Recruiting Tips for Parents Just Starting the Process

Justafan said:
Playing high school has little to do with the level of play, it’s almost ALL about the social aspect.
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Yes, I agree but some teams are terrible and others have a decent level of play so it can still be fun for the stronger players. Regardless of the social benefit, if the level of play falls below a standard it is not fun
 
Simisoccerfan said:
I hesitate to post this since I know how some people respond on this forum but my dd hurt her knee last week on the same day she signed her NLI. She is the sweetest, hardest working girl and I have been sick to my stomach these past few days. She spoke to her college coach before turning in the NLI (since that is the right thing to do) and they told her not to worry. They hope for the best but either way they are happy to have her. MRI was done today and it will be a few days until we know the results. You can hate on me all you want but please send positive thoughts her way.
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Nothing but the best of luck and speedy recovery for your daughter. Just sit back now and be positive for your daughter and know she will be fine. My DD will graduate college in May and it really feels like yesterday she graduated HS.
 
Update. Torn ACL and partially torn meniscus. We will know the surgery date tomorrow. dd is in good spirits. College coaches have been great and very supportive. Dr says she will be out 4 to 9 months depending on how her training goes. She will be at college for summer school starting in June and their medical/training staff will guide her recovery.
 
MarkM said:
You are aware that even if DA changed the rule, CIF prevents DA players from competing in CIF. That's what makes this thread so ridiculous. CIF has the same rule as DA, except DA makes an exception for national team players. No ODP, no club, no national team games under CIF rules (see Section 600 under the bylaws). Yet, we are making this about kids playing DA? You also seem confused about the HS soccer season. Depending on what part of the country you are in, HS season could be a different season. That's why ECNL has so many showcases so it accommodate the different HS seasons.

And yes, some players rather play DA (or on any club team) than play HS. In HS, you have no choice regarding your coach or teammates. Some coaches and teammates are awful, which is 4 years of misery. It's worse in HS when kids are so click-ish and you have upperclasswomen who can be petty. I've had some love HS teams, and others hate HS teams. It's far from Disneyland.
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What you wrote is not correct.

CIF - Southern Section (and the others) prohibits players competing on a HS team from "competing" in the same sport during the HS season for that sport, which means HS aged players cannot play on Rec, Club, ODP, ECNL, DA, etc. The DA prohibits DA players from competing on a HS team while rostered on the DA team, unless a waiver is given by the DA.

The DA does not go on break during the HS season (like club soccer), thus, active DA players have to be released from their DA team to play HS and under the DA rules, cannot rejoin the team until the following season.

The CIF has no rules preventing DA players from playing HS, except the general prohibition against competing on an outside team during the HS season.
 
MWN said:
What you wrote is not correct.

CIF - Southern Section (and the others) prohibits players competing on a HS team from "competing" in the same sport during the HS season for that sport, which means HS aged players cannot play on Rec, Club, ODP, ECNL, DA, etc. The DA prohibits DA players from competing on a HS team while rostered on the DA team, unless a waiver is given by the DA.

The DA does not go on break during the HS season (like club soccer), thus, active DA players have to be released from their DA team to play HS and under the DA rules, cannot rejoin the team until the following season.

The CIF has no rules preventing DA players from playing HS, except the general prohibition against competing on an outside team during the HS season.
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DA is a 10-month season. CIF is a 3-4 month season. Both DA and CIF prevent players from competing in outside competition during their seasons. If you are making some distinction about whether a player is technically rostered or released in DA, I think you are missing the point.
 
I advise anyone with an aspiring college player to get them in the habit now of good nutrition and taking care of their body. Not to mention serious study habits. Without a solid foundation in those areas the grind of all that college soccer entails will absolutely breakdown even the best players. Start the preparation early. Those things can be the difference between a positive and negative experience. Preparation in those areas allows a player to hit the ground running. The fact that many of the best female players are also excellent students is not a coincidence.

Good luck and great health to all of the amazing young players out there looking to play on the next level.
 
