Vaccine

GoldenGate said:
Ha ha. I never said that masks are needed for everything going forward. Just that if your snowflake child jumps off a bridge, it isn't because they had to wear a mask at school, it is because you have spent the last two years feeling sorry for yourself instead of getting your shit together.
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so tuff! keeping it real, raw, and edgy.
 
met61 said:
...definitions, thus, words can be changed...and often have been changed in dictionaries for woke purposes and by governments to serve agendas...recently, the CDC changed the long-standing definition of vaccine & vaccination without clear Scientific basis.

...your lies require deceptive explanations through the fluidity of definitions and words...My Truth is clearly defined and stands on its own.
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Mirriam Webster is part of the conspiracy too?
 
whatithink said:
How about principled Women and Mothers, or don't they get a say? Your posts have a continual undercurrent of misogyny to me. It's all about men must do this or that etc. You don't talk about parents with respects to supporting or protecting our kids etc., just men/fathers. Pretty weird tbh, and if that's how you think, you need to grow up.
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We really need Ginni Thomas to get to the bottom of this. Maybe you should release the Kraken on transgender participation in women's sports.
 
GoldenGate said:
We really need Ginni Thomas to get to the bottom of this. Maybe you should release the Kraken on transgender participation in women's sports.
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sounds like you also need to consult a biologist. The sheep life is a good life for you. I can send over a brochure that we use for education purposes. It might prove helpful
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Not even close, just a thought. I do find it telling you are unable to see the gist of the idea.
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What a mysterious tale you tell. Why is it that science is only applicable if it supports certain societal agendas? It's either science or it isn't. And yes, science changes...so if there is proof of the evolution of sex in the human fossil record, please point it out. And please don't hide behind the social construct of gender - that's a completely different argument that consumes social warriors. I'm not interested in that argument, identify how you want, doesn't bother me.
 
whatithink said:
How about principled Women and Mothers, or don't they get a say? Your posts have a continual undercurrent of misogyny to me. It's all about men must do this or that etc. You don't talk about parents with respects to supporting or protecting our kids etc., just men/fathers. Pretty weird tbh, and if that's how you think, you need to grow up.
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...you have read-in motives to my statements that are not present and assigned intent to the opposite meaning of statements you felt I should have talked about...although, your assessment is flawed…I can understand it, given the current culture, toxic environment, and erosion of the Truth.

...my guess is I am considerably older than you...and as I continue to believe in and practice the traditional role of a man, there is a lot I can say...but I'll choose to sum it up with one question:

Do you believe in times of safety, emergency, and threat...the traditional principal of "Women and Children First" is misogyny?
 
met61 said:
Do you believe in times of safety, emergency, and threat...the traditional principal of "Women and Children First" is misogyny?
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Apparently the concept of "women and children first" is not even a consideration in the progressive agenda. The dogma takes priority. Other lost concepts are the "golden rule" and "sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me". Instead they appear to have added the inalienable right "to be offended" to the Bill of Rights.
 
what-happened said:
What a mysterious tale you tell. Why is it that science is only applicable if it supports certain societal agendas? It's either science or it isn't. And yes, science changes...so if there is proof of the evolution of sex in the human fossil record, please point it out. And please don't hide behind the social construct of gender - that's a completely different argument that consumes social warriors. I'm not interested in that argument, identify how you want, doesn't bother me.
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Let the commissioners decide not my gig. Well over my pay grade.
 
watfly said:
Apparently the concept of "women and children first" is not even a consideration in the progressive agenda. The dogma takes priority. Other lost concepts are the "golden rule" and "sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me". Instead they appear to have added the inalienable right "to be offended" to the Bill of Rights.
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You sound hurt and confused. Do you know anyone personally that adheres to the tenets you have attributed here?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You sound hurt and confused. Do you know anyone personally that adheres to the tenets you have attributed here?
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I do get confused when people attempt to deny reality. As far as the tenets go, I still teach these to my kids and most people I associate with try to adhere to them. Admittedly, though the "golden rule" is a tough one, but we all need goals.

I'm a big devotee of "Names will never hurt me". For example you calling me "hurt and confused" is a reflection on you, not me.
 
watfly said:
I do get confused when people attempt to deny reality. As far as the tenets go, I still teach these to my kids and most people I associate with try to adhere to them. Admittedly, though the "golden rule" is a tough one, but we all need goals.

I'm a big devotee of "Names will never hurt me". For example you calling me "hurt and confused" is a reflection on you, not me.
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Seems like people are disappointing you. Who in particular is letting you down? Or is that too personal of a question?
 
