Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

dad4 said:
Herd immunity depends on the number of contacts each person has. It is not a fixed percentage.

If you want to wear masks and have soccer games, you're probably fine.

If you want to open all the bars and hold a bunga bunga party at the convention center, expect an outbreak.
Click to expand...

nice try......how about not encouraging mass protests and looting from the media. lets not get this fking twisted on where the second outbreak came from.
 
The Outlaw said:
When was that a requirement for you to go running to Dominic? He gave his opinion and I'm offended you called him "clueless".

I may have to report you.
Click to expand...
7 day ban bro was shameful and i'm 100% disappointed in you Outlaw. You set a bad example to the rest of us. Now behave and dont take the bait. BTW, Did Dom say how long for the next f up?
 
Having worked in healthcare for 20 years I can tell you that August and September are always slow in terms of respiratory illnesses like the flu. Calm before the storm.

Once everything opens up and the weather cools this thing will come back worse than before. Even if schools open many will shut down again.

I am hopeful but doubtful that things can go back to normal before next summer. Soccer practice and games outdoors may not spread covid but kids sitting indoor in schools will. A kid getting Covid from school will bring it to practice and will make the whole team quarantine.
 
Ellejustus said:
7 day ban bro was shameful and i'm 100% disappointed in you Outlaw. You set a bad example to the rest of us. Now behave and dont take the bait. BTW, Did Dom say how long for the next f up?
Click to expand...

What f up? I said what I said and I meant it. Some people here can dish it out and that's it. I have no respect for them.

And you've only avoided a ban because nobody has reported you.
 
The Outlaw said:
What f up? I said what I said and I meant it. Some people here can dish it out and that's it. I have no respect for them.

And you've only avoided a ban because nobody has reported you.
Click to expand...
Dom is watching and does his own policing. This is his full time job. You also got a big warning and then the 7 days. Third infraction ban? Is their a life time ban?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Vta
Mosafie said:
Once everything opens up and the weather cools this thing will come back worse than before.
Click to expand...
Not necessarily worse. If infected individuals maintain immunity and we stay at current levels of "openness", we should only see a bump associated with the more favorable conditions for virus transmission due to the change in season. If immunity doesn't "stick" through the fall, yeah, it could end up being worse.
 
Grace T. said:
Or if they require it before you play contact sports, go back to school, go back to work....or regularly come into contac with people like grocery workers or sailors about to get on a boat.
Click to expand...
I guess all those adults playing pick-up games for the past 5 month didn't get the memo....
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Not necessarily worse. If infected individuals maintain immunity and we stay at current levels of "openness", we should only see a bump associated with the more favorable conditions for virus transmission due to the change in season. If immunity doesn't "stick" through the fall, yeah, it could end up being worse.
Click to expand...


That's not how it works. The only reason cases are falling now is because basically everything indoors was closed on July 13. It takes 3 to 4 weeks to see drop in cases which is what we are seeing now.

We still have a delay in testing result and very poor contract tracing ( less than 40%). So any reopening will lead to increase cases in 3 to 4 weeks and cause another closure.

Cases are not falling because of any herd immunity. We are not even close to that.
 
Mosafie said:
That's not how it works. The only reason cases are falling now is because basically everything indoors was closed on July 13. It takes 3 to 4 weeks to see drop in cases which is what we are seeing now.

We still have a delay in testing result and very poor contract tracing ( less than 40%). So any reopening will lead to increase cases in 3 to 4 weeks and cause another closure.

Cases are not falling because of any herd immunity. We are not even close to that.
Click to expand...

FL TX and AZ experienced peaks and fell at roughly the same time as SoCal despite not "everything indoors" being shut down.

Testing and trace is dead if you aren't going to test the asymptomatics like the CDC now suggests. Otherwise you are left with a 14 day quarantine for anyone that comes into contact and people aren't going to do that.

It's not herd immunity...the prisons and now the new HK study have shown there's no such thing. After 20% though everywhere threshold has occurred things begin to slow down. It's a soft barrier that reduces cases to a more manageable place.

And yes we see now from Italy, Spain, the Neatherlands and Germany that any reopening before you get to that 20% will cause an acceleration. The decision we have to make now is, if we will be dealing with this for years, what we do about it. But if the HK study is right lockdown until vaccine isn't an option and neither is just let everyone get it and get herd immunity.
 
Mosafie said:
That's not how it works. The only reason cases are falling now is because basically everything indoors was closed on July 13. It takes 3 to 4 weeks to see drop in cases which is what we are seeing now.

We still have a delay in testing result and very poor contract tracing ( less than 40%). So any reopening will lead to increase cases in 3 to 4 weeks and cause another closure.

Cases are not falling because of any herd immunity. We are not even close to that.
Click to expand...
Did you read the part where I stated, "If infected individuals maintain immunity and we stay at current levels of "openness"?

Also, this is a good read on herd immunity.
www.nytimes.com

What if ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Closer Than Scientists Thought? (Published 2020)

In what may be the world’s most important math puzzle, researchers are trying to figure out how many people in a community must be immune before the coronavirus fades.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
Grace T. said:
FL TX and AZ experienced peaks and fell at roughly the same time as SoCal despite not "everything indoors" being shut down.

Testing and trace is dead if you aren't going to test the asymptomatics like the CDC now suggests. Otherwise you are left with a 14 day quarantine for anyone that comes into contact and people aren't going to do that.

It's not herd immunity...the prisons and now the new HK study have shown there's no such thing. After 20% though everywhere threshold has occurred things begin to slow down. It's a soft barrier that reduces cases to a more manageable place.

And yes we see now from Italy, Spain, the Neatherlands and Germany that any reopening before you get to that 20% will cause an acceleration. The decision we have to make now is, if we will be dealing with this for years, what we do about it. But if the HK study is right lockdown until vaccine isn't an option and neither is just let everyone get it and get herd immunity.
Click to expand...

FL and AZ both rushed up to and past 2.7% confirmed infections. (~27% infected) That's well over your 20% line.

San Diego is in decline with 1.1%. (~11% infected.) That's far under your 20% line. Similar story in WA, OR, NM, CO, SF.

Seems closing bars and wearing masks may have had an impact. It isn't always 20%. Places with good masks and distance are hitting a barrier at about 10%. Places without those habits are hitting a barrier at about 25-30%.
 
The Outlaw said:
The orange curtain? While you're busy shaking, Chicken Little, why don't you ask yourself why Obama bought a $12M mansion on an island, where the highest point of the city is 310' above sea level, if global warming isn't being built up for an agenda? Nobody is asking for a media blackout on the virus or anything else. We just long for the days when news was reported instead of opinions.
Click to expand...
Stay on topic please! Dominic's going to kick you out of here. Going back to mute now!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top