Vaccine

Desert Hound said:
Somebody somewhere on here has been talking about natural immunity.

BBC reports that children might be more susceptible to common illnesses this winter because of an “immunity debt” built up during lockdowns. Dr. Rob Orford, the Welsh government’s chief scientific advisor for health, spoke to the Welsh parliament’s health committee. In addition to telling them there is a great deal of uncertainty about what could happen next with the pandemic, he warned that the re-emergence of respiratory diseases suppressed during the lockdown could flood the healthcare system. According to BBC:

He [Orford] told the committee: “We may have stacked up some immunity debt in the system where children have not been mixing with friends, and so they may be more susceptible to some of the illnesses we traditionally see.”

Members of the Senedd (MSs) [Welsh Parliament] were told children were much less likely to get seriously ill with coronavirus or to develop long Covid.

But Fliss Bennee, co-chair of the government’s technical advisory cell, said children had suffered “unproportionally” in the pandemic by losing out on education and play.

She added: “We are also aware that there is a harm that builds up from not being able to have social interaction that leads to the development of barrier immunity from exposure to other infection diseases.”

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You may be old enough to remember two California doctors opposing lockdowns because of the immunity “debt” that can affect everyone due to how our immune system develops and maintains itself. At the end of April 2020, Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi held a press conference to call for an end to lockdowns. They discussed the damage reduced activity can have on the function of the immune system. As I wrote at the time:
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This is a thing..happening now across this country, and well before winter. An intended consequence of isolating children for so long. Immune systems are having to re-learn in a sense how to defend against these rather common and cyclical viruses. Curiosly, hand, foot and mouth disease is on the uptick in the Phoenix area. It's signficantly contagious and can/will spread asymptomatically.

Fun times for urgent cares and ERs across the valley, as well as private pediatric practices. Begs the conversation on what is the priority for pediatric care right now, given the numbers?
 
Desert Hound said:
Somebody somewhere on here has been talking about natural immunity.

BBC reports that children might be more susceptible to common illnesses this winter because of an “immunity debt” built up during lockdowns. Dr. Rob Orford, the Welsh government’s chief scientific advisor for health, spoke to the Welsh parliament’s health committee. In addition to telling them there is a great deal of uncertainty about what could happen next with the pandemic, he warned that the re-emergence of respiratory diseases suppressed during the lockdown could flood the healthcare system. According to BBC:

He [Orford] told the committee: “We may have stacked up some immunity debt in the system where children have not been mixing with friends, and so they may be more susceptible to some of the illnesses we traditionally see.”

Members of the Senedd (MSs) [Welsh Parliament] were told children were much less likely to get seriously ill with coronavirus or to develop long Covid.

But Fliss Bennee, co-chair of the government’s technical advisory cell, said children had suffered “unproportionally” in the pandemic by losing out on education and play.

She added: “We are also aware that there is a harm that builds up from not being able to have social interaction that leads to the development of barrier immunity from exposure to other infection diseases.”

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You may be old enough to remember two California doctors opposing lockdowns because of the immunity “debt” that can affect everyone due to how our immune system develops and maintains itself. At the end of April 2020, Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi held a press conference to call for an end to lockdowns. They discussed the damage reduced activity can have on the function of the immune system. As I wrote at the time:
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Shocking isn't it?? Funny how the Anti-immune system movement is so set on saving the world that they'll do and advocate for policy outcomes like immunity debt. It is the anatomy of the State.
 
what-happened said:
You should have rolled with J&J. Nothing fancy, old school, and reliable. The new sexy tech may start to lose it's shininess.
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I don't now about that. I got a great deal on the vaxx when I went down to Nogales. It all seemed legit. By the looks of it they were manufacturing it right there in the alley. So I got it fresh so to speak.
 
Reason‘s Jacob Sullum calls out the Houston Chronicle for citing weak evidence in support of mask mandates.

