What is your School Doing so far regarding sports?

Eagle33 said:
I completely agree, but rather than looking at negatives, it makes sense to look at positives and actually start working on what needs to be done.
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Yes that's why I participated and referenced the challenges that have been brought up.

I even volunteer to help out with supplies and logistics in the mornings, if we all work together and pitch in it's doable but not easy and I don't think our school is going to be handle it without outside help.
 
chiefs said:
Has anyone thought it's teachers' civic duty to show up to work, like all other deemed essential service workers? Folks don't let them fool you.
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I know someone who is having options for his parents and it's not in Los Angeles. LA is unified with their decisions of no fall in class school. All online. Other districts let each local school principle decide. So my pals plan is to have the healthy teachers teach the healthy student in person ((outside and other innovative new ways)) and those teachers with high risk or just dont feel safe teach online. The same goes with parents and kids with high risk or just dont feel safe. If your AC tech guy is over weight and has diabetes, plus eats super bad and drinks & smokes, he needs to find a new career or work inside and become a dispatcher dude instead. Youth sports and really any profession works the same.
 
gkmom said:
Not every case has a fever. Fevers also come and go. And, asymptomatic and presymptomatic people can spread the virus. So that solution won't work
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Very interesting how you allow your kid to go to soccer practice when it's not allowed, but worry about schools.
 
Ellejustus said:
I know someone who is having options for his parents and it's not in Los Angeles. LA is unified with their decisions of no fall in class school. All online. Other districts let each local school principle decide. So my pals plan is to have the healthy teachers teach the healthy student in person ((outside and other innovative new ways)) and those teachers with high risk or just dont feel safe teach online. The same goes with parents and kids with high risk or just dont feel safe. If your AC tech guy is over weight and has diabetes, plus eats super bad and drinks & smokes, he needs to find a new career or work inside and become a dispatcher dude instead. Youth sports and really any profession works the same.
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My DD school just sent email that parents needs to send in their choice either to go 50/50 school/home or 100% online.
 
chiefs said:
Has anyone thought it's teachers' civic duty to show up to work, like all other deemed essential service workers? Folks don't let them fool you.
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That would be a good question to ask teacher's union, which by definition is a socialist organization.
 
Eagle33 said:
That would be a good question to ask teacher's union, which by definition is a socialist organization.
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That would be a good question. When they are negotiating contracts they are the most important people in the world.. indispensable, but now.. seems like they aren't and this all can be done remotely and with less people. Like many other things this Pandemic has exposed some truths as to what is "essential".
 
chiefs said:
Has anyone thought it's teachers' civic duty to show up to work, like all other deemed essential service workers? Folks don't let them fool you.
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Unfortunately public schools in California are operated in the best interests of the teachers, and not to the children, due to the incredible political power of California's teachers' unions. Like I said before the only one representing the kids are some noisy parents. This is not to say that there aren't still very dedicated teachers out there, but its selfish for teachers to expect to go to the grocery store, Starbucks and the doctors office and get full service yet not provide service to our children. Everyone else is expected to adapt, so should they.
 
watfly said:
Unfortunately public schools in California are operated in the best interests of the teachers, and not to the children, due to the incredible political power of California's teachers' unions. Like I said before the only one representing the kids are some noisy parents. This is not to say that there aren't still very dedicated teachers out there, but its selfish for teachers to expect to go to the grocery store, Starbucks and the doctors office and get full service yet not provide service to our children. Everyone else is expected to adapt, so should they.
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I told my buddy in LA about what one of the newbies here told me about how he can refuse service to anyone he deems fit and can charge accordingly. Price gauging is illegal in California. He said to let everyone on here if you need a plumber in LA to PM me. His prices are the same as they were before Corona and he would never take advantage of a customer because he can. That is short term thinking ha said and a business killer, if you have to compete with other competitors.
 
I feel like this is all about something else and were stuck in the middle. Parents, here is your future for a long long long long long time.
 