Not sure if this has been touched upon recently, but I hear that further changes for recruitment guidelines will be voted on at the next NCAA meeting in April, including doing away with verbal commitments and any communication (either directly with player or via club coach) until junior year. Anyone have more information?
 
dejong21 said:
Not sure if this has been touched upon recently, but I hear that further changes for recruitment guidelines will be voted on at the next NCAA meeting in April, including doing away with verbal commitments and any communication (either directly with player or via club coach) until junior year. Anyone have more information?
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I don't know about the verbal commitment part, but they are essentially eliminating communications with recruits until June 15 after sophomore year. Players will not be able to contact coaches. Coaches will be able to contact recruits starting June 15 (instead of waiting until September under the current rules). This would seem to eliminate the possibility of verbal commitments until after sophomore year.

I'm sure there are some exceptions to the limitation on communications. Maybe communications during camps? Or recruiting inquiry forms?

Anyone else with more insight?
 
Glen said:
I don't know about the verbal commitment part, but they are essentially eliminating communications with recruits until June 15 after sophomore year. Players will not be able to contact coaches. Coaches will be able to contact recruits starting June 15 (instead of waiting until September under the current rules). This would seem to eliminate the possibility of verbal commitments until after sophomore year.

I'm sure there are some exceptions to the limitation on communications. Maybe communications during camps? Or recruiting inquiry forms?

Anyone else with more insight?
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It will not eliminate the ability to commit early, but you're correct on the communication part. Ultimately if a recruit can't communicate with a coaching staff, in theory it will deter any further planned early commits.
 
Dubs said:
It will not eliminate the ability to commit early, but you're correct on the communication part. Ultimately if a recruit can't communicate with a coaching staff, in theory it will deter any further planned early commits.
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How would you be able to commit early if you cannot communicate with the staff? There always seems to be a loophole, but I can't figure it out with this rule change. I also think that would garner the unwelcome attention of the NCAA if a kid committed early.
 
100% believe all communication should not be allowed prior to start junior year. That includes communication w club coaches. Kids need to be kids and already have enough stress to deal with.
 
MarkM said:
How would you be able to commit early if you cannot communicate with the staff? There always seems to be a loophole, but I can't figure it out with this rule change. I also think that would garner the unwelcome attention of the NCAA if a kid committed early.
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One such way would be at a camp... I haven’t read into the new rule specifics, but currently for instance prior to sept 1 junior year players can not communicate directly with coaches at places such as showcases without there being a pre-existing connection, for instance, having met previously at a camp, and even then conversations are usually kept incredibly brief and mostly to greetings and how are you’s.

I would imagine the new rule would be a huge boost to camp numbers
 
Playmaker38 said:
One such way would be at a camp... I haven’t read into the new rule specifics, but currently for instance prior to sept 1 junior year players can not communicate directly with coaches at places such as showcases without there being a pre-existing connection, for instance, having met previously at a camp, and even then conversations are usually kept incredibly brief and mostly to greetings and how are you’s.

I would imagine the new rule would be a huge boost to camp numbers
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The NCAA changed the rule last year to preclude recruiting discussions from occurring at camps.
 
MarkM said:
The NCAA changed the rule last year to preclude recruiting discussions from occurring at camps.
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camp+ ask kid to come through campus on an unofficial visit = offer?

Camp+ recruit through club coach + ask club coach to have parent call at a specific day and specific time = offer?

Just spitballing. I know Colorado just picked up a 2022 from Blues so there must be some way around the whole thing for a freshman to commit
 
Playmaker38 said:
camp+ ask kid to come through campus on an unofficial visit = offer?

Camp+ recruit through club coach + ask club coach to have parent call at a specific day and specific time = offer?

Just spitballing. I know Colorado just picked up a 2022 from Blues so there must be some way around the whole thing for a freshman to commit
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The rule won’t be in place until April, so kids can commit now. Parents won’t be able to call. That’s what the new rule prevents.

Can’t talk to kids on unofficial visits anymore. That was a rule put in place last year.
 
gkrent said:
What about discussions through third parties?
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Maybe, but that’s getting more and more questionable. If a club coach is just forwarding emails, that doesn’t seem to be following the rule.

I just want to see the first kid commit early after the announcement of the rule. What are they going to say? The coach didn’t contact me and I didn’t contact the coach, but some how we struck a deal? If I’m a coach or a player, I wouldn’t want to risk that.

There could be some commits kept quiet, but verbal commits don’t mean much unless they are public.
 
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