The latest guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends that schools require all students to wear masks, regardless of their age or vaccination status. But by and large, the studies that the CDC cited to support that recommendation did not even compare schools with mandates to schools without them, let alone “take into account all of these extraneous factors.” When it issued its latest guidance for schools, the CDC’s best attempt at a more rigorous analysis was a large study of Georgia schools published in May, which found no statistically significant evidence that requiring students to wear masks reduced infection rates, even before vaccines were widely available.

In a preprint study posted the same month, Brown University economist Emily Oster and four other researchers analyzed COVID-19 data from Florida, New York, and Massachusetts for the 2020–21 school year. “We do not find any correlations with mask mandates,” they reported. But they noted that “all rates [were] lower in the spring, after teacher vaccination [was] underway.”
 
Norway Official: COVID-19 Can Now Be Compared to the Flu as Country Removes Pandemic Restrictions

Norway will end all COVID-19-related restrictions starting Saturday, Sept. 25, the government announced, joining a growing list of countries and states that have removed pandemic curbs.

SWEDEN TOO!

Nearby Sweden earlier this month announced it will remove most of its COVID-19 restrictions.

An announcement from the Swedish government on Sept. 7 said that restrictions on public venues such as restaurants, theaters, and stadiums will be removed on Sept. 29.
 
“Thousands more people than usual are dying … but it’s not from Covid” – so reads the headline of a recent report by the Telegraph’s Science Editor Sarah Knapton. A slice:

Now, 18 months of delayed treatments may be starting to take their toll. Dr Charlotte Summers, an intensive care consultant from Addenbrookes Hospital, Cambridge, told a Royal Society of Medicine (RSM) event this week that patients were arriving at A&E with serious conditions that had worsened during the pandemic.

“There is an increase in non-Covid emergencies that are arriving at the front doors of hospitals from all the delays the pandemic has created already. Things like people presenting later with tumours, and therefore having bowel perforations and aneurysms and lots of other things that were delayed,” she said.

(DBx: But according to the ethical standard that has taken hold since March 2020, these non-Covid deaths are much less worrisome than are Covid deaths. The reason, as we are all now supposed to understand, is that the absolutely worst fate that can befall a human being – a fate incomparably worse than any other – is coming into contact with SARS-CoV-2. Covid and Covid deaths, you see, differ categorically from all other of life’s risks.)
 
Dan McLaughlin defends Florida governor Ron DeSantis on the question of quarantining school children. A slice:

He’s right. As he noted, like many of the precautions taken at the beginning of the pandemic, making kids stay home from school if they were merely exposed to someone else was a common-sense response to an unknown, fast-moving virus, but one that was not actually based on scientific study. That’s fine as an initial precautionary response, but it’s not April 2020 anymore, and it is high time we stopped pretending that it is. We have inflicted enough on a whole generation of children already. European schools have not taken precisely the same approach as Florida, but they, too, have long emphasized keeping as many healthy kids in school as possible, and have not had much in the way of outbreaks as a result.
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Michael Brendan Dougherty is rightly critical of “the overexposed Anthony Fauci.” A slice:

The one criticism allowed to slip through is a reference to his initial flip-flop on masks. But, even more recently, Dr. Fauci seems to be slipping up more and more. A few weeks ago, he was asked to comment on the video footage of packed southern college football stadiums. “I don’t think it’s smart,” he said. And yet, despite the dawn of football season and the southern states being uninterested in reimposing mask mandates, the Delta wave is collapsing in them. Fauci can read a chart like anyone else and has surely figured out that non-pharmaceutical interventions such as mask mandates make no substantive difference in the seasonal and regional waves of COVID. Surely he’s also noticed that every time someone predicts imminent doom from an outdoor gathering — especially one as unappealing to progressives as the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally — nothing much happens. The expected revenge of cruel COVID on outdoor conservatives never comes. Then again, maybe this is just a case of knowing which battles to fight.
 
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