I’m not vilifying teachers but the union organization is borderline criminal. We have family in education and their school was willing and able to adapt this past spring to provide more in person instruction for their higher needs kids. Unions prevented it. Newsom floated the idea of starting school mid summer in order to get more in person time before the fall/winter flu season hit. Unions wouldn’t even let the discussion get off the ground. Maybe it was a terrible idea but in a global pandemic at least have the conversation on what’s best for the kids.

Funny story: a few years ago the state of California wanted all schools to move to a year round model. They had the data that showed kids retention was higher, academic progress was higher, it is a financially better model, kids in need have more consistent eyes on them...by every metric it’s a better model than the antiquated summers off model. Unions wouldn’t even discuss it. Non starter. Teachers want their summer. How dare you even think of mandating this change. Etc etc. .

about 3 years after that the educators union of another state did a study that showed a year round model is actually preferable by teachers and had a few other metrics that showed it was beneficial to teachers. Guess who came marching to the California dept of Ed demanding talks to move California to a state wide year round model?
My brother in law who works for cal dept of Ed said everyone was like eff you guys. It was never about the kids and the education process. It’s ALL about money and union interests at all times.

I get the need for unions but to have zero flexibility in contracts and discussions and game planning for meeting the needs of the kids is criminal.
 
Watch what you say here unless you want to be a free thinker. I want more adoptions and more choices for the kids when it comes to education. I have always said that. Teachers shaped me in many good ways and some not so good. Its my job to use my little brain and figure out what suits me the best. I want all good teachers to have a job just as much as I want all good cops to have a job. I want all good teachers and cops taken care of and also the grocery store clerk and the ac tech dude. Cops have to risk their life every day and risk catching corona. Let's all come together and work on improvements.
 
gkmom said:
I'm actually not having my kid go to practice right now, but thanks for the judgement
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I am guessing because Cal shut down sports is the reason vs suddenly you are worried your kid may get sick.

From the CDC website.

Quote: "For children (0-17 years), cumulative COVID-19 hospitalization rates are much lower than cumulative influenza hospitalization rates at comparable time points* during recent influenza seasons."
 
Here’s an idea. Keep school virtual but then open up the school in the afternoon for kids
watfly said:
Unfortunately public schools in California are operated in the best interests of the teachers, and not to the children, due to the incredible political power of California's teachers' unions. Like I said before the only one representing the kids are some noisy parents. This is not to say that there aren't still very dedicated teachers out there, but its selfish for teachers to expect to go to the grocery store, Starbucks and the doctors office and get full service yet not provide service to our children. Everyone else is expected to adapt, so should they.
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Not all teachers want to teach remotely.
By the way, it’s not in the best interest of the teachers. They have to deal with kids with learning disabilities with very little help from the state and from the parents. So many entitled parents that always blame the teachers and not their own kids.
You do realize that parents now recognize how difficult it is to teach their own kids with all this zoom training going on

To me the answer is to isolate those teachers that have health issues or at risk and they can take a small pay cut. Use that money to hire new teachers or substitute teachers. Most teachers do want to go back to work. My daughter’s soccer team has 7 teachers and they all want to go back to work in a classroom.
 
Eagle33 said:
Easy solution - take the temperature of every kid before school.
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Doesnt work if a child was given tylenol or motrin to reduce fever before school.

What happens if a child in line shows up with a fever. What do you do with the 30 kids exposed while waiting line with the sick kid.

It's a logistic nightmare. The bottom line there is no way to stop the virus spread unless the community come together and lower the total number if cases as they have in other countries .

Get the numbers down and people wont be afraid to teach, go to school, go out to eat, and live their normally. At this point it's out of control.
 
Kante said:
www.nytimes.com

A Record 5.4 Million Americans Have Lost Health Insurance, Study Finds (Published 2020)

California’s governor announced a sweeping rollback of the state’s reopening and Los Angeles and San Diego school districts will be online-only in the fall. Dr. Anthony Fauci returned to the White House.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Hong kong is controlled by WHO again? WHO is the King dude? King Kong? BTW, I kneel to only one King and I did kneel on one knee to ask my girl friend to be my wife and she said "Oui." Proposed on the Eiffel Tower so she had to say, "Oui Oui Oui" and we have two kids that I will die for so they have freedom. Let's see how the next 90 days plays it :)
 
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