Vaccine

It has been demonstrated that vaccines are effective at reducing the rate of community spread and probably are also effective at reducing the total number of cases (I will leave the statistical work on that point to someone more inclined than I am for that work).
Well, I hope at some point someone comes up with vaccine. That way you can stop taking those antibody assistance injections..
 
now you are babbling...

No, I'm not. I only use "readers" in unusual cases, such as a math book with small print superscripts, such as this formula for Riemann's zeta function --

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And even more to the point, when reading things like that on my laptop I can zoom in (unpinch or Ctrl+) so the little s superscripts are quite plain.

When I stated that you had made errors in your post, you didxn't attempt to defend them, you just made an ad hominem attack. Do we have to go throough all that again?

You are free to rant to any length on any topic you wish, but don't try to pretend that it is the truth.
 
Well, I hope at some point someone comes up with vaccine. That way you can stop taking those antibody assistance injections..

"Antibody assistance injections"? That is what every vaccine does.

What I would like to see is covidicide drug, working like the quinine derivatives do against malaria. The new Pfizer pill shows some promise in that direction.
 
Here's a definition of ineffective. NHL players and staff are 100% vaccinated (actually only 1 player in the league is unvaccinated) and there are currently over 100 players that have tested into Covid protocols. The season has now been paused until at least Saturday.
 
Here's a definition of ineffective. NHL players and staff are 100% vaccinated (actually only 1 player in the league is unvaccinated) and there are currently over 100 players that have tested into Covid protocols. The season has now been paused until at least Saturday.

How many would have been infected if none were vaccinated? Without that number, you can't judge its effectiveness.
 
How many would have been infected if none were vaccinated? Without that number, you can't judge its effectiveness.
What they are finding is that vs Delta the vaccines degraded significantly. Ie the hope that boosters would save the day. We have been watching the fully vaxxed catch Delta with increasing frequency.

With omicron, they do little to stop the spread. In other words outside of still have protection vs getting seriously ill, they don't stop the vaxxed from getting or spreading the virus very well.

In a sense the vaxx seems like a flu vax. Works (if they pick the right one) against the current variant. Not terribly useful for the next variant.

The current vaccines were designed to fight the early variants.. not the latest iterations
 
No, I'm not. I only use "readers" in unusual cases, such as a math book with small print superscripts, such as this formula for Riemann's zeta function --

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And even more to the point, when reading things like that on my laptop I can zoom in (unpinch or Ctrl+) so the little s superscripts are quite plain.

When I stated that you had made errors in your post, you didxn't attempt to defend them, you just made an ad hominem attack. Do we have to go throough all that again?

You are free to rant to any length on any topic you wish, but don't try to pretend that it is the truth.
what were the errors?
 
"Antibody assistance injections"? That is what every vaccine does.

What I would like to see is covidicide drug, working like the quinine derivatives do against malaria. The new Pfizer pill shows some promise in that direction.
I'm using this post tomorrow morning.

Yea, pfizer - using words like likely, it may, promising data. Personally, I hope it works. Oral therapuetics are easier to get into people as opposed to vaccines. Doesn't make sense to me but that's just the way it goes. Besides, pharma loves pills, more $$$.
 
I'm using this post tomorrow morning.

Yea, pfizer - using words like likely, it may, promising data. Personally, I hope it works. Oral therapuetics are easier to get into people as opposed to vaccines. Doesn't make sense to me but that's just the way it goes. Besides, pharma loves pills, more $$$.

The mechanism they said they are using (causing errors in the viral DNA replication process so that the resulting particles are non-viable) looks interesting. I wonder if there are undesirable side effects, since it seems like such a powerful process.

If you are going to reduce every discussion to $$$, there is no hope for a reasonable discussion with you.
 
See underlined.

nahh, it's the truth. They've completely lost control of the narrative and are no longer a respected source of info for covid.. Their credibility has taken a hit. As a casual consumer of info, you are likely well served by the CDC.

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I dunno, the CDC is kinda dodgy these days with their data. Can't seem to make up their mind on what to release, what to hide, what to do additional research on. One day this, one day that.
 
