Vaccine

watfly said:
Exactly. And a lot of the covid relief spending was because we shut down business. PPE was mostly a disaster which is what happens when the government hands out free money. The fraud was insane. And yes Trump deserves the blame for the PPE, he should have known better.
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Supporting businesses who were forced to shut down or employees out of work because you (gov) shut down their employers was the right thing to do. I agree that it was a free for all and fraud naturally followed.

Conversely for many other businesses covid was a boom period. They don't balance out, but it wasn't all negative.
 
whatithink said:
Supporting businesses who were forced to shut down or employees out of work because you (gov) shut down their employers was the right thing to do. I agree that it was a free for all and fraud naturally followed.

Conversely for many other businesses covid was a boom period. They don't balance out, but it wasn't all negative.
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I was at a seminar recently and one of the economists speaking claimed that the government gave out 3x the amount of money than was lost.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You gotta love that guy!
thehill.com

Fauci says he would not serve under Trump again

White House chief medical adviser Anthony Fauci on Sunday said if former President Trump wins the presidency again in 2024, Fauci will not return to serve Trump in the White House. Fauci, the chief…
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Out of curiosity which Fauci do you love?

Science Fauci: Masks are unnecessary, kids are safer in school, the pandemic is over, the crowded Correspondents Dinner is unsafe

Celebrity Fauci: Masks are critical, supports school closures, the pandemic is on going, the crowded Correspondents Dinner pre-parties are safe

Oh crap, my bad again, I forgot science changes...apparently even in the span of one day.

Fauci is a perfect example of why beaker sniffers should never be out of the lab. All that book smarts crowds out common sense. He never should have been the spokeshole for Covid. He doesn't have the savvy and is too narrow-minded to understand cause and effect of his public comments. He was a sucker for leading questions. I was actually a fan of his to start, but he went off the rails in part generated by his new found celebrity. He was qualified as an adviser but not as the figure head.

www.thecentersquare.com

Poll: Majority say time Fauci should be removed

(The Center Square) – The majority of surveyed Americans think Anthony Fauci should be removed from his role in helping lead the federal government’s COVID-19 response, a new poll released
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Brav520 said:
Is Fauci campaigning for Trump?
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Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me.
 
watfly said:
Out of curiosity which Fauci do you love?

Science Fauci: Masks are unnecessary, kids are safer in school, the pandemic is over, the crowded Correspondents Dinner is unsafe

Celebrity Fauci: Masks are critical, supports school closures, the pandemic is on going, the crowded Correspondents Dinner pre-parties are safe

Oh crap, my bad again, I forgot science changes...apparently even in the span of one day.

Fauci is a perfect example of why beaker sniffers should never be out of the lab. All that book smarts crowds out common sense. He never should have been the spokeshole for Covid. He doesn't have the savvy and is too narrow-minded to understand cause and effect of his public comments. He was a sucker for leading questions. I was actually a fan of his to start, but he went off the rails in part generated by his new found celebrity. He was qualified as an adviser but not as the figure head.

www.thecentersquare.com

Poll: Majority say time Fauci should be removed

(The Center Square) – The majority of surveyed Americans think Anthony Fauci should be removed from his role in helping lead the federal government’s COVID-19 response, a new poll released
www.thecentersquare.com www.thecentersquare.com


Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me.
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So, it’s Science Fauci when he agrees with watfly, but Celebrity Fauci when he diasgrees with you?
 
dad4 said:
So, it’s Science Fauci when he agrees with watfly, but Celebrity Fauci when he diasgrees with you?
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That was sarcasm chief. It's was all opinion and speculation, despite the fact that he holds himself out to be Science. Do you not believe that Fauci has had a lot of mixed messaging and had trouble with leading questions? I know you have a thing for the "science people", but c'mon let's look at this substantively and stop appealing to authority which is a logical fallacy.
 
watfly said:
That was sarcasm chief. It's was all opinion and speculation, despite the fact that he holds himself out to be Science. Do you not believe that Fauci has had a lot of mixed messaging and had trouble with leading questions? I know you have a thing for the "science people", but c'mon let's look at this substantively and stop appealing to authority which is a logical fallacy.
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No question that Fauci is more spokesman than scientist. That is the job.

I was just amused that you put masking where you did.

I see plenty of scientists who believe outdoor limits were misplaced. I don’t see many scientists who think it was an error to mask up. That complaint comes mainly from lay people who don’t like being told to wear a mask.
 
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Our Country and State are a big mess and we can all start blaming the so-called men in this country. I saw this meme and thought of four avatars. I picked Espola and Sunshine as the men of the 2020s. You guys earned this award big time...lol!!! I picked Dessert Hound and What-Happened as the two guys from the 70s. You guys are fair minded and independent and that's what I love about you both. I truly believe something happen to the men in this country. The teaching to be a man is all messed up and we need to educate the men big time and then help educate the young men so they know how to speak and treat women properly. I am calling on all the men to man up and become a real man, so we can save this country. Soccer can be saved later. America needs fixing and it's about time that ALL the men ((16 and older)) get off the couch, stop playing video games, stop looking at pornhub, stop watching the news on Tel A Vision, get in shape and start making things better for the Elderly, the kiddos and the women. The man fence sitter also needs to jump down now!!!! I see one cat on here that is slowly getting down off that fence and like that a lot :) It warms my heart to see men be men!!!!!!!! After we fix this shit, we can all rest and relax and enjoy the real Pentecost. Mark my words, we are heading into rough waters but those who choose wisely will have the time of their life later :)
 
dad4 said:
No question that Fauci is more spokesman than scientist. That is the job.

