What is your School Doing so far regarding sports?

socalkdg said:
Which is why home schooling is best for your family. But give parents some options as it isn't best for other families. I know about 10 teachers, about 6 want to go back, 4 don't. So guess who teaches at the school, and who remotely teaches. Give options to both the parents and the teachers.

My kid just finished high school health class at home in 4 weeks. Got an A. Not sure though how much she learned because she would be learning while watching tv. Hey, maybe she is a great multitasker. Having said that I'd prefer that she gets some actual class time in as well.
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I'm all for options. Unfortunately my school district announced today everything will be online. Even though I would have had to make a very tough choice for my own child, I feel so bad for those who would have definitely wanted their child at school for whatever reason. It's not a choice for them anymore.
 
Desert Hound said:
God? Nope. But I am certainly a good judge of reading data and seeing who is at risk.

And positive cases have gone up rapidly and yet we are not seeing the corresponding spike in deaths that we say early on.

The median age of those dying is still around 80. So we know who is at risk and who isn't.

We know that if you are under 17 your risk is well under the flu. Up until 55 or so you are slightly elevated risk vs the flu. 80 plus AND with issues, you have a large risk factor.

A sane strategy would be to devise a plan built around known risk factors vs pretending everything needs to be shut down and the reporting implying everyone is at risk when that is not the case.
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Just messing with your typo.

I'd like to think something creative could be accomplished. Here's a thought:
- Split teachers into two groups - those who are lower risk and willing to teach in class, classroom teachers, and the rest, online teachers
- Split kids the same way based on parent desires, school kids and home kids
- Have the online teachers teach the home kids
- If there are too many "school kids" for the teachers and space, rotate the school kids in with the classroom teachers
- If possible, have some outside playground or all purpose room for physical activity to keep more kids at school longer and allow parents to work. Have parent volunteers help supervise if needed.
- If one group of teachers has more work that the other, divide the paperwork up to even it out.

Unfortunately, when you have the union in LA demanding 14 days without a positive test case in the county as a requirement for returning to the classroom, you can pretty much count on nothing creative being accomplished.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Just messing with your typo.

I'd like to think something creative could be accomplished. Here's a thought:
- Split teachers into two groups - those who are lower risk and willing to teach in class, classroom teachers, and the rest, online teachers
- Split kids the same way based on parent desires, school kids and home kids
- Have the online teachers teach the home kids
- If there are too many "school kids" for the teachers and space, rotate the school kids in with the classroom teachers
- If possible, have some outside playground or all purpose room for physical activity to keep more kids at school longer and allow parents to work. Have parent volunteers help supervise if needed.
- If one group of teachers has more work that the other, divide the paperwork up to even it out.

Unfortunately, when you have the union in LA demanding 14 days without a positive test case in the county as a requirement for returning to the classroom, you can pretty much count on nothing creative being accomplished.
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I like it. Just like everything else one size does not fit all.. My kids normally go to school 5-6hrs a day. Doing online courses they are "done" in less than 2hrs. Not sure how much they are really learning and both are extremely anxious to go back. They don't learn well online and are afraid they are getting behind. I think your basic outline provides a good compromise but it makes too much sense for school boards and teachers unions to agree to. Because.. after all.. its all about the children.. right?
 