GoldenGate said:
Do you mean to say that transgender participation in women's sports isn't a big deal? If so, it sounds like we agree.
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I don't agree with you comparing these things because they have nothing in common. Don't assume because you know what that does.

While sports is definitely not as serious as school shootings and insurrections, it is very meaningful to a lot of girls who dedicate a lot of time to it. I'm fully in support of everyone's right to do as they wish until it infringes on others ability to do what they wish too. When there are conflicts, we have to work them out to see how best to deal with the conflict.

You're not listening and minimizing other people's concerns. If sports is really insignificant, ask transgenders not to participate in them. After all, they're insignificant so it shouldn't matter to transgenders too. If you're unwilling to do that than don't ask that of genetic females. Competitive sports is significant because people spend a lot of time and passion towards it.

I'm not sure what the answer is but I do know there are legitimate concerns to work through. Transphobia is not the issue. You can't throw out name calling "phobia" words at every turn to shut down any conversation.

No one wants to stop transgenders from enjoying their lives or living their best lives but conflicts exist and need to be resolved.

If transgenders want to play a sport to be with females, then why not just stick to rec sports where athletes are not dedicating significant amount of hours to compete? If they want to be in a competitive environment, it should align with the science chromosomes because female sports were created separately for genetic females due to scientific differences.
 
Emma said:
I don't agree with you comparing these things because they have nothing in common. Don't assume because you know what that does.

While sports is definitely not as serious as school shootings and insurrections, it is very meaningful to a lot of girls who dedicate a lot of time to it. I'm fully in support of everyone's right to do as they wish until it infringes on others ability to do what they wish too. When there are conflicts, we have to work them out to see how best to deal with the conflict.

You're not listening and minimizing other people's concerns. If sports is really insignificant, ask transgenders not to participate in them. After all, they're insignificant so it shouldn't matter to transgenders too. If you're unwilling to do that than don't ask that of genetic females. Competitive sports is significant because people spend a lot of time and passion towards it.

I'm not sure what the answer is but I do know there are legitimate concerns to work through. Transphobia is not the issue. You can't throw out name calling "phobia" words at every turn to shut down any conversation.

No one wants to stop transgenders from enjoying their lives or living their best lives but conflicts exist and need to be resolved.

If transgenders want to play a sport to be with females, then why not just stick to rec sports where athletes are not dedicating significant amount of hours to compete? If they want to be in a competitive environment, it should align with the science chromosomes because female sports were created separately for genetic females due to scientific differences.
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I am quite sure most caught in between, two-spirits, wish they were born fully one way or the other, but I may be wrong.
 
met61 said:
...you have read-in motives to my statements that are not present and assigned intent to the opposite meaning of statements you felt I should have talked about...although, your assessment is flawed…I can understand it, given the current culture, toxic environment, and erosion of the Truth.

...my guess is I am considerably older than you...and as I continue to believe in and practice the traditional role of a man, there is a lot I can say...but I'll choose to sum it up with one question:

Do you believe in times of safety, emergency, and threat...the traditional principal of "Women and Children First" is misogyny?
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I have no problem with women and children first. It's "traditional" as it's the future of the tribe.

I do think the premise of

met61 said:
...if not principled Men and Fathers, then who?
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is beyond dated as if to say there is nobody else, hence making any principled women & mothers redundant/useless, especially when you are talking about a societal "issue" where men have no more or less to say than women.

To the whole trans gender thing, oddly enough only this week my son was out helping a neighbor and came home and mention another neighbor, let's say Mike. I said, do you mean Mary, and he replied, no, it's Mike now as he identifies as a he. No big deal to him, didn't make any type of deal with it, it just is what it is. It seems to me, by this thread that it's the parents - us older folk - who seem to have an "issue" with it. The kids aren't bothered either way. We could learn from them.

As for the sports aspect, well the swimmer in Q clearly has a physical advantage because of maturing as a male. That doesn't strike me as particularly fair from a sporting perspective, but I'm ambivalent to it TBH. Its college sports, not life or death stuff. It's also rare. There are far more important things that deserve far more attention.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Let the commissioners decide not my gig. Well over my pay grade.
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wait wut? Can you tell the difference between a boy and a girl dog? Do you need a vet to do that? I wonder what type of doctor Canadian player Quinn goes to.. I mean, really? Human biology is rather straight forward. Human psychology, well, that's certainly a different ball game.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Seems like people are disappointing you. Who in particular is letting you down? Or is that too personal of a question?
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1) Public high school principals, teachers and staff
2) The USA men's 4x100 meter relay team (but only every 4 years)
3) People that drive in the passing lane
 
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