Errrr....weren't you the one that raised the cartoon initially? (apologies if I misremembered). But I was actually complimenting you for a change there....it was a good one and led to a good discussion. I only recognized how apropos it was when dad (quite brilliantly actually) made his remark. You just don't like it that you come off as bad in your own cartoon.
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Errrr....weren't you the one that raised the cartoon initially? (apologies if I misremembered). But I was actually complimenting you for a change there....it was a good one and led to a good discussion. I only recognized how apropos it was when dad (quite brilliantly actually) made his remark. You just don't like it that you come off as bad in your own cartoon.
Bruddah IZ
DA
You're babbling.
Given Australia, I actually worry about that. And freedoms are taken gradually, bit by bit, til you realize that they are gone. Society may not be ready for it...the question though is whether we still get one anyways.
After all climate change is "an emergency" too......
Texas Lt. Gov. Patrick's False Claim About Unvaccinated Black People - FactCheck.org
The majority of United States residents who have not been vaccinated against COVID-19 are white, according to available state data and survey research. That contradicts Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick's claim that, "in most states," Black residents are "the biggest group" of unvaccinated people.
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EvilGoalie 21
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I agree. I believe collective action has a lot of power as well. The tricky part lies in doing it when it actually matters.
Put another way, my point is much of what we call logic is really a reflection of values. If say natural order, then logical conclusion is limit ICU bed space for the unvaxxed. Why? Well, guess what, sometimes that small risk applies to you. They made their choice, and a poor one. That's logical, simply a rational apportioning of limiting resources based on choice. But it's a value statement. Others would say, if natural order, then logical conclusion is just let it roll. Why? Because it's too damaging for everybody to take a hit for such a small risk. The collateral damage is simply not worth it. That's also a value statement. We can logically try to make calculations about the world around us given certain assumptions and within certain parameters, although the more multi-faceted the assessment gets the trickier it becomes not to let values sneak in. But deciding what to do based on such assessments and saying this is a logically forcing course of action rather than an expression of values is maybe not possible for us, at least as I see it. Doesn't mean we can't act, doesn't mean paralyzed. Just means accept most of our decision making is based on metaphorical computation. And then going "why can't you see what' I'm saying".
Recent news events have shown that the Russian collusion story was not so much of a lie. You should try to keep up and adjust your meaningless taunts to at least reflect current reality.
The search would return as an addendum "but I will get the shot because Dr. Fauci approves of it".
We decided years ago that "herd immunity" was not good enough for smallpox, polio, rabies, etc. Thus the development and widespread adoption of vaccines
Desert Hound
DA
And guess what?
Teachers and other adults are not dropping like flies as a result of no masks.
If only we would look at data coming in from other parts of the world.
Desert Hound
DA
Those vaccines were tested for years before they came on the market as well. So not a good comparison to the covid vaccines which were developed a year or so ago.
You wandered off into philosophy about long-dead thinkers. No one bought that.
Did someone ask for an example of a political vaccine resistor?
The technology has advanced a long way since Jenner scratched people's arms with an infected needle to the situation today where we know the exact chemical/biological constituents of the vaccines and institute rigorous monitoring programs to detect any deleterious side-effects.
You may now return to your Newsmax discussion group.
a. I wasn't the one who first wandered in there.
b. I was responding to the wandering that it was quite clever.
c. You are just upset because your cartoon got turned on its head.
EvilGoalie 21
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I see science as way too fragile a human construct for the role you are ascribing to it. It's dawned on some set of actors our there that the output of science doesn't have to argued for or against, just presented as meme. You can let the graph = this, or you can let the graph = that. Which ever way you want it to go. And science can't do jack shit about it because then it simply becomes another player in the game that's being created. the forces exploring how to use those levers, how to generate divisive cognitive dissonance within our new extended collective conciousness on the internet are the new barbarians at the gate as i see it. turning rationality against itself.
Dr. Debozo, doing just what he is paid for, has already started removing sensible precautions such as quarantining children who have been exposed to those sick with the virus.
The cartoon was aimed at those who are purposefully ignorant. Those who took offense were, not to much surprise, the intended targets.
Look up "falsifiability" and get back to us.
Who took offense? You see, for your education, that's strawmanning (just got a small chuckle out of that). I myself thought it was clever.
You see this is you with your limited comprehension again....the cartoon does mean what you thought it meant, but it's also purposefully ironic....extending the analogy, in this case two purposefully ignorant cartoon characters talking about the purposefully ignorant.
Yep…same guy who said masks weren’t necessary, we should wear 2 masks, vaccine mandates shouldn’t be used and that Covid has killed more kids than the Flu……how do you think his flip flopping and misinformation impacts the general public’s decision making?
Opens popcorn…..waits for the change of subject and deflection.