Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

JumboJack said:
I dunno.... New Jersey was a giant petri dish of Covid a few months ago and now they are having soccer tournaments.
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BIG ones..With D3 ,NAIA, and JC coaches onsite and the capability to stream to D1/D2. Amazing what $$ do to drive ingenuity and will to solve problems.
 
Everything just got scrambled again today. The CDC is recommending asymptomatics don't get tested except under certain conditions. One way this could be viewed is the CDC no longer regards asymptomatics as a primary problem (which is consistent with the recent data that they don't seem to spread it as much)....in which case screen for illness at school and sports but let them play/learn. Another thing is that maybe the CDC is just throwing it's hands up given the testing lags and saying the virus is now too ubiquitous (in which case test and trace is totally dead). It's also going to be interesting to see how this plays out in professional sports (with their proactive testing) and schools (for example VC is requiring constant testing of staff and students that return under the waiver program). A more nefarious explanation is that it will just raise the positivity rate (which means that's no longer a useful matrix) to encourage the panic to last longer.

But, with one move the CDC has upended the table and how this plays out for pro sports, youth sports and schools is yet to be determined.
 
Grace T. said:
Everything just got scrambled again today. The CDC is recommending asymptomatics don't get tested except under certain conditions. One way this could be viewed is the CDC no longer regards asymptomatics as a primary problem (which is consistent with the recent data that they don't seem to spread it as much)....in which case screen for illness at school and sports but let them play/learn. Another thing is that maybe the CDC is just throwing it's hands up given the testing lags and saying the virus is now too ubiquitous (in which case test and trace is totally dead). It's also going to be interesting to see how this plays out in professional sports (with their proactive testing) and schools (for example VC is requiring constant testing of staff and students that return under the waiver program). A more nefarious explanation is that it will just raise the positivity rate (which means that's no longer a useful matrix) to encourage the panic to last longer.

But, with one move the CDC has upended the table and how this plays out for pro sports, youth sports and schools is yet to be determined.
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Maybe I'm missing something....if I'm asymptomatic, isn't this means I don't know if I'm sick and I don't have any symptoms? Then why would I get tested?
 
JumboJack said:
Because you were exposed to someone that was positive. It's happened to a few people at my work.
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Or if they require it before you play contact sports, go back to school, go back to work....or regularly come into contac with people like grocery workers or sailors about to get on a boat.
 
Desert Hound said:
This.

CDC assumes 10x symptomatic cases are asymptomatic. AZ has had roughly 200k cases. So with asymptomatics that puts it in the 2 million range. We might be at that low threshold of herd immunity...ie enough people have had it, where now the disease doesnt spread as far.
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Herd immunity depends on the number of contacts each person has. It is not a fixed percentage.

If you want to wear masks and have soccer games, you're probably fine.

If you want to open all the bars and hold a bunga bunga party at the convention center, expect an outbreak.
 
dad4 said:
Herd immunity depends on the number of contacts each person has. It is not a fixed percentage.

If you want to wear masks and have soccer games, you're probably fine.

If you want to open all the bars and hold a bunga bunga party at the convention center, expect an outbreak.
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The entire concept of herd immunity is now in doubt with the new study on the Hong Kong reinfection (see bad news thread). If it holds, those thinking that we'll somehow get to herd immunity and this disappears are woefully mistake. Also the people who think a vaccine will return us to normal because a vaccine would work like the flu vaccine (it means COVID is around for many years as a threat at least until vaccines can be boosted, treatments improved, and the virus mutates to something more benign). If the Hong Kong study bears out, it means learning to live with the thing is our only option.
 
happy9 said:
I've stated it on a couple of occasions now, there is enough precedence established by other states that I am comfortable allowing my kids to play
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Yes, this is where I am now. Take the appropriate precautions and let them play - locally at least. I'm still not completely comfortable traveling as a team for tournaments. It's not the "soccer" contacts I am worried about. It's all the other mixing experienced during travel that would concern me.
 
dad4 said:
Herd immunity depends on the number of contacts each person has. It is not a fixed percentage.

If you want to wear masks and have soccer games, you're probably fine.

If you want to open all the bars and hold a bunga bunga party at the convention center, expect an outbreak.
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nice try......how about not encouraging mass protests and looting from the media. lets not get this fking twisted on where the second outbreak came from.
 
The Outlaw said:
When was that a requirement for you to go running to Dominic? He gave his opinion and I'm offended you called him "clueless".

I may have to report you.
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7 day ban bro was shameful and i'm 100% disappointed in you Outlaw. You set a bad example to the rest of us. Now behave and dont take the bait. BTW, Did Dom say how long for the next f up?
 
Having worked in healthcare for 20 years I can tell you that August and September are always slow in terms of respiratory illnesses like the flu. Calm before the storm.

Once everything opens up and the weather cools this thing will come back worse than before. Even if schools open many will shut down again.

I am hopeful but doubtful that things can go back to normal before next summer. Soccer practice and games outdoors may not spread covid but kids sitting indoor in schools will. A kid getting Covid from school will bring it to practice and will make the whole team quarantine.
 
Ellejustus said:
7 day ban bro was shameful and i'm 100% disappointed in you Outlaw. You set a bad example to the rest of us. Now behave and dont take the bait. BTW, Did Dom say how long for the next f up?
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What f up? I said what I said and I meant it. Some people here can dish it out and that's it. I have no respect for them.

And you've only avoided a ban because nobody has reported you.
 
The Outlaw said:
What f up? I said what I said and I meant it. Some people here can dish it out and that's it. I have no respect for them.

And you've only avoided a ban because nobody has reported you.
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Dom is watching and does his own policing. This is his full time job. You also got a big warning and then the 7 days. Third infraction ban? Is their a life time ban?
 
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