Grace T. said:
The argument behind the article is basically "I'm scared and I don't want to go back until it's safe." Even assuming we can get to "safe" by having a vaccine that work and that gets quickly deployed, here's the flaw in the thinking: lot's of people are being asked to do things which aren't safe either-- health care workers, supermarket workers, meat packing plant workers, the police, your aircon guy, your plumber, your hair dresser. If it's not safe for a teacher to go back, it's not safe for them to go back either. The argument logically leads to a position that we need to shut down everything (except maybe workers who do COVID, food, water, electricity and the police) and not force workers who are scared to go back to work. Therefore, if you have plumbing that breaks down, you should be SOL, because it's selfish of you to ask a plumber to come to your house. This is essentially an argument for perpetual lockdown because of the maxim that used to be expressed "women and children first". Yes, children come before educators. They should come before we open gyms and bars. They come before your plumbing and airconditioning. They come before your protests. They should be at the head of the line, because they are the future and among the least vulnerable to the virus, but we are insisting on doing lasting, permanent and inequatable harm to them for the sake of older Americans. That's just a backwards way of thinking about it. If the schools aren't o.k., then none of it is....shut it all down and everyone use their best survival skills as the social order disintegrates around us after a year long lockdown....every person for themselves.
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Well at least supermarket workers have a plastic barrier between them and the single customer. Then they sanitize. Health care workers have PPE, or should by now, meat plant workers are also separated by plastic barriers, police usually only face one person at a time when stopping cars etc, etc. and can distance themselves. Step into my classroom, not a single window that opens, 32 desks with barely enough room to walk around, children packed in all day long, touching desks, pencil sharpeners, sinks, picking up things they drop on dirty floor, touching everything. I won't even discuss the bathrooms, but hey they can hold it all day long, right. Maybe we get parents to volunteer and clean the bathroom after the six hundred children at my school use the four bathrooms. It is a totally different environment, it is a petri dish of germs. Or let's go outside in the 100 degree heat and teach all day, or during the Santa Ana Winds. I can see that one now and hear the screams of joy as their papers are taken into the sky. Yep that would be great. No one is asking for a permanent lock down. We just want people to stop being stupid and selfish. We could have been there, we could have reopened, but hey, let's have a Memorial Day get together, let's have a July 4th bbq in the backyard with just a few friends and family, let's protest the beaches being closed by screaming and yelling without masks, let's have a covid party to see who gets it first. Let's go to the hairdresser's garage and get our hair done. Let's have our bible study group, let's have our choir practice, let's have a distance baby shower and pass the darling gifts around. Let's go to a bar, let's not wear a mask I want my freedom, well guess what, we had a chance and blew it. By the way, a look at history shows that children have survived far worse during war time and have come out stronger and more resilient. If this is the worse thing children ever experience then they are truly blessed. Better treatments for the virus are coming and maybe just maybe some form of vaccine.
 
Grace T. said:
Errr...some of our biggest outbreaks have been in meat packing plants, the military and prisons. So if that's the standard we shouldn't force people to work there, and the military should be furloughed. Not to mention health care workers, who despite the PPE have been catching the virus in record amounts. If the PPE doesn't keep the health worker safe, much less the plumber or aircon guy or contractor going into an infected person's house. Meanwhile, we know that transmission from children is less substantial than adult-adult or adult-child.
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Military is doing pretty well. They have been able to quarantine and trace very effectively. The reason health care workers are getting covid is because of the heavy viral load they are exposed to.
 
Grace T. said:
And all this on the same day a German study released in Saxony (which returned to school with full class sizes and local outbreaks in progress) says schools are not a major vector of transmission and kids may even serve as a break on the infection.
news.yahoo.com

German study finds no evidence coronavirus spreads in schools

Schools do not play a major role in spreading the coronavirus, according to the results of a German study released on Monday. The study, the largest carried out on schoolchildren and teachers in Germany, found traces of the virus in fewer than 1 per cent of teachers and children. Scientists from...
news.yahoo.com news.yahoo.com
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If children are not a major vector of transmission in the first place, how can they be a "break" in transmission just because they are in school for part of the day?
 