I was just amused that you put masking where you did.

I see plenty of scientists who believe outdoor limits were misplaced. I don’t see many scientists who think it was an error to mask up. That complaint comes mainly from lay people who don’t like being told to wear a mask.
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Again you miss the point entirely. It's all about credibility and his mixed messaging gives him zero credibility, not to mention he is unqualified on so many levels to be a spokesperson. I put them into groups to show the fallacy of the thinking that you can bifurcate his advice into two buckets. Instead of understanding that, you double down and complain are amused about me putting masks in the "negative" category. Think big picture.
 
The idiocy of the covid policies is going to haunt us for years.

Ex-Federal Reserve chair says US economy is heading toward period of stagflation for first time since 1970s: CEO of Goldman Sachs says risk of America falling into a recession 'is very, very high'
Ben Bernake warns that high unemployment and high prices could stay for years

Stagflation last happened in the US in the 70s, when OPEC pushed oil prices up

It led to years of high inflation and low economic growth that may happen again

Average prices are up by 8.3% from last year; Gas is averaging $4.48 a gallon

The CEO of Goldman Sachs and other banks warn that a recession is looming as the Federal Reserve struggles to rein in inflation without triggering a slowdown

By ADAM MANNO FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 12:26 EDT, 16 May 2022
 
Desert Hound said:
The idiocy of the covid policies is going to haunt us for years.

Ex-Federal Reserve chair says US economy is heading toward period of stagflation for first time since 1970s: CEO of Goldman Sachs says risk of America falling into a recession 'is very, very high'
Ben Bernake warns that high unemployment and high prices could stay for years

Stagflation last happened in the US in the 70s, when OPEC pushed oil prices up

It led to years of high inflation and low economic growth that may happen again

Average prices are up by 8.3% from last year; Gas is averaging $4.48 a gallon

The CEO of Goldman Sachs and other banks warn that a recession is looming as the Federal Reserve struggles to rein in inflation without triggering a slowdown

By ADAM MANNO FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 12:26 EDT, 16 May 2022
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It's nothing compared to what's going to happen in the 3rd world (thanks also to the generous sprinklings of the Ukraine war). Sri Lanka and Peru are the first dominos that are falling. It's going to take a good 5, more likely 10 years (from pandemic start) to work through all the various issues.

As to our own economy, recall I called stagflation over a year ago. There's no soft landing here. The chance for a soft landing evaporated with BBB. It's going to be ugly the only question is how much and if it's worse or better or the same as 2008. There are still quite a few variables in play but the China lockdowns and Ukraine war certainly is tipping it in the negative direction.
 
Grace T. said:
It's nothing compared to what's going to happen in the 3rd world (thanks also to the generous sprinklings of the Ukraine war). Sri Lanka and Peru are the first dominos that are falling. It's going to take a good 5, more likely 10 years (from pandemic start) to work through all the various issues.

As to our own economy, recall I called stagflation over a year ago. There's no soft landing here. The chance for a soft landing evaporated with BBB. It's going to be ugly the only question is how much and if it's worse or better or the same as 2008. There are still quite a few variables in play but the China lockdowns and Ukraine war certainly is tipping it in the negative direction.
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...and of course, there will be no accountability.
 
Florida just banned protests outside homes for the purpose of harrassing or disturbing the residents.

I have to give credit to DeSantis on this one. It’s a simple step towards civility. Protesting outside the government building is fine. Following the official home is not. It’s embarrassing that we have to spell it out, but that’s where we are.
 
"To sum up, public schools stopped being responsive to the needs of parents, refused to provide effective education (while still getting all its public funding to do so), in an effort to evade a risk that didn’t actually exist. And they wonder why 1.2 million or more students have disenrolled from public-school systems?"

"In New York City, the nation’s largest school district has lost some 50,000 students over the past two years. In Michigan, enrollment remains more than 50,000 below prepandemic levels from big cities to the rural Upper Peninsula.

In the suburbs of Orange County, Calif., where families have moved for generations to be part of the public school system, enrollment slid for the second consecutive year; statewide, more than a quarter-million public school students have dropped from California’s rolls since 2019.

And since school funding is tied to enrollment, cities that have lost many students — including Denver, Albuquerque and Oakland — are now considering combining classrooms, laying off teachers or shutting down entire schools.

All together, America’s public schools have lost at least 1.2 million students since 2020, according to a recently published national survey. State enrollment figures show no sign of a rebound to the previous national levels any time soon."

hotair.com

NYT: Say, where have all the public-school students gone?

Over one million students have evaporated from public school rolls over the last two years, the New
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