for the youth.
 
Copa9 said:
As of today, cases in Georgia are surging with all 159 counties reporting cases. There are now about 70,000 cases in Georgia. Three counties have higher per capita case rates and death rates than New York. There have now been about 2,700 deaths with 2,200 in critical condition and the numbers are going up.
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Yeah, I had hoped that the opening in GA was going to work out so we could copy it.

I don’t know if GA is growing because the plan was bad, or the plan was good except for the protests.

I really wish we could all wear masks and limit contacts. Compared to everything else, wearing a mask and having my bridge night online is not a big deal.
 
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