Interesting statement. Why would I need someone to frame it that way for me? Unlike you, or at least the perception of you, I am a skeptic when it comes to messaging from our government entities. I prefer conduct my own analysis and seek out other experts and compare. Don't you remember 2 weeks? How about 4th of July cookouts. I could go on and on.
Skeptic who does their own analysis?

Where is the analysis? All I see are conclusions which you could easily have cribbed from Breitbart. Not a number in sight.

That‘s a sheep, not a skeptic.
 
Interesting statement. Why would I need someone to frame it that way for me? Unlike you, or at least the perception of you, I am a skeptic when it comes to messaging from our government entities. I prefer conduct my own analysis and seek out other experts and compare. Don't you remember 2 weeks? How about 4th of July cookouts. I could go on and on.
So you “seek out other experts”? Where do you get your information from?
 
It has also been demonstrated to not stop community spread. Is the benchmark reduction of total cases or minimizing adverse disease outcomes? Now you are sounding like the CDC. Can't we just say the vaccines suck and only those who are vulnerable should consider taking a vaccine?
Yes!
 
Victory for San Diego kids. Hopefully this paves the way for all California kids.

Old man Espola wants those kids indoors and with a mask on, Omicron is here to take over Delta!!!
 
To normal Norm and Frank the Fence Sitter:

All the tweets of the recent Democrat politicians getting COVID have this in common and they want me to do as they say and be just like them. President of The United States of America is going to tell me and my family that were going to die this Winter unless we obey. I will say 100% and double say with absolute certainty and with 100% conviction that we never ever will we trust these desperados ever again. Talk about going from two weeks to stop the curve and free lotto tickets to tonight's rebuke and prediction that anyone not vaccinated will die this Winter. I now see this as a threat. White House Chief liar backed it up saying the "truth is the truth." Wow, predictions are now the truth. Thanks for adding excitement to my Christmas Eve Family dinner with all the outlaws and that all are vaxed but the Fearsome Four. My family is the only group that will not be vaxed. I have a feeling Joey "Bribes" Biden will tell my jabed side of the family to not allow us over for Tamales. I will say right now if we are blocked entry into my sister in laws crib, we will drive down to a homeless shelter in East LA and give them all their presents and the food. The Great Awaking is also the Great Separation. Most of the people I know WHO already obeyed and got three shits will say this is wrong to treat crush and his family as complete outcast like they did in Germany but will most likely turn the other way as to not see or feel our true pain of not being able to buy or sell or eat anymore un;ess were like ALL of you. You see, ALL of you are ALL the same. 5 Gee is being rolled out on 1/5/2022. Only two types of people now.

Top Dems all agree with how you show true solidary to their side. It's a jab of honor!!! In order to be on their team, you must obey.
"I got 1st shot, I got 2nd shot, I got booster and I just got COVID. Go Team Jab!!!" You now must give praises how effective the vaccines have been at making sure you come down with Covid & Delta and Omicron. Either one. This is the new way of them explaining how this all works and how to stay on their team.

I absolutely love science. Espola, GG and The Husler and the rest of you will go together the rest of the way. I will miss you all. The pull to separate is real and so powerful, like magnet of separation.


Boston Implementing Proof of Vaccination Requirement for Restaurants, Other Indoor Venues
All city employees will also be required to be vaccinated on the same timeline

BTW, Mayor Wu from Boston is now requring vax or no buy or selling in the market place.

"This is just one step in an aggressive approach the city has already been working hard to implement," Wu said. "It is absolutely a necessary one. We're ready to take this step forward to protect our residents."

I will just say this. Wait for the second step and the third. The third will be a kick with a boot telling the non-vax never to come back to their Democratic City. When I was into baseball and had season tickets to the Angels, the most annoying fans were those folks from New York and Boston. You guys are losing your cities as I write this. I'm sure LA is next and those fans were also annoying. All of you would roll into OC and take over our stadium as if it was your stadium. No respect, 2002 was still one of the most fun times ever for me talking smack at all the games. I loved watching you lose and now look at your cities. Yukkie!!! Thank God my son and DD turn down some deals to go to college in those cities.
 
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