I just sat down from being at the beach all day. How's Nocal Outlaw? Look's like I wont have to wear a mask anymore after 3/11 and will try my luck at making a buck again. Stay safe. Make love bro, not war and hate.
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whatithink
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I see there are some new studies out which sow further doubt on the whole lab leak theory. Its still not ruled out, but seems much less likely.
Do three new studies add up to proof of COVID-19’s origin in a Wuhan animal market? | Science | AAAS
Do three new studies add up to proof of COVID-19’s origin in a Wuhan animal market? | Science | AAAS
What is your honest guess? I was told by a very smart Doctor that 100% it came from a lab. CDC knows for sure but we still can't get them to share the real numbers on the adverse effects from the jabs.
Soccer Bum 06
SILVER
San Diego Unified, the second largest district in the state, will continue enforcing its indoor mask mandate, according to school board president Richard Barrera.
California mask mandate for schools to end after March 11
Gov. Gavin Newsom and California officials said today that the state mask mandate for schools will end after March 11.calmatters.org
“San Diego County is still in the high-risk tier, even under the CDC’s new system,” Barrera said. “When we move into the moderate-risk tier, then we’ll reassess.”
So the kids in SDUSD go from taking orders from King Newsom to King Barrera and his school board cronies. Bought and paid for by the TEACHERS union. This union has got to go. They are bad for children and teachers should stop paying dues to this political organization. Those who fund it are responsible for its corruption.
Desert Hound
DA
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
None of the three are peer-reviewed, one is from China and
"Many of the researchers behind the new studies were also participants in a review published last summer that said the pandemic almost certainly originated with an animal, probably at a wildlife market."
Maybe you should change your name to idontthink.
Most of my pals all teach to earn a buck. If you put in 30+ years, you get a real nice retirement. It was a good gig back in the day when teachers taught students how to think on their own and critically think outside da box. It's become a cult in some ways today. One of my friends can;t share anything about what he truly believes and what he would like to teach his students. His boss roams the hall ways and listens for anyone teacher going against the play book. He say's he would get punished if he dare try to give a moo or two. Nope, you do as told or else. He has a few more years left and then retire in the sunset. These Unions are ruthless and actually do the what their told from their higher ups. King Barrera should at least consult with the parents. So sad for the kids.
If you read the fine print, the lead author is PRC resident and PRC funded. The papers are not peer reviewed. And their argument assumes two simultaneous animal to human jumps in the same market, but no jumps anywhere else in all of China.
Count me as unconvinced.
whatithink
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Yes, its not peer reviewed, as stated in para 3. The China one is questioned also, and there are other critiques of the conclusions in the article, not least that it needs to be validated via the peer review process.
My moniker is fine, but feel free to adopt the one you suggested. I take it you are in the last para category of peeps. Have fun with that.
Hüsker Dü
DA
Peer review is only important when you wish to dispute the findings.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Coocoo
whatithink
GOLD
Now that's just silly, as you well know.
EvilGoalie 21
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All the stuff on the pre-print servers is under review. Some submissions will past muster, other's won't. Those that do pass muster it will be like "fix this, this and this". That's how it is.
thanks for linking to the Pekar et al preprint. I had not seen it. It's largely a UCSD/Scripps and UCLA piece of work. And, IMO, a submission crackling with some interesting new phylogenetic computational approaches. Long and short of it is that with their analytical developments they can work backwards in genetic time and assess the probabilities of different types of initiating "rooting" events for the pandemic initiating in Wuhan. And the only one that really works given the Cov2 genomes that they feed into their analysis is two separate jumps into humans from animal resevoirs occurring in a short space of time. I can see some things they will likely be asked about on review but the core of it feels pretty solid.
How does it feed into the lab leak hypothesis? The answer is, of course,given the physical proximity of the Whuhan labs, any way you want it to. As I've said previously it's basically a historical/political question, not a scientific one. Two separate jumps = viruses brought into a market which start recombining into a nasty little cesspool that jumps two times? Versus, something brought out of a lab, accidentily or maybe not, mingling with an intermediate host and that's what leads to the conditions for two jumps? It's worth pointing out because this is as much insight as we msy get on the matter. Kind of like three guys meet up in a over priced bar to talk about campaign data and a Ukrainian "peace plan". What do we call it? Prove it versus disprove the negative.
Anyway, thing that got me off on this was that, in this thread, omicron was proposed as a jump from human to mice and back to human (two jumps), Nobody says boo. And then you post these links that basically say two jumps (and easier ones really and get shit canned for not thinking for yourself? Somebody is not thinking (or understanding WTF they are talking about) but it's not you.
Forcing people to take bat poison from a lab is insane and this is not fun for most of us who lost the last two years of their life. My best pal has blood clots and people I know have died from the jab, not Corona. Let that sink into your heart. You have supported this war crime and that's on you 100% now. People will have lasting side effects for the rest of their life and all you can say is, "have fun." Making kids get jabbed and wear a mask is pure evil. EVIL EVIL EVIL. Do you comprehend evil?
Math cheaters are the worse. Tricking people with fake numbers is evil and will be dealt with soon. No way anyone get's out of this BS. My pal is acting all nice to me now and thinks everything will go back to normal.......lol!!! Make sure to find a booster location to stay fully controlled.....lol!!
I think Joe and Hunter should give us the "Slur of the Union" Speech tonight. Espola and Huskers team will gives their vision for America tonight.
The Biden's will say tonight that we are psychologically unable to feel happy about how much they have made our country better the last year. I feel so loved by my neighbors. Were closer then ever and have nothing to divide us. It's pure bliss of love and compassion. What a place to be and what a time to be alive. Joe did say that this winter will be a winter of death and destruction. Pluto Rising is here too. 20 more days until we Spring ourselves to The Great Awakening.
GoldenGate
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It looks like it is back to the drawing board for conspiracy theorists. It turns out Dr. Fauci didn't fund a secret extermination plan to create a deadly (except when you're whining about wearing a mask and then it's a hoax) virus in a Chinese laboratory.
www.nytimes.com
New Research Points to Wuhan Market as Pandemic Origin (Published 2022)
Two new studies say the virus was present in animals at the Huanan seafood market in 2019.
GoldenGate
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I have a question. If you are going to disregard the only two actual studies that have looked into this, why are you clinging so hard to a conspiracy theory that was said on 4Chan by some anonymous whackadoo? Presumably that wasn't peer studied either. Or do you only care if something has the Qanon seal of approval?
Also, why do you even care? How do you reconcile your belief that Covid is essentially a hoax so therefore no one should wear masks or get vaccinated while, at the same time, claiming Dr. Fauci funded a Chinese lab to create a deadly virus as part of a secret worldwide extermination plan? Which is it? Is Covid deadly or not?
GoldenGate
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No, cuckoo is completely disregarding the two studies that have actually looked into the issue in favor of what some anonymous conspiracy theorist claimed on the dark web. Feel free to find any excuse to cling to your conspiracy theory for as long as you can. I can't wait to see what excuse you have to disregard the studies after they've been peer reviewed. Let me give you some options: (1) it's fake news; (2) Dr. Fauci secretly funded the peer review study to support the two studies that he also secretly funded to cover up that he also secretly funded creation of the deadly virus in a Wuhan lab; (3) just change the subject to "Biden is senile."