Copa9 said:
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Well at least supermarket workers have a plastic barrier between them and the single customer. Then they sanitize. Health care workers have PPE, or should by now, meat plant workers are also separated by plastic barriers, police usually only face one person at a time when stopping cars etc, etc. and can distance themselves. Step into my classroom, not a single window that opens, 32 desks with barely enough room to walk around, children packed in all day long, touching desks, pencil sharpeners, sinks, picking up things they drop on dirty floor, touching everything. I won't even discuss the bathrooms, but hey they can hold it all day long, right. Maybe we get parents to volunteer and clean the bathroom after the six hundred children at my school use the four bathrooms. It is a totally different environment, it is a petri dish of germs. Or let's go outside in the 100 degree heat and teach all day, or during the Santa Ana Winds. I can see that one now and hear the screams of joy as their papers are taken into the sky. Yep that would be great. No one is asking for a permanent lock down. We just want people to stop being stupid and selfish. We could have been there, we could have reopened, but hey, let's have a Memorial Day get together, let's have a July 4th bbq in the backyard with just a few friends and family, let's protest the beaches being closed by screaming and yelling without masks, let's have a covid party to see who gets it first. Let's go to the hairdresser's garage and get our hair done. Let's have our bible study group, let's have our choir practice, let's have a distance baby shower and pass the darling gifts around. Let's go to a bar, let's not wear a mask I want my freedom, well guess what, we had a chance and blew it. By the way, a look at history shows that children have survived far worse during war time and have come out stronger and more resilient. If this is the worse thing children ever experience then they are truly blessed. Better treatments for the virus are coming and maybe just maybe some form of vaccine.
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I was going to say hey you have a valid point about people being "stupid and selfish" but I realized then you left the BLM/Antifa protests off your list, which destroys your credibility. The fact that you mention one form of protest and ascribe bad behavior to them and you don't bring up the other just shows you are in it for the partisan game. It would otherwise have been a valid position to have, even if one disagreed with it.

The fact that one of your justification is that "children have survived far worse during war time" and you believe that children come out stronger and more relisent from wars is scary.

I make it a policy not to insult people on these boards, but that you are an educator is concerning to me, to say the least.

p.s. not my study but I had the same question.
 
Ellejustus said:
Attention California residents. Uhaul is overwhelmed with rental reservations. The sh*t hit the fan today and I'm not making this up.
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I know. I've been trying to get one. Also everything up in NorCal or in the Tahoe area is already booked at this point and the prices they are asking for are completely outrageous.
 
Grace T. said:
I know. I've been trying to get one. Also everything up in NorCal or in the Tahoe area is already booked at this point and the prices they are asking for are completely outrageous.
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I don't know how atypical this is. Back in 2004 when I was moving out-of-state, I had to drive from SoCal to Arizona to pick up a uhaul (early August). I think this happens in the summer sometimes... I couldn't find one anywhere in CA.
 
dean said:
I don't know how atypical this is. Back in 2004 when I was moving out-of-state, I had to drive from SoCal to Arizona to pick up a uhaul (early August). I think this happens in the summer sometimes... I couldn't find one anywhere in CA.
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Recently it has been common. Maybe not being able to get a Uhaul...but the rates.

For instance look up rates from Cal to TX. And then compare rates from TX to Cal.

There has been a large price differential for awhile.
 
Your working from home and make a good living. You can work anywhere you want because you work from home. If you work from home and watch two kids so mom can work too as a nurse, who the hell watches the kids? Dummy, Dumb and Dumb Dumb didnt think all this through. This is the family we are losing as I speak. Good families who obey the laws and pay their taxes. Bye bye nice family......
 
KJR said:
I will not be available to debate anonymous people on this thread, but I would implore all concerned parents to not get their COVID-19 data from youth soccer message boards.
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Fox? CNN? Teachers Union? Health pros? Uncle Chuck? WHO do you recommend? Please, help us and let's have a discussion, not a debate. NO ONE KNOWS SQUAT!!!!
 
dean said:
I don't know how atypical this is. Back in 2004 when I was moving out-of-state, I had to drive from SoCal to Arizona to pick up a uhaul (early August). I think this happens in the summer sometimes... I couldn't find one anywhere in CA.
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Just recently getting vehicle smogged, and the place of business also doubles up as a UHAUL rental service. They had ZERO vans on location, and said hundreds upon hundreds are looking for vans to get out of Calif (phone was ringing off the hook)....and that was a small store as well.. you can extrapolate from that....
 
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