Vaccine

Working from the beach today. I have never and I mean never seen so many cargo shipping containers lined up like big train in the ocean. I could swim out to one its so freaking close. WTF is Long Beach & San Pedro ports up to? Anyone with intel?
 
Working from the beach today. I have never and I mean never seen so many cargo shipping containers lined up like big train in the ocean. I could swim out to one its so freaking close. WTF is Long Beach & San Pedro ports up to? Anyone with intel?
Yes….has ZERO to do with the subject on this thread
 
Working from the beach today. I have never and I mean never seen so many cargo shipping containers lined up like big train in the ocean. I could swim out to one its so freaking close. WTF is Long Beach & San Pedro ports up to? Anyone with intel?

It's basically a backed up traffic jam that resulted from backorders now coming in, a shortage of workers at the docks, a shortage of workers on the trucks, quarantine requirements at the ports, and the uptick in people ordering goods instead of services during the pandemic. It's becoming a major problem.

The other thing which isn't very well known is that parts for trucks are becoming increasingly hard to come by (I had the experience the other day when my Prius battery died and I had to wait 2 days and pay for one to be flown in from Arizona). If the parts situation isn't remedied soon we're going to have a major trucking shortage too. The supply chain is holding on by a very tenuous string right now and another major event could send it tumbling.

The clerk at the pharmacy and I joked the other day: "I never thought growing up that I would actually live in something resembling the Soviet Union".

 
We decided years ago that "herd immunity" was not good enough for smallpox, polio, rabies, etc. Thus the development and widespread adoption of vaccines

I think you may have not read my post if this was your response.

The other ‘How we get to heard immunity’ part that is important involves the political leviathan.

I don’t think, when past fear of barbarians at the gate (Covid 19… or just facing mortality without religion) that society is ready for a new wave of Enlightened ‘science based’ Despotism.
 
In fairness, it actually is pandemic (and vaccine mandate) related....but this "vaccine" thread has gone all over the place including dead philosophers and the tyranny of science.
The cause has nothing to do with the Vaccine. Initiated by the impact of Covid shut downs, exasperated by business shut downs and trade imbalances. Just wait till The 1000% increase in freight costs hits your retail floor!
 
I see science as way too fragile a human construct for the role you are ascribing to it. It's dawned on some set of actors our there that the output of science doesn't have to argued for or against, just presented as meme. You can let the graph = this, or you can let the graph = that. Which ever way you want it to go. And science can't do jack shit about it because then it simply becomes another player in the game that's being created. the forces exploring how to use those levers, how to generate divisive cognitive dissonance within our new extended collective conciousness on the internet are the new barbarians at the gate as i see it. turning rationality against itself.

I absolutely don’t believe that science is fit for that role. Science is predicated upon questioning the natural order and our understanding of it. Can’t be an absolute authoritarian when questioning, only when believing.

Epistemology of the internet consciousness is an interesting thought… but I’ll stick with the laypersons explanation of Calvin Ball for now.
 
The cause has nothing to do with the Vaccine. Initiated by the impact of Covid shut downs, exasperated by business shut downs and trade imbalances. Just wait till The 1000% increase in freight costs hits your retail floor!

Agree but this thread is pretty much gone off topic. Masks, trolls, Newsom, science authoritarianism, and dead philosophers have little to do with vaccines directly either.

Truck supply parts are very scarce right now. We lose the trucks and it's really going to tumble down. Only 1 major more shock event (like vaccinating truck drivers to cross state lines) and the entire thing will collapse like a house of cards.
 
Its all one big scam with a plan. My gosh. These are monsters and because folks like me told them to F off, no jabber doo for this arm, their going to make us all pay ((blame me for being born)) cause more shit to roll into all of our faces and cause food shortage. Go get that TP losers. I tried to warn you guys.....
 
You know what else would be interesting? A Venn diagram of those that supported the big Russian Collusion lie and masking children.

Actually, I don't give a shit about either. I'm not really as interested as you are with throwing crap against the wall to see what sticks.
Trolls, troll, @watfly. To expect anything different is folly.
 
The cause has nothing to do with the Vaccine. Initiated by the impact of Covid shut downs, exasperated by business shut downs and trade imbalances. Just wait till The 1000% increase in freight costs hits your retail floor!
Do you doubt that covid itself was capable of causing supply disruptions?

Seems we had a choice between disruptions caused by shutdowns, or disruptions caused by covid. You can argue which would have been worse, but I don’t see any argument that “no disruptions” was even an option.
 
One reason I ask about the ugly containers from only God knows where is how theur hurting my pal Rick the Realtor. This guy sells only 7 figures or higher homes in south oc. He told me one of his prospective buyers is not liking the ships out at sea. Its like those oil rigs. Dude says price has to come down because of the eye sore. Does anyone know when the ports of LA will get back to work?
 
If you got your pediatric COVID news from New York Times science and public health correspondent Apoorva Mandavilli, you might be under the mistaken impression that (as Mandavilla asserted Monday) “the reopening of schools has fueled the [recent] surge,” and that “children are as likely as adults to transmit the virus to others, and more likely to do so than adults older than 60.”

Neither of these claims are supported by the evidence.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the rise in U.S. COVID hospitalizations began on June 28 (when the rate was at 0.56 per 100,000 residents), or precisely when most schools were closed for the summer. The rate then steadily climbed to 3.73 per 100,000 on August 27, at which point three-quarters of K-12 schools had flung open their doors. Now that the remaining 25 percent of schools have started the 2021-22 school year, hospitalizations are steadily sinking, down to 2.94/100,000.

Mandavilli’s shoddy article, dissected at hyperlinked length in this Twitter thread, deployed such pediatric scaremongering in the service of adding outside pressure to the Food and Drug Administration process of approving under-12 vaccinations. But a more accurate depiction of COVID and schools could be used to fix a policy error that’s negatively affecting families right now: excessive school quarantine policies.
 
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