Desert Hound
DA
And yet if a charter does bad it goes away.
That doesn't happen with public schools.
Every time I see a charter open in a less than desirable area I think how lucky the kids are to finally have a better option.
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That doesn't happen with public schools.
Every time I see a charter open in a less than desirable area I think how lucky the kids are to finally have a better option.
I think they are underestimating the powder keg they are sitting on. If there are more pictures of adults partying at the Superbowl and kids need to go to LAUSD in masks the next day, I think they will be facing a full on parent rebellion. No wonder they are hiring all that extra security to enforce the mask requirements.
Desert Hound
DA
And then you see public school districts producing the following.Link about what, corrupt charter schools? For real? Took two seconds to find this:
New Report: Charter Fraud And Waste Worse Than We Thought
"We have concluded that the practice of allowing unauthorized schools to receive funds, which has been in effect since 2001, has become a magnet for grifters, consultants and charter entrepreneurs who see an easy way to cash in."www.forbes.com
It goes on and on and on....
REPORT: 77 percent of Baltimore high school students reading at elementary or kindergarten level
An anonymous teacher from Baltimore’s Patterson High School has come forward with crucial information to support the claim that fully 77 percent of students at the troubled institution have an elementary school – or lower – reading level.
thepostmillennial.com
And reading your article above it seems less the fault of charter schools and far more of how the government vetts prospective schools and how gov fails to do oversight.
Which is typical and which is why public schools in many areas underperform decade after decade.
starting To think this is a small but vocal minority that aren’t able to move on
I know Twitter isn’t an accurate representation of the public at large , but read the replies to Newsom tweet yesterday announcing the mask mandates are going away. There are certainly people who never want mask mandates to go away
What do vaccines do? For starters, they reduce your odds of getting covid by a factor of six.
That also reduces your odds of spreading covid by a factor of six. Slightly more, because a vaccinated person is also infectious for a shorter time.
So, no. The vaccine doesn't 'stop' transmission. It just reduces transmission by 90% or so.
Incidentally, a 90% reduction in transmission is the difference between "huge case spike" and "minor outbreaks here and there."
I think your numbers are wildly overestimated especially since we know the double vaxx simply isn’t that efficient in stopping omicron (remember the party in Neatherlands superspreader event was caused by a vaccinated individual in a room full of vaccinated people) and even with boosters the efficiency is declining with time. If it were 90% that many people would simply not have gotten ill at that event.
further highly vaxxed countries have all had omicron spikes..they were just less severe but hardly an outbreak here and there
but even assuming arguendo your 90%…you never answer why you care…the unvaxxed have made their decision and the vaccine is suppose to protect against serious illness. Who you protecting here? Just wanna avoid the bad cold?
@dad4 tries to manipulate numbers to defend his out of touch reality…he can not stand being wrong. Even when every vaccinated person he knew got Covid over winter break he still wants to blame it on the unvaccinated. Maybe the world is flat?
EvilGoalie 21
GOLD
vaxx appears to have held up great against omicron in NYC. for cases even. rate per 100K is cases vaxx/vaxx and cases novaxx/novaxx, ie correctly normalized to meaningfully compare the rates. https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-main.page
The 1:6 ratio is not an estimate. It's the vax to unvax ratio of positive tests per Capita.
You may not like it, but it's still true. Most covid cases are unvaccinated. And, as a result, most covid transmission is coming from unvaccinated people, too.
Why do I care? About 900,000 Americans have died of this. Another 2000 each day. That is who we could have been protecting, but decided not to.
What causes the vax peak to be earlier than unvax? I see it other places, too.
short of literal government force , how do you suggest we protect the unvaccinated from dying ?
The unvaccinated are not the only ones dying.
There are also covid deaths among vaccinated people with weakened immune systems or other health issues. Maybe 10% or so of deaths?
The health care libertarians here don't like to talk about that part.
that’s all true , but you didn’t really answer the question
so how do we protect those people in the 10% category ?
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
I'll take a thousand health care libertarians before I take one health care authoritarian.
At least we know what we are debating now. The relevant subject is the 10%.
and the relevant question is to what extent are we going to reorganize society to protect that 10%. Certainly things should be reorganized particularly in nursing homes to the extent they need to be protected and inconvenienced. But when you are talking kids being inconvenieced that’s a totally different story.
I have skin in the game on this for 3 generations and a god child in the 4th. For my parents I totally see it justified that they should get boosted and wear 95s and limit their social activities. For me it is reasonable even having had it to get vaxxed. For my 20 year old goddaughter she is not at risk and youth is too fleeting to restrict her life any further particularly with the authoritarian rules at some colleges. For my kids it is monstrous to insist they continue to sacrifice their childhood for the sake of my parents.
we don’t reorganize society for flu. We don’t do it for rsv where kids are vulnerable. We certainly shouldn’t for the glass staff 10%
How many do you think are Members of an activist group funded by the Newsome Re-Election fund?
i don’t know , but I saw a lot of replies angry at him for lifting the mandate
The vaccinated are only incentivized to take unreported ‘at home’ tests to get out of isolation.
Next obvious question?
Um, what are you trying to convey?
The reporting bias of those without risk or symptoms in the absence of mandatory testing?
Or.. that a sliver of the population is more likely to get infected by a virus novel to their immune system sans vaccination or prior infection.
Both should appear obvious to all adults, if not… well, Darwin’s theory will work things out in the end.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Just curious. Did one post a bunch of Reddit links about dying from COVID and another ask for a link that supports his position while another tut tutted about how in his neck of the woods everything is great and no one minds wearing masks?